Topic: Paymium (Bitcoin-Central/Instawallet) principals stole over a million dollars. (Read 2206 times)

I'm seeing hard figures, not percentages: http://www.societe.com/bilan/paymium/533264800201212311.html

PG,

Perhaps I am not understanding something....how did you get your bitcoins into instawallet? Did you transfer them from an exchange etc?

This would be the first place I would think to show account ownership based on how the account was funded (via BTC).

Sorry if I am not understanding this.

BTW perhaps we will meet up at another BTC conference and we can get a photo! That would be awesome! 

Hey, bud. I still feel bad for us not getting a photo together in LV.

After InstaWallet came back online, all three URL pages didn't have bitcoin wallet addresses on them. Eventually, the 1Jpp... wallet did appear after I submitted the claims, for that one was well documented on this forum, but immediately two claims were made against it, thus it could then be red-flagged, to be refunded, if ever, at a later date. Initially, davout denied the claim, but upon presenting the exact same info via email, I was reunited with those funds.

The other two I don't know the addresses because InstaWallet has been withholding that from me from day one. Without the addresses, I can't trace back, albeit that may be a daunting task, for even with the last transaction I preformed with the 1Jpp... wallet to a known address, InstaWallet somehow put layers of transactions between the two that today I've yet to unravel after spending several hours on that task alone.

The only thing that comes to mind is that davout, acting as CTO of InstaWallet, created or borrowed a clone from Mark Karpeles some sort of tumbling software. I have been able to find a myriad transactions going in and out of Bitcoin-Central, then in and out of davout's main bitcoin wallet address, of which 1,384.35491053 BTC can now be seen here: https://blockchain.info/address/16d1yGrEDqSY1xhCnAUWrkahGY2mkWdAYk.

Prior to the "hack", David didn't have much, yet, after the "hack", he ends up with more than what I once had. Ironically, he knew which three wallets I had prior to the "hack" by simply looking at the IP address of whence the wallet on record came from. Once he had that, he announced to the community that we was going to be outta pocket, of which time frame the "hack" occurred on April 1, 2013, and not returning to the forum till the 18th, leaving Boussac to create, than maintain the InstaWallet claims thread, of which they have now conveniently closed, in spite of one of their non-customers (they honestly believe that InstaWallet didn't have any), me, still having two major claims with them, having expressed such since the onset of said claims thread.

To date, the independent auditor has yet to be named. Probably because there fuckin' wasn't one. Perhaps, in a year or two, Boussac will link the name in the French section of this forum like he did with the police report after it was asked for close to a hundred times in spite of him having an official InstaWallet claims thread open.

Again, anybody having funds in the Bitcoin-Central exchange best get them out ASAP, for the clock is tickin' on that son of a bitch going down. I'm pretty sure that Gilitt is still waiting for some return on their $400K VC investment, of which they witnessed three other entities built then crashed and burned. Paymium only has one entity left - Bitcoin-Central - and that ain't looking too hot from what I've been hearing through the grapevine.

Hey PG,

I just read the majority of the instawallet claims thread where you requested your 1132 BTC from 3 different addresses.

Did you not keep a copy of the transaction where you sent 1000 BTC to the large address?

If not, was it funded from an exchange? Surely there was a deposit address on instawallet.

I'm neutral in all of this but I can't help that bousac (or whatever) and davout have treated users with such disrespect by not giving information on the auditing party as well as the police report # etc.

Shame.

I'll do what I can to post on this topic and create my own threads should I have enough to work with concerning the matter.

You know me I love calling out scammers and pussies who can't help but be lazy and steal from others.

 

Smoothie

So, what you're saying is that the following depicting Paymium's financials is inaccurate?

http://www.societe.com/bilan/paymium/533264800201212311.html

While perusing the above, bear in mind that Paymium received a $400,000 USD VC from Gilitt as seen below and here: https://angel.co/paymium

Hello!

Im still missing my 15 BTC as well!

After posting the following post on the 18th of April:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6278648

I "Suddenly" received this mail:

From: Bitcoin Central support <[email protected]>
Date: 18 april 2014 18:02:26 CEST
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bitcoin retrieval from instawallet
Greetings NLCOINER,



Following your recent posts on BitcoinTalk forum :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6279086
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-central-discussion-questions-reponses-109271                THIS POST WAS DELETED BY SOMEBODY MODERATING THE FRENCH BOARD
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6278648


Our support team has review your case and is happy to report that we can proceed with a BTC refund if you agree with our terms.
Given that MTGOX went down since last september, we realize that a cryptographic proof may be difficult to obtain if you used mtgox to fund the wallets.

Therefore we agree to send a 15 BTC refund if these two points are met :
•   You can provide a high quality, uncropped scan of a valid state-issued ID.
•   You can provide the same bitcoin refund address that you mentionned earlier for confirmation.


We would also like to kindly ask you to take down these hurtful words, abject and unfounded accusations you made about our company and its staff.
As you may know, we will soon provide a cryptographically verifiable proof of reserves audit (also known as "solvency report").




Have a nice evening.

Best regards,

Support team
Bitcoin Central by Paymium



DAVID FRANCOIS! How come after having tried to get them back for almost a year, and after having lots of messages from you (I HAVE PRINTSCREENS AND PROOF) stating that I will not get them back, I suddenly receive this mail stating my case was REVIEWED once more, and NOW I get them back..

One of the PMs you sent me stated:

"available funds being less than the total uninsured liability"

How about those funds we found tying to your wallet?


I also find it very interesting that I need to send you guys (see above)

"You can provide a high quality, uncropped scan of a valid state-issued ID"  

What do you need this for?? As far as I know, there is no reason for you to need my ID, so please explain! I don't mind showing my true identity, but there is no reason that I can think of, apart from that YOU want to know who I am!


ps. In case I'm "suddenly" BANNED! All I did was inform the Bitcoin Community, and especially the FRENCH, but unfortunately DAVOUT is the Moderator there so he can just DELETE whatever he likes!

He sent me this in PM after deleting all the posts I made in the French Section!


Funny, what is unrelated??? Are you hinting to you being THIEVES??? Because it doesn't really seem unrelated to me, as there are still many people who are at this time doing business with

BITCOIN-CENTRAL.NET,

which you guys run!

When is this site going to get HACKED???

GIVE ME BACK MY 15 BTC!!!

KARMA IS GONNA GET YOU!!!!!!

standby! game of thrones / bobs burgers is finsihed downloading..

i goto ask though.. if they took ~$450k.. why the hell arent you in france or wherever trying to get it back ?

Sure! What terms would be favorable to you for said bounty?

sweet mother of jesus -  you lost 1132 btc to them... beyond words... can't believe your so calm..
1132.. and your just 1 out of god knows how many people...

its good to see theymos obviously cares about it.... again he shows disgusting scumbag behaviour.. he doesn't relies one day he will be accountable for the fact the forum is assisting in so many scams in one way or another. I doubt he even talks to a lawyer, he probably believes he doesn't need to.. or he's so smart why bother.. i mean i had to lay it out in terms a 3rd yr old would unerstand about the heartbleed exploit and why people NEED to change their usernames..

any bountry if someone is able to get them to cough them up for ya ?  <--- i'm serious...

Talk to some lawyers who got contacts with prosecutors in state where those folks live Or post a bounty here for the successful legal pursuit

Here's an interesting tx that davout made during the time InstaWallets non-customers were demanding to know where he was at, but nary a reply was made my Boussac, et al.

https://blockchain.info/tx/ac67303cd1f0c650df27b957809bff13bdd18588af5a65e038cf4f769373f783


I assume David François (davout - Staff of BitcoinTalk) was making sure that he still had access to his precious while siphoning off my 1,132 BTC, not to mention the other 20K micro IW wallets that will probably never be reunited with their original owners.

Correction: I erred and claimed it was Satoshi Dice, when in reality it was Just-Dice.com as seen in this tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/5f801a8dc14473a9e41c1ef455fe0b14917dd4f5ac5e76a1beb112f0f00bf63b

At this speaking, I wish to further state that Satoshi Dice nor Just-Dice.com seem to be involved in this fiasco, especially Satoshi Dice. I will be looking into Just-Dice though to see if there is any connection, hoping to not find any, for I have no qualms with them, again at this penning.

~Bruno Kucinskas

Looks like Boussac locked the InstaWallet claim thread. The following is his last post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6428319


The guess the following is true then: http://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/2014/04/13/bitcoin-central-net-insolvent-the-french-bitcoin-association-and-the-relation-to-mtgox/


Meanwhile, davout still have my 1,132 BTC stored in one of his Bitcoin wallets: https://blockchain.info/address/16d1yGrEDqSY1xhCnAUWrkahGY2mkWdAYk

Davout knew exactly how many bitcoins I had prior to the "hack", thus devising a scheme to take control of them while he goes missing for ~4 weeks since he's a seasoned CTO.

InstaWallet was an excellent mixing service for those who used it for such. One was able to send bitcoins to themselves, and somehow IW was able to put several addresses between the two transactions automatically, at the same time your IW wallet would always show 0 BTC, with sometimes that being the case also on blockchain.info, as I once pointed out to davout but he explained it off with some mumble-jumble, of which was over my head but trusted him because he was staff on this here forum. I highly praised InstaWallet online and off in RL. For a reward, they steal a million dollars from me, stick it up my ass sans lotions, then put me on their ignore lists having gotten their rocks off, leaving me with a sore ass and lesser bitcoins.

Sad to say, when I get done, everybody and anybody associated with Paymium WILL have taint following them for a long motherfuckin' time. AND THAT'S A FUCKIN' PROMISE.

~Bruno Kucinskas

oh i read the other thread.. you actually lost money to these clowns ?
I thought you were just trying to expose and help other ppl..

hmm i would be ramapnt if anyone got my monies... like beyond rampant.. a new level... super-rampant infact.
good luck getting them back Hopefully davout and co will be in shackles soon.

Ironic, how I spent countless hours exposing scammers, having not taken a single satoshi from a soul, yet am victim to staff on this forum.

Hell, there's people right here in Sandwich, IL, believing that I'm behind the Bitcoin (proper) scam, in spite of me proving, and them able to read on this forum, otherwise.

why you bothering ?
davout and co have been given the green light by theymos to do what ever they like... wouldn't be surprised if this thread mysteriously vanishes.

on a serious note.. do you think they offer theymos money to let them screw over the users here ? or do you rekon staff/mods get a free pass to doing that when they become staff ? Diablo was able to do the same thing, all tho his scam wasnt as blatant...

Even though Richard Caetano echoed what Boussac and davout have stated earlier about large wallets not being paid out till after all wallets under 50 BTC are paid first, dozens of wallets having several hundred bitcoins or more were indeed paid out, some of which are still idle in either the original payout wallet or some other after being moved only once directly after their return.

Reserved for full doxxing of all principles and named personnel of Paymium, along with all investors and their principles.

Reserved for important updates.