Topic: People might sell they're merit points. - page 10. (Read 1923 times)
With all those shitty tokens around I am sure someone will create a merit coin. Algo POS. Legendary accounts can have masternodes. ICO will be soon.
So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.
I'm definitely coming from the opposite perspective here, as being here on these forums for a while and finally reaching a high ranking. However, I don't think this system is particularly unfair. Those who have merit will not be selling it; hero and legendary members at this point in time know better than to sell their merit. Even if it is being sold, it ends up being pretty obvious because all you need to do is look at the suspects posts and who merited them.
There's nothing about affording here; merit is not a form of money. It's (I guess) just another way of protecting the forum from spammers who are just trying to get into sig campaigns.
Very well said, The merit system is to protect this forum from those shit poster who are posting non sense and spreading shit comments like "Thank you" "Looking forward" "Good luck" and anything like this. The mods and other staffs with authority are working so hard to clean this forum from those people specially those farmers who uses multi accounts on the forum to farm from bounties.
Im newbie here and I saw merits.. I dont understand it.. I even research in google but I couldnt find any answer..
Merit is a new feature added to this forum. Before merit, in order to upgrade to the next rank you needed to reach some fixed amount of activity by posting on forum. You could earn a maximum of 14 activity points based on your posting within 2 weeks. Now you will need to have merit points along with activity points. Since you are newbie read: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newbies-read-before-posting-1689727
I don't see any problems with people selling their merit points. Because if you're gonna sell your merit points in exchange of money it would reflect your behavior in this forum. It's just the person's reference if he wants to get that money or have merit points.
This merit mechanism is still under test, and we should not make that explicit because it helps us to have more quality posts than just those that make no sense. Of course, we can also make suggestions, after all, this is only in the testing process.
Though how useful and long is your post but there is no assurance that people seeing these might give you any merits. No wonder that any member in these forum might sell nor they will buy merits for the seek of ranking up. I know it's not a good thing to happen and certainly MOD's are already aware on theses. Though this test may stick too long or it will change someday. So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.
Yeah I think its not good, maybe those who are selling their merit should banned automatically or maybe have some warning. Buying merit is not good, merit should need to work hard before you can get it. Moderators should do something about this. Work Hard? The system is not fair. I can guarantee that we will see situations where a mediocre post could get many merits than long useful posts. It only favor higher ranks because they will get less competitors on bounties.
Though it can be done if someone wants to do it, but I don't think anyone would do it as long as they are not willing to get their accounts neg tagged. Because you cannot hide it if you you are giving Merits to someone. If a person gives Merit to a post which is not constructive and deserving, it will be clear that it was decided before, and if a person can do constructive posts he doesn't need to buy any.
And, there is a one more thing that prevents selling Merits, it is that you cannot generate Merits out of nowhere. Before, people used to create a lot of accounts and used to increase their activity points to reach a certain rank and then sell those accounts. Now if you create an account, it has 0 Merits, and it cannot go higher than Jr. member without getting any Merits. And I doubt if someone creates accounts for the only purpose of selling them later on can make quality posts to get Merits from other members.
And, there is a one more thing that prevents selling Merits, it is that you cannot generate Merits out of nowhere. Before, people used to create a lot of accounts and used to increase their activity points to reach a certain rank and then sell those accounts. Now if you create an account, it has 0 Merits, and it cannot go higher than Jr. member without getting any Merits. And I doubt if someone creates accounts for the only purpose of selling them later on can make quality posts to get Merits from other members.
So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.
Yeah I think its not good, maybe those who are selling their merit should banned automatically or maybe have some warning. Buying merit is not good, merit should need to work hard before you can get it. Moderators should do something about this.
this rule poses a positive and negative side. merit is now more important than the amount of activity or posting. this can be positive. because this rule is a good idea to calculate everyone's contribution in this forum. But, on the other hand there is the possibility some people here can sell their merit to those who want it. and when buying and selling merit happens, of course that's not fair, because they get merit through shortcuts.
I think the intention is good, but there might be some limitations. One easily can find that there are lots of post which are not upto that mark to get the merit point, are getting merit. For example- bounty managers are getting merit for just the announcement 'payment sent'.
This new system indeed has good intentions, but will make the forums vulnerable to abuse. Just because people have high ranks doesn't mean that are 100% clean.
I think the intention is good, but there might be some limitations. One easily can find that there are lots of post which are not upto that mark to get the merit point, are getting merit. For example- bounty managers are getting merit for just the announcement 'payment sent' or even 'Yes, you can all remove your signatures'.
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
Does it matter if they have merits even they are newbies? Anyone here can send merits to someone because they want to. As of now, I dont fully understand whats the use of merits in this forum because I havent read the announcement yet. But if it does not affect your rank activity in this forum just let them be.
and they can sell it too
So I think this merit mechanism is unfair, because it would allow those legendary or heroic users to profit from the merit mechanisms, and not to upgrade those who can not afford it.
you're right. 
Hello guys i saw some newbie has a merit points haha.what do you think?they buy it or not?because anyone who had merit points can be transfer to other people or sell them to other people.
Does it matter if they have merits even they are newbies? Anyone here can send merits to someone because they want to. As of now, I dont fully understand whats the use of merits in this forum because I havent read the announcement yet. But if it does not affect your rank activity in this forum just let them be.
Lot of changes happened in this forum and i did not know what is next. The merit is to check the quality post of every individual here which is nice to know if our post is offensive or not.
This merit thing reminds me of other people saying that bitcoin is bad. Yes it will be unfair if people use it on evil purposes but I think we are over looking the positive side. Because of this merit thing we will now mostly see quality post instead of useless spam post. I think that is the main goal of this merit thing, to clean this forum. Since it is implemented already there is nothing we can do but to live with the change.
Still, we don't have much clarity on how this merit points will work, let the moderator give any update in this matter. Mean while start learning and start posting according to your rank.
I don't have anything against the merit system. It's actually a good idea. Newbies should not be degraded because if they are really into this forum, they will be encouraged to level up themselves.
Number of spammers will decrease because they won't be able to make quality posts that much.
But there is one thing that can still be alarming aside from buying merit, multi account users might + merit their other account to acquire it.
Any thoughts about it ?
Number of spammers will decrease because they won't be able to make quality posts that much.
But there is one thing that can still be alarming aside from buying merit, multi account users might + merit their other account to acquire it.
Any thoughts about it ?
I see that people who thought that merit system is good are more than 90% who are in ranks above or equal Sr. member.
I think if all people start from 0 merit this percentage in these ranks will drop down to 10% or less I am sure of it.
If these people are so sure this system is good, then everyone can start from 0 merit and we can see then really who has qualified posts who are not.
Starting someone from 10 or 100 or 1000 in merit system is not realistic.
If these ranks deserve 100 or more than we should see it in a short time also they can gain merits with their qualified posts after system start..
I think if all people start from 0 merit this percentage in these ranks will drop down to 10% or less I am sure of it.
If these people are so sure this system is good, then everyone can start from 0 merit and we can see then really who has qualified posts who are not.
Starting someone from 10 or 100 or 1000 in merit system is not realistic.
If these ranks deserve 100 or more than we should see it in a short time also they can gain merits with their qualified posts after system start..
We oppose the merit system even if it has just been implemented without taking into consideration what benefits it can bring to this forum. Furthermore, we haven't even fully seen its effects whether bad or good, to assess it this early. We should give it time to see its effects that the moderators have envisioned because first of all, they would not have decided to implement it without assessing the cost-benefit it can bring.
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