Paxful - It is difficult to buy a gift card with a new account

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Quote from: tranthidung on July 19, 2020, 07:51:53 AM

Newbies have newbies problems and challenges on all platforms, on the forum and the same story on Paxful.

But I don't have any way to solve that problem, it takes me too much time and does not achieve anything, I take more than 3 days and more than 20 transactions, but I do not receive nothing

Quote from: tranthidung on July 19, 2020, 07:51:53 AM

You never should. Account owners can have shady things in the past before ownership is changed hands and belong to you. Feedback exchanges, artificial trades and so on.
In addition, Paxful has a feature to detect suspicious in IP changes geologically which can trigger account restrictions. You will get troubles with bought accounts.

I've seen that you guys release a new feedback system, but it doesn't help anything for newbies like me. It was really a difficulty that I could not overcome Cry

Quote from: tranthidung on July 19, 2020, 07:51:53 AM

All of them are expired trades. On Paxful, only the buyer can cancel a trade. The seller can not cancel a trade and they have 3 options:

Wait a trade to expire (after the setup period of their sell offers reach) if the buyer does not click on I have paid button
Ask buyer to cancel a trade (if buyer already click on that button but seller does not receive payment)
Open a dispute

Sources:

Yes, transactions are expired, they are still there, they are still watching, but they are not replying to my messages nor making transactions. They just stay there and wait for it to expire. There are dozens of guys like that, a bad experience!

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 14, 2020, 12:34:44 AM

I went to groups on Facebook and asked there, they said that accounts with 50 or more feedback will get more deals and be easier to trade. So new people will have a hard time here Roll Eyes

Do you have any suggestions for improving this?

Newbies have newbies problems and challenges on all platforms, on the forum and the same story on Paxful.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 16, 2020, 09:52:06 PM

All opened transactions are canceled by the seller or expired Roll Eyes

I was powerless against it Roll Eyes

All of them are expired trades. On Paxful, only the buyer can cancel a trade. The seller can not cancel a trade and they have 3 options:

Wait a trade to expire (after the setup period of their sell offers reach) if the buyer does not click on I have paid button
Ask buyer to cancel a trade (if buyer already click on that button but seller does not receive payment)
Open a dispute

Sources:

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 17, 2020, 08:51:53 AM

I can feel how much you will get annoyed when someone cancels your trade without saying anything after a long wait.Lets try Localbitcoins ans localcryptos these are other p2p trading platforms, in Localcryptos there is no KYC verification needed but not sure is there people who is selling amazon gift cards.

I was so frustrated with P2P platforms, I thought that I should start looking for a guy to be a partner on this forum, fixed a supply would reduce greatly the waiting time Grin

Of course most guys on this forum are scams and I have to be careful in every transaction Cheesy

I leave Paxful right now

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 16, 2020, 09:52:06 PM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 16, 2020, 10:26:24 AM

Maybe Bisq removed amazon gift card payments, because there is a thread in the bisq community about how to add amazon gift card payments.But currently it doesn't exists due to some issues in the payments so you have to go with high price.

Admittedly, Paxful is still the place where people sell gift cards at the most attractive prices, but it doesn't seem to be for me Roll Eyes

Let's see my trade history Tongue

All opened transactions are canceled by the seller or expired Roll Eyes

I was powerless against it Roll Eyes

I can feel how much you will get annoyed when someone cancels your trade without saying anything after a long wait.Lets try Localbitcoins ans localcryptos these are other p2p trading platforms, in Localcryptos there is no KYC verification needed but not sure is there people who is selling amazon gift cards.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 16, 2020, 10:26:24 AM

Maybe Bisq removed amazon gift card payments, because there is a thread in the bisq community about how to add amazon gift card payments.But currently it doesn't exists due to some issues in the payments so you have to go with high price.

Admittedly, Paxful is still the place where people sell gift cards at the most attractive prices, but it doesn't seem to be for me Roll Eyes

Let's see my trade history Tongue

All opened transactions are canceled by the seller or expired Roll Eyes

I was powerless against it Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 16, 2020, 02:06:23 AM

Are you sure? LeGaulois said they don't have Amazon gift cards, it seems he's right, how about it?

Maybe Bisq removed amazon gift card payments, because there is a thread in the bisq community about how to add amazon gift card payments.But currently it doesn't exists due to some issues in the payments so you have to go with high price.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 15, 2020, 10:35:54 AM

Bisq is completely decentralized unlike paxful and localbitcoins so they may have different criteria for amazon gift card purchases for new traders, myself never tried this but lot of reputed members has been suggesting Bisq as better alternative to paxful and LBC.

Are you sure? LeGaulois said they don't have Amazon gift cards, it seems he's right, how about it?

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 15, 2020, 01:12:41 PM

He was polite enough to say sorry.... Cheesy

Not sure if he's really polite, or if he just wants to continue to cheat me Roll Eyes

he marked the transaction as paid, even though he sent a bad card, he told me to wait and not open a dispute. He wants me to wait and he will send another, but feels insecure Roll Eyes

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 15, 2020, 01:12:41 PM

I even see an offer with a discount of 15% below the market and the sellers has thousands of trades
https://localcryptos.com/fr/offer/5Y1BHrDaLuT8ib5wuJtrSf/Vendre-BTC/Reyfollador/Carte-Cadeau

Paxful has a better discount, but I still haven't purchased any gift cards Roll Eyes

3 days have passed, I still buy, but no one sold to me, it seems the money in my hand is not worth Undecided

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 15, 2020, 10:09:29 AM

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Damn it Roll Eyes

I waited for him 8 hours to receive from him a gift card used, after all, he said "sorry" Undecided

Excuse me but => Cheesy

He was polite enough to say sorry.... Cheesy

That's the problem when you see a gift card with a discount. And bigger the discount more suspect it is.

Localcryptos may be an alternative for you? There is no verification needed there and looking at the offers I see a few with Amazon
https://localbitcoins.com/instant-bitcoins/?action=sell&amount=¤cy=EUR&country_code=FR&online_provider=OTHER&find-offers=Rechercher
https://localcryptos.com/fr/Bitcoin/United_States/Gift_card/Sell

I even see an offer with a discount of 15% below the market and the sellers has thousands of trades
https://localcryptos.com/fr/offer/5Y1BHrDaLuT8ib5wuJtrSf/Vendre-BTC/Reyfollador/Carte-Cadeau

As for the user suggesting Bisq, there is no Amazon gift cards option https://bisq.network/fr/faq/#supported-payment-methods

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 15, 2020, 10:09:29 AM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 15, 2020, 09:30:09 AM

Did you tried Bisq? where you may find someone without waiting that much longer.

You mean another 2P2 trading platform similar to Paxful? It looks new, it's strange to me Cheesy

Is it safe? Have you used it yet? I don't think I should risk a new trading platform. Maybe I should go back to Bitrefill or Coinbee to buy gift card for safe Cheesy

Damn it

I waited for him 8 hours to receive from him a gift card used, after all, he said "sorry" Undecided

Bisq is completely decentralized unlike paxful and localbitcoins so they may have different criteria for amazon gift card purchases for new traders, myself never tried this but lot of reputed members has been suggesting Bisq as better alternative to paxful and LBC.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 15, 2020, 09:30:09 AM

Did you tried Bisq? where you may find someone without waiting that much longer.

You mean another 2P2 trading platform similar to Paxful? It looks new, it's strange to me Cheesy

Is it safe? Have you used it yet? I don't think I should risk a new trading platform. Maybe I should go back to Bitrefill or Coinbee to buy gift card for safe Cheesy

Damn it

I waited for him 8 hours to receive from him a gift card used, after all, he said "sorry" Undecided

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 15, 2020, 09:02:01 AM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 15, 2020, 08:38:20 AM

You can create trading record by trading bitcoins for bank transfers which is more secured than high risk transfer like Gift cards and paypal but it will take time for sure until that you have to buy with less discounts or on other market place sections.

It's quite expensive to trade that way, I already have BTC here, I tried to buy some more BTC by bank transfer, but the BTC price when trading that way is quite high, it's expensive. I had 2 transactions like that, 2 positive responses, but it was not enough, I did not intend to waste money to do more.
A guy asked me to sell a gift card, but it has been 8 hours and he still doesn't have it to sell me Roll Eyes

Yes, you can't build your trade history in a day you may have to atleast 0.5BTC traded volume. Cheesy

Did you tried Bisq? where you may find someone without waiting that much longer.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 15, 2020, 08:38:20 AM

You can create trading record by trading bitcoins for bank transfers which is more secured than high risk transfer like Gift cards and paypal but it will take time for sure until that you have to buy with less discounts or on other market place sections.

It's quite expensive to trade that way, I already have BTC here, I tried to buy some more BTC by bank transfer, but the BTC price when trading that way is quite high, it's expensive. I had 2 transactions like that, 2 positive responses, but it was not enough, I did not intend to waste money to do more.
A guy asked me to sell a gift card, but it has been 8 hours and he still doesn't have it to sell me Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 14, 2020, 02:49:24 PM

It is also what I want to mention, my account is new and there are no trading volumes, which makes the offers available to me may be limited.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 14, 2020, 12:01:05 PM

@OP you may have to create trading record for you if you really wanted to make these kind of trades with no issues but now you have no choice other than go with low discount offers which is far better than buying a hacked paxful account. Cheesy

Do you have any suggestions? How to create a good trading record? I don't think that I should buy gift cards at a price too expensive for the market Roll Eyes

You can create trading record by trading bitcoins for bank transfers which is more secured than high risk transfer like Gift cards and paypal but it will take time for sure until that you have to buy with less discounts or on other market place sections.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 15, 2020, 04:04:54 AM

How big of a discount you're looking for? IIRC (haven't dealt with him for some time) sells them with 20% discount: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amazon-gift-card-balance-for-bitcoin-amazon-coins-playstation-xbox-1789747

I've contacted this guy before, he's not really a good choice, it's not a matter of prestige, it's about my needs and his ability is inappropriate. I need more than he can, it's not just about the discount, but also the quantity Cheesy

Maybe I'll come to your topic to ask a little Cheesy

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 14, 2020, 02:49:24 PM

Well, exactly, I came up with two guys, both came to a result, so I felt that I could not buy, maybe I should try again?

Yes, you should. Again, to ensure that you're not making a trade offer with people who are out of stock, just look at their trust profile and see if there is any recent feedbacks.

Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 14, 2020, 02:49:24 PM

Yes, I came here to buy amazon gift card, discount is good to use even though there are some risks around it, but I have a good and quality amazon account to use them, new accounts may be in danger, but old accounts are trusted.

How big of a discount you're looking for? IIRC (haven't dealt with him for some time) sells them with 20% discount: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amazon-gift-card-balance-for-bitcoin-amazon-coins-playstation-xbox-1789747

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Damned! It takes too much time and no one wants to trade with me Roll Eyes

A transaction takes at least 30 minutes to expire, while transactions take up to 1h 30' to expire. But I did not receive anything from them. All I have is waiting. I have opened a lot of trades since yesterday, with a lot of people, none of them answered me Roll Eyes

I even accepted the low discount Roll Eyes

I got bored waiting for the time, there was a guy who answered, he said there was only code, no image of card, I didn't agree and he let me wait 90 minutes to expire the trade

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Quote from: irfan_pak10 on July 14, 2020, 03:00:31 PM

Do we have paxful representative here? I would like them to visit my accusation here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/paxful-is-a-scam-1362884

I am not sure if they are represented here, but I am sure that there are some involve people here, a few weeks ago, I remember that they recruited staff to verify information for the Vietnamese community.

Quote from: irfan_pak10 on July 14, 2020, 03:00:31 PM

I would highly recommend not to use this shady website as they have many unresolved accusations here. I have seen many users complaining, as they have found many new ways to scam their customers and give shitty explanations.

Edit: Search paxful in scam accusation section you'll be amazed

I don't know how it really works, but the truth is that my local community has so many people working there, I rarely see them complaining. I have checked your topic and it is from many years ago, maybe they will be better now, or not Cheesy

Anyway, thanks for your sincere advice Kiss

I will be careful not to be fooled and need a bit of luck to not be chosen to cheat Grin

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Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 14, 2020, 12:34:44 AM

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Any discussion is welcome! Paxful representatives are good to read my mind Cheesy

Do we have paxful representative here? I would like them to visit my accusation here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/paxful-is-a-scam-1362884

I would highly recommend not to use this shady website as they have many unresolved accusations here. I have seen many users complaining, as they have found many new ways to scam their customers and give shitty explanations.

Edit: Search paxful in scam accusation section you'll be amazed

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 14, 2020, 11:15:50 AM

How did you come to that conclusion? Are they closing the trade offer once you initiate it? If so, that does not necessarily mean that the sellers don't trust you. It could simply mean that they're out of stock. To confirm that, you can check their trust profile and see if they made any recent transactions.

Well, exactly, I came up with two guys, both came to a result, so I felt that I could not buy, maybe I should try again?

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 14, 2020, 11:15:50 AM

From my experience, the cards with the highest discounts and liquidity are Amazon, Xbox, PSN, and Netflix so if you want to buy something else, you're probably better off with Coinsbee and Bitrefill.

I've used the site a while ago, and I don't remember having such difficulties. It was always easy, even though my account was both unverified and brand new. If anyone is taking the risk here, it's the buyer (you) since you don't know the source of these cards.

Yes, I came here to buy amazon gift card, discount is good to use even though there are some risks around it, but I have a good and quality amazon account to use them, new accounts may be in danger, but old accounts are trusted. But it seems that Paxful has policies to protect sellers, like what jrrsparkles says.

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 14, 2020, 11:15:50 AM

Don't, just don't. If someone sells you the account, he can easily claim it back using the I.D he used to verify the account.

Hmm, thanks for advices. I will try to use my account, it has been fully verified Cheesy

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 14, 2020, 12:01:05 PM

AFAIK, most traders on p2p sites uses certain minimum trading volume needed for any user for responding to high risky payment methods like gift card and this happens to eliminate scammers from responding to their ads but it doesn't necessarily means every new user is a scammer.

It is also what I want to mention, my account is new and there are no trading volumes, which makes the offers available to me may be limited.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on July 14, 2020, 12:01:05 PM

@OP you may have to create trading record for you if you really wanted to make these kind of trades with no issues but now you have no choice other than go with low discount offers which is far better than buying a hacked paxful account. Cheesy

Do you have any suggestions? How to create a good trading record? I don't think that I should buy gift cards at a price too expensive for the market Roll Eyes

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 14, 2020, 11:15:50 AM

Quote from: ChuckBuck on July 14, 2020, 12:34:44 AM

but the problem was that it was too hard for me to start a transaction with somebody, nobody seemed to trust a new account.

How did you come to that conclusion? Are they closing the trade offer once you initiate it? If so, that does not necessarily mean that the sellers don't trust you. It could simply mean that they're out of stock. To confirm that, you can check their trust profile and see if they made any recent transactions.

AFAIK, most traders on p2p sites uses certain minimum trading volume needed for any user for responding to high risky payment methods like gift card and this happens to eliminate scammers from responding to their ads but it doesn't necessarily means every new user is a scammer.

@OP you may have to create trading record for you if you really wanted to make these kind of trades with no issues but now you have no choice other than go with low discount offers which is far better than buying a hacked paxful account. Cheesy

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