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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.


Bitcoin also serve as a medium of payment so there nothing new in using it to pay for house rent, perhaps the tenant might have exchanged or converted all his fiat to Bitcoin while adopting it solely as a medium of exchange for all transactions, I understand your point of view with regards to pump in price of Bitcoin would earn more profit for the hodler that is adoption of Bitcoin as a store of value, however as the tenant earn more fiat through salaries, businesses and other related source of income of course it can also be converted or exchange to Bitcoin and hodl in the wallet continually as a store of value.
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.


I bet you are investing in bitcoin but you have never read the bitcoin's whitepaper. If you learn about the history of bitcoin and know why Saotoshi created it, you will not say these words. Basically bitcoin is a peer-to-peer currency but today it is being used by us as a speculative tool to make profits. But that doesn't take away from its P2P currency feature so there's nothing wrong with someone using it for payments instead of just speculating for profit like you. Bitcoin can be a currency or an asset, it all depends on each person's intended use, so there is nothing wrong with using bitcoin to pay for a house.
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I guess you only think of bitcoin as an investment and would rather hold it than use it as a means of exchange

I personally do not think that it is a bad idea I think this is a step forward to adapting bitcoin as the mainstream currency let us say this person bought bitcoin at a lower price and now that it has increased, he was able to pay the appropriate amount of bitcoin for his rent so most likely he had  a little money but was able to pay rent

I prefer also to hold than use it as a means of payment because using it as a means of payment will only favor those that are receiving b because they will want to hold and whenever it is increasing then they will be profit made on it so, in that case, I will rather keep and sped fait that spends my investment because that is how I see it just imagine after spending your bitcoin and the price that goes up how will you feel the only time I can spend my bitcoin is when there is no alternative and the bank network is having issues and I would only spend little out of it. I can not pay my house rent with my Bitcoin it won't be possible at all. I would rather source for cash somewhere than go ahead and pay rent with it. just that you can tell people how to use their money or live their life the only thing you can do is to give advice and if they listen good for them.
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Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation.

Isn't the main reason why Bitcoin was created so it could be an alternative currency? A currency better than any other currency the world has ever seen? So what's the point of having a currency if it's a bad idea to use it and pay for stuff?
As long as the person accepts Bitcoin as a means of receiving payment then I don't see it as a mistake.

The investment side of Bitcoin is just a bonus and this shows how superior it is to other currencies.
People invest in dollars, pounds, Euro.
Some people buy dollars and pounds to hold, the difference is, that they can't nearly as much as someone who holds Bitcoin.
In my country several people buy dollars and hold them because of the rate at which our local currency devalues, so they make a profit out of that investment.
What forex traders do is similar to what Bitcoin or crypto traders do.
So Bitcoin is a currency, but a currency owned and controlled by no entity. So if you can make payment in Bitcoin you're only achieving the actual goal of Bitcoin's creation.
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.


Have you forgotten that bitcoin is a form of money? If we were talking about a person spending their bitcoin in something they do not need and that has no use at all, you may have a point that this is a bad idea, since they would be exchanging their bitcoin for nothing.

But using bitcoin to buy a house is a good move, everyone needs a place to live, and if you do not own a house at the moment buying one is without a doubt a need, now it is true you could have made more money by keeping that bitcoin on your wallet, but the whole point of accumulating wealth is to use it when you need it, and this is the perfect example of this.
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No doubt, paying rent with bitcoin would be one of the most beautiful thing if it is generally accepted by the client and his or her landlord, this in general would not only be seen as payment of bills but also a good way of increasing the knowledge of investments and how bitcoin works.


In most African countries today the use of fiat payment is still the top lead among other types of payments methods in anything involving the payment of bills.

In as much as payment with bitcoin is good, one should also take note that it is also subjected to rise and fail.
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That would be a good idea but the way the mind of some of us works, I don't think that we're going to like the idea of paying rent with bitcoin, now I'm not all the way a no go for this idea though, if it's a rent to own kind of deal and I'm getting a discount from using bitcoins to pay rent then I'm going to go for it because the investment right there is the property which you can probably sell more in the future when you finally own it.
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I guess you only think of bitcoin as an investment and would rather hold it than use it as a means of exchange

I personally do not think that it is a bad idea I think this is a step forward to adapting bitcoin as the mainstream currency let us say this person bought bitcoin at a lower price and now that it has increased, he was able to pay the appropriate amount of bitcoin for his rent so most likely he had  a little money but was able to pay rent
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years?
It's because Bitcoin is money and it should be spent and used. While it's a common use today as a store of value, everyone is free to use it whether for investments or just by simply buying those stuff such as material things and like this, paying rent. The original design of Bitcoin is to be used as a P2P electronic money but because of the feature that it has got for having finite supply, that makes it as a good store of value or asset.

Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.
That's a true comparison, the value of Bitcoin increases as it is a deflationary currency whilst fiat, it's always gonna be hit by the inflation. But on this matter, we even like to see more merchants, stores, companies, etc. to accept payment in Bitcoin. It is for the sake of adoption but because of the fees currently, one has to delay that if s/he can't afford to pay that fee for the transaction.
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Argentina have been one of the Bitcoin friendly country and this have shown in the kind of steps taken within the countries that conote the idea of Bitcoin friendliness in all areas, and for sure it has been a awesome experience for those living in that country since they are able to carry out different transaction and with a wider Bitcoin acceptance ratio, so if the real estate in Argentina have dive into this young growing cryptocurrency industry by adopting Bitcoin for payment for rent and lease, this is no longer a big news as last ng as Argentina is concerned.


We have more trending adoption aspects in Argentina, that is more attractive than real estate in terms of Bitcoin usage, some such as Bitcoin pos and gas stations already doing Bitcoin transaction.
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Bitcoin is not only an investment but also a currency. It has liquidity, meaning you can easily buy or sell it on the market, so it's not a problem if you pay with it - you can always compensate by buying more BTC with fiat. And in fact it's good to pay with BTC, because it gives BTC more value as it increases its adoption.
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.



Isn't that a good thing for bitcoin? Though it may look like it's a wrong decision for a holders/investors' point of view, but it is actually what bitcoin needs to be to increase it's adoption. If none are willing to pay using bitcoin, do you think more merchants starts allowing bitcoin payments? I'm pretty sure it is not a mistake, as the person paying is most probably aware of the fact that bitcoin is volatile, anytime it may increase or decrease it's value. This person could also afford in paying using his bitcoin and most of us aren't including you, so what made you think he lack's financial knowledge when he can afford spending it?
He's actually paying less fractions of bitcoin when the value is high, have we ever thought about that?
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.



He is spending bitcoins directly instead of converting them to fiat, which is good for him as his house owner accepts bitcoins as a payment method. How it would be a financial mistake? He is making money from bitcoins to meet their expenses and at the month's end, he is paying through bitcoins. Simple!
Exactly, I second you with that, the thing is some investors in bitcoin or bitcoin holders is being eaten by the phrase of "HODL" the thing is we are all not the same, maybe some afford to just their asset seated and waiting for a right time to sell without worrying about the daily expenses or money to buy the things they have, but we are all not the same, some will make sacrifices by either selling their bitcoin to make it for paying for the things they want and best example is the house, how could it be a mistake? We all have a reason why we do crypto currency things, maybe that person doesn't have any other means to pay rent for the house, lets not judge them.

At some point I agree with the OP if its for rent why the person in the article can't pay using fiat, maybe he doesn't have a stable income, just like him I would use my bitcoin asset if only I can buy a house at full price.
Spending up your coins on something that you can pay up with fiat? It is really just that too wasteful on doing so. You are really just that wasting up your opportunity on making profits or making money
on just simply holding cause you are really that actively spending up your coins on something which could really be done with fiat. If you are really that having that kind of adoption and recognition kind of concern
on which you are tending to make out some exposure then its your choice but if you are really that longing for making money then holding and accumulating Bitcoin would be the key.

Talking about being appropriate then its actually that there's no one could be able to tell on what you should gonna do with your coins that you have bought whether on Bitcoin or with some altcoins because
its your money that had been used and its none other business on what are the decisions that you would gonna do. So it would really be on your personal choice
whether you should really be that doing the other act or not basing up into your own interest and liking.
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.



He is spending bitcoins directly instead of converting them to fiat, which is good for him as his house owner accepts bitcoins as a payment method. How it would be a financial mistake? He is making money from bitcoins to meet their expenses and at the month's end, he is paying through bitcoins. Simple!
Exactly, I second you with that, the thing is some investors in bitcoin or bitcoin holders is being eaten by the phrase of "HODL" the thing is we are all not the same, maybe some afford to just their asset seated and waiting for a right time to sell without worrying about the daily expenses or money to buy the things they have, but we are all not the same, some will make sacrifices by either selling their bitcoin to make it for paying for the things they want and best example is the house, how could it be a mistake? We all have a reason why we do crypto currency things, maybe that person doesn't have any other means to pay rent for the house, lets not judge them.

At some point I agree with the OP if its for rent why the person in the article can't pay using fiat, maybe he doesn't have a stable income, just like him I would use my bitcoin asset if only I can buy a house at full price.
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Some people that are into bitcoin don’t really understand what bitcoin is all about, they don’t know the purpose why bitcoin was created, everyone thinks bitcoin was created just for people to invest and hold, if people are just holding bitcoins, then it’s not serving the purpose why it was created. Bitcoin is a currency which is suppose to be used for transactions, if you are paying for house rent, and your landlord decides to accept bitcoin and payment method, then if you are having bitcoin, you can pay with bitcoin, that’s the main reason why bitcoin was created, it should serve as alternative payment method to fiat currency, but if you keep on holding without spending, it’s not really making sense, am not asking you not to hold, but you should Have bitcoin which you will be using to make transactions.

But Bitcoin (and cryptos generally) suck at transactions Cheesy. Maybe that's why people don't use it that way.

But people love investing in it, so... here we are.

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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.

Some people that are into bitcoin don’t really understand what bitcoin is all about, they don’t know the purpose why bitcoin was created, everyone thinks bitcoin was created just for people to invest and hold, if people are just holding bitcoins, then it’s not serving the purpose why it was created. Bitcoin is a currency which is suppose to be used for transactions, if you are paying for house rent, and your landlord decides to accept bitcoin and payment method, then if you are having bitcoin, you can pay with bitcoin, that’s the main reason why bitcoin was created, it should serve as alternative payment method to fiat currency, but if you keep on holding without spending, it’s not really making sense, am not asking you not to hold, but you should Have bitcoin which you will be using to make transactions.
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.



He is spending bitcoins directly instead of converting them to fiat, which is good for him as his house owner accepts bitcoins as a payment method. How it would be a financial mistake? He is making money from bitcoins to meet their expenses and at the month's end, he is paying through bitcoins. Simple!

The way I interpreted that post was, "HODL!!!Cheesy

That is the "advice" I would give anybody who holds a financial instrument that I am invested in: hold everything and buy some more! Make my asset go up in value, damn you! Smiley
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Glancing through the article https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-rent-agreement-argentina-landlord-tenant one would conclude adoption is striving in Argentina. Paying for a house with bitcoin sounds to me a mistake or lack of financial knowledge. Bitcoin is better than Fiat. Bitcoin increases in value and fiat faces inflation. Why then would one spend Bitcoin instead of fiat on a house rent which may expire in few years? Accommodating the Bitcoin can birth the person more money to pay his next house rent. But fiat wouldn't add any interest in the bank. Moreover the house owner will not hold the Bitcoin.



He is spending bitcoins directly instead of converting them to fiat, which is good for him as his house owner accepts bitcoins as a payment method. How it would be a financial mistake? He is making money from bitcoins to meet their expenses and at the month's end, he is paying through bitcoins. Simple!
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I don't think spending Bitcoin anytime is a bad thing because it was not created for only investment purposes; it was created to serve as an alternative to fiat currency to make transactions so easy for people and for privacy. So what is wrong with spending Bitcoin anytime you feel like spending it?
 
Paying expenses with Bitcoin or fiat currency I see it as the same unless the transaction fees are high, because if you decide to spend 1 bitcoin, it is still going to be equal to fiat currency at the time you decide to spend it.
 
And by the way, if it was only Bitcoin that the person had at that period of time that he wanted to pay house rent, what do you want the person to do? He should not pay house rent, or what? Investing in Bitcoin is a great thing, and spending it is also not bad.
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Bitcoin is legal in Argentina. There is a current law that endorses the use of Bitcoin in legally binding contracts and it is now recognised by Argentine courts. This further entails that Bitcoin is recognised as a valid currency in official contracts. So this agreement between the landlord and tenant is backed by the law.  
Good why op killing himself over a thing that is legalized in argentina, though few moments after I made that post I went on to make research and I noticed it was legalized when a tenant is paying his rent with bitcoin that should be a thing of Joy at least we are now using BTC for its purpose.
The reason why I see op getting disturbed is for a reason that he was seeing bitcoin only on investment aspect of it, if that he took bitcoin priory to its creation and main purpose there isn't a  time op could have got this mindset to say the tenant wouldn't have paid his rent through bitcoin instead fiat.
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