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Quote from: Lucius on April 14, 2023, 05:38:17 AM

It would be best if the service were available globally, but the EU is still a huge market with just under 500 million people and one of the richest areas in the world. In the future, there is always the possibility that the service will expand outside the EU. As for Russia, it is not only a matter of a personal decisions, but also the fact that most of their banks are on the blacklist, and anyone who would try to avoid these sanctions by offering this kind of service would only create additional problems for himself.

Not everything is so clear. For now, we are a small company and will scale up and solve problems as they come.
Therefore, at the moment we are focusing on those things that can give impetus to our development, I hope you understand.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on April 16, 2023, 10:44:37 AM

1. Your privacy policy states that you collect the details of fiat payment methods, as well as receiving bitcoin addresses. How long do you store this data for?
2. Your privacy policy states you share email addresses with MailerLite for the purposes of marketing. Why can't users opt out of this?

3. I assume this is a 2-of-2 multi-sig. Is this correct? Can you share your additional script on top of the standard multi-sig script which allows you to spend these coins with a single private key after 4,320 blocks?

1. If you allow me, I will refer to this post.

2. This is an opt in into the newsletter. We now use sendinblue instead of mailer lite (t&c and privacy policy are super old tbh).

3. Our first test on mainnet (Under details you can find this part).

Code:

https://mempool.space/tx/372c43afa792337b669ae38349c64b4fe7f20dcacf09bf401a10655c9222feb5

Quote from: RickDeckard on April 18, 2023, 02:16:07 PM

Could you eventually share, if possible, a roadmap of things/features to come?

We are working on 2 weeks sprint basis. Perhaps we can make that available on GitHub as well!

What’s coming in the next release (Monday):

Code:

- account recovery on same device
- fixing the dispute outcomes

Then in 2 more weeks (sprint 11):

Code:

- fixing design to adapt to small screen
- change in account architecture: separating wallet and account

Following sprints:

Code:

- import p2p reputations from other platforms
- review of trading limit mechanism
- review of sorting matches with filters
- let seller edit premium/payment method after the offer is published
- create multiple sell offers by finding one escrow
- implement market stats for both buyer and seller
- implement full wallet functionally (this is when we plan to make the app open source too)

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Quote from: dkbit98 on April 14, 2023, 02:49:21 PM

What's up with the rumors you are going to release Peach app as open source software?
That would be great, if it happens.

I'm happy to tell you that it isn't a rumor - Peach Bitcoin twitter account actually tweeted[1][2] that same promise:

Quote from: Hispo on April 18, 2023, 09:45:06 AM

I just took a look a your web and I must say it is a delight to the eyes, I love the artistic approach you went for.
If you would like a suggestion from me: you should consider to add support to markets or BTC/FIAT pairs from countries where Bitcoin has a wide volume and increasing adoption. For example, Nigeria, Venezuela and Argentina. 🍑🍑🍑

I may be wrong on this assumption, but I would say that Peach Bitcoin is, for now, focusing only on the EU markets. They recently stated that they don't operate in Africa for now[3] and all of their offers regarding currency reflect their Europe focus. Take, for example, their US stance regarding expansion[4]:

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Peach is not available in the US market and don’t plan to be for now

While they are losing a great deal of customers of US (for example), I think that a steady and organic grow is always recommended when we are speaking of small entities starting out. EU has a great deal of users that they can target and once their product is more matured perhaps they'll revalue again their stance. Entering in the US means being (perhaps) even more regulated since they have different legislation applicable, but only time will tell I guess.

@Peach Bitcoin - Could you eventually share, if possible, a roadmap of things/features to come? Every time I check your Twitter page you've got raving reviews and it seems that the developers behind the product are great, so kudos for that!

[1]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1646840615781400577
[2]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1638643362260557824
[3]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1648306037571698689
[4]https://nitter.net/peachbitcoin/status/1634609225669439490

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I just took a look a your web and I must say it is a delight to the eyes, I love the artistic approach you went for.
If you would like a suggestion from me: you should consider to add support to markets or BTC/FIAT pairs from countries where Bitcoin has a wide volume and increasing adoption. For example, Nigeria, Venezuela and Argentina. 🍑🍑🍑

Those are countries where the demand for P2P will continue to grow through time.

If you ever need someone to translate English to Spanish, send me a PM. We may do business. Wink

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Quote from: RickDeckard on April 17, 2023, 05:31:15 PM

(I really believe that a large number of people don't mind their data being shared - especially the ones that instantly click on "Accept all cookies").

Of course, but if we are talking about apps and services specifically designed to allow non-KYC trading and preserving privacy, we shouldn't be happy with accepting that bare minimum.

Quote from: RickDeckard on April 17, 2023, 05:31:15 PM

In an effort to understand this stance with marketing e-mails, I believe that the main purpose of sharing early access users with MailerLite is to more easily distribute weekly newsletters to share what's being developed at the moment and keep in touch with the "early adopters" as a way to also help them promote their service.

Weekly updates and so forth could be on a landing screen on the app, which results in no need to share details with third parties.

Still, I suppose it is easily countered by just using a new email address.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on April 17, 2023, 02:20:03 AM

Either way, I see no reason they should be sharing my details with marketing agencies at all.

By default (and within the registration stage) they should list all the services that they work with and allow their users to choose which ones they are comfortable sharing data with (I really believe that a large number of people don't mind their data being shared - especially the ones that instantly click on "Accept all cookies"). In an effort to understand this stance with marketing e-mails, I believe that the main purpose of sharing early access users with MailerLite is to more easily distribute weekly newsletters to share what's being developed at the moment and keep in touch with the "early adopters" as a way to also help them promote their service. Still, I believe this action could also be presented as an option for the user since this is the only option that is left out (Zammad interaction will only be needed if we need to get in touch with their customer support it seems).

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Quote from: RickDeckard on April 16, 2023, 04:23:31 PM

I might have understood this wrong, but if you take a closer look at their privacy policy[1], on chapter 4.1 (Lawful basis for processing your information) there's this entry:

It says you can opt out of receiving emails, but not that you can opt out of your details being shared with their marketing agency.

Either way, I see no reason they should be sharing my details with marketing agencies at all.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on April 16, 2023, 04:17:52 PM

Quote from: blue Snow on April 13, 2023, 09:35:24 PM

try it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peachbitcoin.peach.mainnet

Link doesn't work

App is region locked on playstore. I'm guessing you were coming from an IP address outside Europe? I tested it with a few Europe IPs and it worked fine.

Quote from: JeromeTash on April 16, 2023, 04:17:52 PM

I tried installing the app on my PC via Windows subsystem for Android, but the option to install is greyed out as shown in the picture. Any suggestions?

Windows subsystem for Android has always worked for me when installing other APKs I want to use on PC. it's an emulator of sorts.

Were you using WSA pacman? if so, there's a redditor with a similar problem, perhaps you might find a fix, see: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/uqbpn0/install_option_is_greyed_out_in_wsa_pacman_any/

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I wasn't aware of this service, congratulations on launching it @Peach Bitcoin! Besides the fact that it is P2P, I also like the UI that you provide in your application, great design you've got there!

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on April 16, 2023, 10:44:37 AM

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2 - Your privacy policy states you share email addresses with MailerLite for the purposes of marketing. Why can't users opt out of this?
(...)

I might have understood this wrong, but if you take a closer look at their privacy policy[1], on chapter 4.1 (Lawful basis for processing your information) there's this entry:

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You will receive marketing messages from us if you have given us your consent to do so by signing up on the website.

To unsubscribe from marketing emails at any time, you can click the unsubscribe link that can be found at the bottom of any marketing email. You may also contact us to inform us if you do not wish to receive any marketing materials from us.

This message seems similar to the one that you're given regarding Google Firebase & Google Analytics:

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You can toggle sharing usage data on/off in Settings > About Peach > Diagnostics

However, Google Firebase & Google Analytics is clearly shown as (opt-in) - on the service providers section - but the entry related to MailerLite isn't. Perhaps this process happens automatically as soon as you register on the platform? Still, according to the previous quote, your data will only be shared if you choose to opt-in during the registration phase?

[1]https://peachbitcoin.com/privacy-policy/

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Make backing up of seed phrase mandatory when one is just creating an account by asking the user to confirm the seed phrase they have just written down.

Quote from: blue Snow on April 13, 2023, 09:35:24 PM

try it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peachbitcoin.peach.mainnet

Link doesn't work

I tried installing the app on my PC via Windows subsystem for Android, but the option to install is greyed out as shown in the picture. Any suggestions?

Windows subsystem for Android has always worked for me when installing other APKs I want to use on PC. it's an emulator of sorts.

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I spotted you a few months ago on https://kycnot.me/. Always a good thing to see more non-KYC and real peer to peer trading platforms popping up (not centralized exchanges advertising themselves as P2P). Hope you do well!

A few questions if you don't mind:

1 - Your privacy policy states that you collect the details of fiat payment methods, as well as receiving bitcoin addresses. How long do you store this data for?

2 - Your privacy policy states you share email addresses with MailerLite for the purposes of marketing. Why can't users opt out of this?

3 - Your FAQ says the following:

Quote from: https://peachbitcoin.com/faq/trading/

When making a sell offer, the seller sends the bitcoin to an address that is controlled by him and Peach: the bitcoin can only be moved from here, if he and Peach both sign off on it.
...
If the trade doesn't resolve normally, this address automatically comes into full control of Peach after roughly 30 days (to be precise: when 4320 bitcoin blocks have been mined).

I assume this is a 2-of-2 multi-sig. Is this correct? Can you share your additional script on top of the standard multi-sig script which allows you to spend these coins with a single private key after 4,320 blocks?

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Quote from: Peach Bitcoin on April 11, 2023, 10:34:05 AM

I would like to introduce you to Peach, a mobile application that directly connects buyers and sellers of BTC. Bitcoin is winning, we believe we are part of the good people who wanna win with Bitcoin, and we want Peach, whose aim is make stacking sats p2p the standard, to be known.

Hi Peach, nice to see you here, I am glad you joined Bitcointalk forum

Please tell me are you official representative or team member of Peach Bitcoin app?

I noticed your app before and last month I created my own discussion topic for Peach, so you can see can take a look there for any additional feedback:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-peachbitcoin-p2p-mobile-app-5444162

Quote from: Peach Bitcoin on April 13, 2023, 09:44:44 AM

So on iOS peach is in TestFlight. On google, peach is in the European countries store (anyone with android can download the apk).

What's up with the rumors you are going to release Peach app as open source software?
That would be great, if it happens.

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 13, 2023, 12:55:32 PM

Too bad that there are so many restrictions and that you are solely focused on the EU and nothing else. I also find it regretful that a huge nation like Russia is blacklisted. Bitcoin is a currency of everyone or no one, but that's your decision.

It would be best if the service were available globally, but the EU is still a huge market with just under 500 million people and one of the richest areas in the world. In the future, there is always the possibility that the service will expand outside the EU. As for Russia, it is not only a matter of a personal decisions, but also the fact that most of their banks are on the blacklist, and anyone who would try to avoid these sanctions by offering this kind of service would only create additional problems for himself.

Quote from: Pmalek on April 13, 2023, 12:55:32 PM

I tried searching for it manually and couldn't find it on my PC. I didn't try over the phone. "PeachBitcoin", "Peach Bitcoin", or simply "Peach" doesn't show me any good results. Can you post the link to the app so I can check?

@blue Snow gave the correct link, and via a smartphone, the result for the keyword "peach" puts the app somewhere between 4 and 6 places on the list of results, and although it was not the case yesterday, today when I search for "peach bitcoin" I get a direct link to the app.

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I can't open applications via download on android also in my phone. But, I can install it via download APK on Android.
I believe this is the play store problem.

Quote from: Pmalek on April 13, 2023, 12:55:32 PM

I tried searching for it manually and couldn't find it on my PC. I didn't try over the phone. "PeachBitcoin", "Peach Bitcoin", or simply "Peach" doesn't show me any good results. Can you post the link to the app so I can check?

try it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.peachbitcoin.peach.mainnet

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Quote from: Peach Bitcoin on April 13, 2023, 09:44:44 AM

- usd will never be added and Us IP are banned (regulations).
- russian ruble due to sanctions and regulation.
- the chinese yuan is of no interest to us, since we are focused on europe.

Too bad that there are so many restrictions and that you are solely focused on the EU and nothing else. I also find it regretful that a huge nation like Russia is blacklisted. Bitcoin is a currency of everyone or no one, but that's your decision.

Quote from: Lucius on April 13, 2023, 10:42:15 AM

As for Google Play, I found the app, so I don't know why some users have problems finding it.

I tried searching for it manually and couldn't find it on my PC. I didn't try over the phone. "PeachBitcoin", "Peach Bitcoin", or simply "Peach" doesn't show me any good results. Can you post the link to the app so I can check?

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 13, 2023, 07:34:27 AM

Forget about the Play Store. You can just download the app from the official website if you want to use it.
https://peachbitcoin.com/apk/

As for Google Play, I found the app, so I don't know why some users have problems finding it. Of course, the option is to install directly via APK, but such an installation requires the user to allow installations from unknown sources - it is much simpler (mostly and safer) to install the app directly from Google Play Store.

@Peach Bitcoin, my suggestion when it comes to payment options -> Aircash.

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Quote from: Zwei on April 12, 2023, 06:41:20 PM

Sheeeesh look that bitcoin 🍑

I tried to install the app using the "DOWNLOAD ON ANDROID" button, but it seems that either the URL is incorrect or the app has been removed from google play store?

So on iOS peach is in TestFlight. On google, peach is in the European countries store (anyone with android can download the apk).

Quote from: Pmalek on April 13, 2023, 08:14:33 AM

Still, we are missing the Czech koruna, the Bulgarian lev, and the Russian ruble. Not to mention the USD and other non-EU currencies.

- usd will never be added and Us IP are banned (regulations).
- russian ruble due to sanctions and regulation.
- the chinese yuan is of no interest to us, since we are focused on europe.

Quote from: Pmalek on April 13, 2023, 07:34:27 AM

Can you give us some more stats about how things are going so far?

We will soon share weekly peach market stats from our newsletter. 🍑

Nevertheless, we have ~800 open offers to buy open all the time (the average transaction amount is 250 CHF).
There is currently a demand for CHF 200,000 per day, although we only meet about CHF 10,000 per day!

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Quote from: Little Mouse on April 13, 2023, 07:54:47 AM

They only support these currencies as they mentioned on their website- https://peachbitcoin.com/how-it-works/#:~:text=Supported%20Currencies
EUR
GBP
CHF
SEK
DKK
NOK
PLN

Interesting. Those are all European fiat currencies. The pound, Swiss franc, Swedish/Danish/Norwegian Krona, and the Polish zloty.
Still, we are missing the Czech koruna, the Bulgarian lev, and the Russian ruble. Not to mention the USD and other non-EU currencies. I wonder if the service is even available in the US, Canada, China, Australia, etc.?

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Quote from: Pmalek on April 13, 2023, 07:34:27 AM

What about countries, currencies? Are there any geographical restrictions, and how many fiat currencies are supported?

They only support these currencies as they mentioned on their website- https://peachbitcoin.com/how-it-works/#:~:text=Supported%20Currencies
EUR
GBP
CHF
SEK
DKK
NOK
PLN

They have something called meetup for cash transactions though I haven't checked them by registering. I think they should consider adding more supported currencies so people around the world can easily trade. Only that will help them reaching more audience, otherwise, in such a competitive market, it will be very hard for them to continue the business.

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Forget about the Play Store. You can just download the app from the official website if you want to use it.
https://peachbitcoin.com/apk/

@Peach Bitcoin
I assume you are no longer in a beta stage? The first time I heard about the service, it was still being tested and not yet ready for massive adoption.
Can you give us some more stats about how things are going so far?

LeGaulois already mentioned 8.000 downloads and over 5.500 completed trades.
What about countries, currencies? Are there any geographical restrictions, and how many fiat currencies are supported?

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