People might sell they're merit points. - page 4.

jekzy

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Quote from: NoNetwork on January 30, 2018, 09:18:48 AM

Quote from: Photographer on January 29, 2018, 05:05:28 PM

Let's hope that the people who will try to cheat the system and trade merits will not get so ingenious that they cannot be discovered. Otherwise the whole system of merit would be fatally jeopardized.

Well they can try and cheat just to earn some merits, but we have to consider that they are only giving sMerits and the Merits are only given by those that are authorized to be Source Merits. Also have to consider that the system already provided tracks of the sMerits or Merits that are or being given, its easy for us to monitor if someone or some people are abusing the use the sMerits.

This concludes that the system is absolute and can not be jeopardized, to think that they've already made a defense mechanism to the system.

Maybe they track it if someone selling?or they can track the user activity if it's given or buyed.

NoNetwork

sr. member

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Quote from: Photographer on January 29, 2018, 05:05:28 PM

Let's hope that the people who will try to cheat the system and trade merits will not get so ingenious that they cannot be discovered. Otherwise the whole system of merit would be fatally jeopardized.

Well they can try and cheat just to earn some merits, but we have to consider that they are only giving sMerits and the Merits are only given by those that are authorized to be Source Merits. Also have to consider that the system already provided tracks of the sMerits or Merits that are or being given, its easy for us to monitor if someone or some people are abusing the use the sMerits.

This concludes that the system is absolute and can not be jeopardized, to think that they've already made a defense mechanism to the system.

Photographer

member

Activity: 157

Merit: 10

Let's hope that the people who will try to cheat the system and trade merits will not get so ingenious that they cannot be discovered. Otherwise the whole system of merit would be fatally jeopardized.

jekzy

newbie

Activity: 84

Merit: 0

Quote from: gilangIDR on January 29, 2018, 06:18:34 AM

Quote from: jekzy on January 26, 2018, 01:57:38 AM

Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

If they have quality of course it is not a problem. You can see the posts made and when it suits then it is inappropriate in the matter, but if there is something awkward may be worse suspect is the most rational. Merit provides many opportunities for some unqualified people, as you say that the main problem is selling and buying merit points.

It will be good if admin is removed the merit transfer? Then you can only got merit if your post is high-quality or useful?

jekzy

newbie

Activity: 84

Merit: 0

Quote from: eann014 on January 26, 2018, 07:48:19 AM

Quote from: blinchain on January 26, 2018, 02:03:03 AM

So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.

Yeah I think its not good, maybe those who are selling their merit should banned automatically or maybe have some warning. Buying merit is not good, merit should need to work hard before you can get it. Moderators should do something about this.

Maybe they can remove selling merit and only high quality post or usefull post can get merit.

gilangIDR

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Quote from: jekzy on January 26, 2018, 01:57:38 AM

Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

If they have quality of course it is not a problem. You can see the posts made and when it suits then it is inappropriate in the matter, but if there is something awkward may be worse suspect is the most rational. Merit provides many opportunities for some unqualified people, as you say that the main problem is selling and buying merit points.

greeklogos

full member

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Merit: 152

I have heard that local boards are full of suggestions about merit's selling or buying. I did not see it myself, but saw couple links in the similar thread about merit's abusing.

drngocct

newbie

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Merit: 0

Quote from: jekzy on January 26, 2018, 01:57:38 AM

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They can do that out of the forum. No one can trace evidence of their merit trades. However, suspicious donated merits can be discovered easily in the forum. There are admin, moderators, los of legendaries, heroes, who eagerly to report those bad behaviours. Then their accounts will be put under radar, high risks of banning (might be permanent ones).

Colorblind

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Quote from: nikenv2212 on January 27, 2018, 05:24:37 AM

Until now I do not understand what indicator is used to give value at "merit" point. does merit value affect the fast or not to go up rank? .. where can i get info on this merit?

It does not affect how fast you rank up. You just need to amass certain merit to "level up". 10 for Member, 100 for Full member etc. If you write genuine posts and be helpful all around, your merit will rise naturally. Trying to cheat with merit can be hard, since sendable merit occurs only when someone spends merit and you only get half of merit you received as a spendable merit, so farming with bots won't be a solution.

Photographer

member

Activity: 157

Merit: 10

Quote from: rh72 on January 26, 2018, 10:26:07 PM

Quote from: ShiroThe5th on January 26, 2018, 10:13:44 PM

For me merit points are okay. Because it will say if your post is really worth and has a value. I just recognize actually the merit earlier then explained to me. And now i know that merit can sell. If merit can sell is really unfair because many newbie will buy merit to rank up and it is unfair to the higher ranks that really hard to climb to their current rank. Unless the merit can sell in the same price of bitcoin Hahahaha

So not only bitcoin, but also we can sell-buy merit here, right? So, now we can get 2 reward: coin & merit.
Merit is ok because about quality post, but if merit can be sold it's not useful

It is forbidden to sell it. If you only had read a few posts before you would know that. This is really what I would call shitposting.

tbct_mt2

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Quote from: jekzy on January 28, 2018, 03:32:11 AM

Quote from: lady Royal on January 26, 2018, 02:48:34 AM

Merit added to the forum which is in my thinking is a great move by admin Theymos, but what about those guys who have multiple accounts already here they can easily create a new account and give merit to it? What about them and it will be unfair to that person who will just come here to learn and read the queries about Bitcoin will get no rank?

However, I am in the side of Merit. I like that idea personally.

Do u have any idea that they trace who's selling merit points?

There you go. Is it what you wanted to have?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-users-that-are-abusing-merit-system-2823221

Someone has made it for us.

liivii

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Merit: 100

Quote from: Angensupoet on January 28, 2018, 08:34:30 AM

does newbie need merits to rank up !? I don't think so, if I'm not wrong.
Why do they buy merits ? I guess they don't read the rules properly. and
who would sell merits ? Legends ? Hero ? Senior ? I don't understand if they would like to sell merits for some bugs. they have been here that long and still needs some bugs ? if they does, what have they done in that long time in this forum ?

I'm not fool enough to suspect those old members would sell Merits, I suspect multiple accounts do this.
Let's be positive, no need to be panic, coz all will be fine.. Grin

As a newbie you don't need merits to rank up but after you become a jr. member that's the time you need to have merits, 10 merits is good enough in order to become a member. And the higher your rank is the higher smerits you'll have. And I don't think an old and valued high ranked members would sell their smerits because their name and reputation are the ones that will be affected by that move. We all know that it's hard to get a higher rank, you need time and effort in order to have that so its a nonsense idea to destroy your name for just some money.

So lets just enjoy whatever happens and remove all the bad vibes because we all know that they implemented it for us to have a better life here in the forum.

Angensupoet

newbie

Activity: 3

Merit: 0

does newbie need merits to rank up !? I don't think so, if I'm not wrong.
Why do they buy merits ? I guess they don't read the rules properly. and
who would sell merits ? Legends ? Hero ? Senior ? I don't understand if they would like to sell merits for some bugs. they have been here that long and still needs some bugs ? if they does, what have they done in that long time in this forum ?

I'm not fool enough to suspect those old members would sell Merits, I suspect multiple accounts do this.
Let's be positive, no need to be panic, coz all will be fine.. Grin

blackberry862

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Solaris & ZeroCoin & txbit.io exchange ! Go !!!

Quote from: Oasisman on January 28, 2018, 06:20:59 AM

Quote from: jekzy on January 26, 2018, 01:57:38 AM

Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

Even if someone is selling or buying merit points, it could be easily identified, it could be very obvious and can easily be suspected when someone is collecting unbelievable number of merits with a mediocre and generic posts. And also the name or names (if there are multiple merit sources) who gives merit will suspiciously appears in every posts of the buyer.
Dont feel bad about the new system, these changes are implemented to restore the sense of interactivity in the community.

I don't see any problem with meriting for newbies if their posts are high-qualitied. That is original purpose of merit system, right? Merit system gives them motivation and might help them to be matured faster over time.

Oasisman

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Quote from: jekzy on January 26, 2018, 01:57:38 AM

Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

Even if someone is selling or buying merit points, it could be easily identified, it could be very obvious and can easily be suspected when someone is collecting unbelievable number of merits with a mediocre and generic posts. And also the name or names (if there are multiple merit sources) who gives merit will suspiciously appears in every posts of the buyer.
Dont feel bad about the new system, these changes are implemented to restore the sense of interactivity in the community.

jekzy

newbie

Activity: 84

Merit: 0

Quote from: lady Royal on January 26, 2018, 02:48:34 AM

Merit added to the forum which is in my thinking is a great move by admin Theymos, but what about those guys who have multiple accounts already here they can easily create a new account and give merit to it? What about them and it will be unfair to that person who will just come here to learn and read the queries about Bitcoin will get no rank?

However, I am in the side of Merit. I like that idea personally.

Do u have any idea that they trace who's selling merit points?

Argoo

sr. member

Activity: 2352

Merit: 245

Quote from: Lorin on January 27, 2018, 02:12:25 AM

Quote from: acell101 on January 26, 2018, 02:29:33 AM

Im newbie here and I saw merits.. I dont understand it.. I even research in google but I couldnt find any answer..

Hi you can read about merit here in this forum.theres a lot of information that you can read about merit.This is a new way to protect the forum against spamming..You need to get a merit points to be able to go on a higher rank.

I personally think that the new changes with the merit points practically made it impossible or at least very slow further advancement on the ranks. Nobody, until now, in practice, did not consider how long a full member might become senior. Previously, it took about four months of activity on the forum. Now for this you need to collect 150 points of merit. It is unlikely that any person in four months will gain 150 merits, even if he will write quality messages. That is, in fact, innovations slowed down the movement of ranks. I do not think that's right.
And about the sale of points of merit, then, most likely, they will vseravno be sold. because there will be no other way out in this forum. Earn them will be almost impossible. If they very actively check people for what they sent others points of merit, then people will be afraid to send them to others, so as not to cause suspicion. No, I do not like this innovation.

jekzy

newbie

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Quote from: SergiuHD on January 27, 2018, 05:27:46 AM

Quote from: jekzy on January 26, 2018, 01:57:38 AM

Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

I guess if peopole start selling it they are going to get some bad trust from Lauda. So, it's highly unlikely.

some people might scam other members here.

Ewox

sr. member

Activity: 812

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Or possibly, that newbie you saw that has merit points had been given a merit from its main account. That could be one of the reason why this merit system is implemented to catch these account farmers. But there are also newbies that contribute a lot of information too in this forum, and sometimes these newbies are investors or people that have been trading and just discovered this forum.

mysacrifice

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Quote from: edsnow2017 on January 27, 2018, 05:14:49 AM

Quote from: adjudicator on January 27, 2018, 05:07:43 AM

Quote from: jekzy on January 26, 2018, 01:57:38 AM

Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.

Yeah,I think that too. Newbies that have a new account has a merit in which some of then are selling their merit to earn money. I think if this will spread all over in this site, I think they must be banned or what so ever.

but i will be hard to find them right

It will be hard for sure but from another point there will probably be some random controls by admins to see how the system works (I hope). By that they can discover abusive people and kick them out of here.

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