Percentage of Merit received on old posts, deleted posts, and average per post - page 5.

vit05

hero member

Activity: 672

Merit: 526

Quote from: vphasitha01 on October 20, 2018, 09:42:44 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on October 20, 2018, 08:50:05 AM

Quote from: vphasitha01 on October 20, 2018, 07:42:17 AM

This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future

The average is skewed heavily by 50 merits from theymos for this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonymous-atomic-swaps-using-homomorphic-hashing-4980960

This might be not sustainable.

Fair enough, but theymos has also received 5 Txn. of 50 merits, 1 Txn. of 45 merits, 1 Txn. of 42 merits and 2 Txn. of 40 merits. That means total of 417 merits in just 9 transactions.

So if we removed those 417 from 1266, his average of Merit/New post would also reduced from 3.3760 to 2.2640 Wink

It would be interesting to see a ranking of users who received no more than 2 merits from other users and no more than 10 merits for a given post. That is, users who are constantly receiving merits for common posts. Which are neither extraordinary nor outlier, but still produce content interesting enough to receive some merits.

vphasitha01

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 174

Quote from: suchmoon on October 20, 2018, 08:50:05 AM

Quote from: vphasitha01 on October 20, 2018, 07:42:17 AM

This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future

The average is skewed heavily by 50 merits from theymos for this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonymous-atomic-swaps-using-homomorphic-hashing-4980960

This might be not sustainable.

Fair enough, but theymos has also received 5 Txn. of 50 merits, 1 Txn. of 45 merits, 1 Txn. of 42 merits and 2 Txn. of 40 merits. That means total of 417 merits in just 9 transactions.

So if we removed those 417 from 1266, his average of Merit/New post would also reduced from 3.3760 to 2.2640 Wink

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: vphasitha01 on October 20, 2018, 07:42:17 AM

This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future

The average is skewed heavily by 50 merits from theymos for this post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonymous-atomic-swaps-using-homomorphic-hashing-4980960

This might be not sustainable.

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: Heisenberg_Hunter on October 19, 2018, 01:02:25 PM

LoyceV can I have mine please? Cheesy

User Heisenberg_Hunter (full history)

Received a total of 127 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 3 Merit (2.36%) for 16 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.1875 Merit per old post).
Received 122 Merit (96.06%) for 358 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3407 Merit per new post).
Received 2 Merit (1.57%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: vphasitha01 on October 20, 2018, 07:42:17 AM

This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future

User johank (full history)

Received a total of 79 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 78 Merit (98.73%) for 14 posts created after the introduction of Merit (5.5714 Merit per new post).
Received 1 Merit (1.26%) for posts that are now deleted.

vphasitha01

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 174

Quote from: Heisenberg_Hunter on October 19, 2018, 01:02:25 PM

Merit/New Post Toppers so far : Grin

1. gmaxwell [7.1000 Merit per new post]
2. theymos [3.3760 Merit per new post]
<...snip...>

This johank guy will beat the gmaxwell as well if he continue posting in future

Now he is currently at the position 2 in the Merit/New post toppers list, but not theymos

1. gmaxwell [7.1000 Merit per new post]
2. johank [5.6428 Merit per new post]
3. theymos [3.3760 Merit per new post]

Heisenberg_Hunter

legendary

Activity: 1584

Merit: 1280

Heisenberg Design Services

Merit/New Post Toppers so far : Grin

1. gmaxwell [7.1000 Merit per new post]
2. johank [5.5714 Merit per new post]
3. theymos [3.3760 Merit per new post]
4. satoshi [2.2671 Merit per old post]
5. achow101 [1.0991 Merit per new post]
6. nullius [1.0669 Merit per new post]
7. DdmrDdmr [0.9981 Merit per new post]
8. Foxpup [0.7747 Merit per new post]
9. hilariousetc [0.5845 Merit per new post]
10. LoyceV [0.3737 Merit per new post]
11. Piggy [0.3560 Merit per new post]

Seems like gmaxwell's in-depth replies to each of the technical questions he replies receives a lot of merits. Almost all the Core devs (except very few like gmaxwell and achow101, though achow101 doesn't have commit access to the core) stopped responding in this forum and have been inactive for more than a year or 2 leaving maxwell and Andrew the only devs to reply back to some really difficult bitcoin issues which pops up occasionally in Tech Board.

LoyceV can I have mine please? Cheesy

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: pugman on October 19, 2018, 07:20:44 AM

Uh, #metoo?

User pugman (full history)

Received a total of 300 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 747 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 291 Merit (97.00%) for 1106 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2631 Merit per new post).
Received 9 Merit (3.00%) for posts that are now deleted.

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Can you do the same for sent merit as well?

I can't really calculate a percentage for sent Merit, as there's no way I can know how many posts you've read.

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idk, I am just trying to put your mind at more work which would lead have no actual IRL use. Undecided

Lol

pugman

legendary

Activity: 2383

Merit: 1551

dogs are cute.

Uh, #metoo?

Can you do the same for sent merit as well? idk, I am just trying to put your mind at more work which would lead have no actual IRL use. Undecided

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: Jet Cash on October 17, 2018, 07:47:05 AM

Source merits are a constant flow, and not a monthly update. They are replaced 30 days after being awarded. If they aren't awarded instantly, they aren't lost, it just means a slight delay in their replacement.

True, but technically the delay means some sMerits are "lost" (not generated at the full capacity) if you don't drain your source to 0 at least once every 30 days.

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: Foxpup on October 17, 2018, 06:43:21 AM

Do me! And, if it's not too much to ask, the members of the Vulpine Order of Merit whom you haven't already done or are going to do (Jet Cash, achow101, gmaxwell, and o_e_l_e_o). I'm interested to know if my high expectations for the Order are justified.

User Foxpup (full history)

Received a total of 153 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 9 Merit (5.88%) for 3024 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0029 Merit per old post).
Received 141 Merit (92.15%) for 182 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.7747 Merit per new post).
Received 3 Merit (1.96%) for posts that are now deleted.

User JetCash (full history)

Received a total of 737 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 2 Merit (0.27%) for 2126 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0009 Merit per old post).
Received 732 Merit (99.32%) for 3410 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2146 Merit per new post).
Received 3 Merit (0.40%) for posts that are now deleted.

User achow101 (full history)

Received a total of 699 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 46 Merit (6.58%) for 10307 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0044 Merit per old post).
Received 643 Merit (91.98%) for 585 posts created after the introduction of Merit (1.0991 Merit per new post).
Received 10 Merit (1.43%) for posts that are now deleted.

User gmaxwell (full history)

Received a total of 540 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 109 Merit (20.18%) for 4698 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0232 Merit per old post).
Received 426 Merit (78.88%) for 60 posts created after the introduction of Merit (7.1000 Merit per new post).
Received 5 Merit (0.92%) for posts that are now deleted.

User o_e_l_e_o (full history)

Received a total of 537 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 341 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 506 Merit (94.22%) for 1727 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2929 Merit per new post).
Received 31 Merit (5.77%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: vphasitha01 on October 17, 2018, 07:31:34 AM

Can you try for me LoyceV

User vphasitha01 (full history)

Received a total of 161 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 157 Merit (97.51%) for 478 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3284 Merit per new post).
Received 4 Merit (2.48%) for posts that are now deleted.

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@LoyceV can you list the users who awarded the most number of merits for the deleted posts?

No, unfortunately I can't. That would require scraping all posts from all merited users.

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Btw why you specifically chosen Alex_Sr for your list in the OP? Is he the member who has the most merits for the post that are now deleted?

I took him as an example because I remembered his name. He's one of the users who received a lot of Merit from xandry, who used to give Merit for reporting spam or plagiarism (I don't remember exactly), which was deleted after taking Mod action on the offenders. There's a thread about it somewhere, and he stopped doing this. It's not necessarily abuse, but it was debated and made a nice example of a user with many deleted posts. See xandry's full Merit history for a long list of Merit sent to posts that are now deleted.

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I'm somewhat confused to understand whether this number is positive indicator or negative indicator when comparing stats Huh

It depends on the reason the posts were deleted. In general, I don't think it's a good thing. But it also depends on the board, I can imagine some good posts disappeared when the entire thread was trashed. Or posted on a board that I can't scrape.

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Thanks for the numbers!

Quote from: LoyceV on October 17, 2018, 03:08:23 AM

Errors to fix first Sad

It seems to fail on users with many posts.
Update: you have 9 less pages of post history when I'm not logged in (which is what my scraper gets). Vod misses 10 pages. That caused the errors. Here's yours:

Posts in Investigations etc? Not sure if there could be that many though. Sorry that my shitposting broke your code

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2828

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

Quote from: vphasitha01 on October 17, 2018, 07:31:34 AM

If unspent Merits will remained with a merit source at the end of a month wouldn't do any good for the forum (at least as I see)

Source merits are a constant flow, and not a monthly update. They are replaced 30 days after being awarded. If they aren't awarded instantly, they aren't lost, it just means a slight delay in their replacement.

Just to clarify the reason for creating Snow Eagle. It has let me play with a new template that I quite liked, and I can use the knowledge gained in building it to create landing pages for domains that I want to sell. It has a positive benefit for me in the forum as well.

vphasitha01

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 174

Can you try for me LoyceV

@LoyceV can you list the users who awarded the most number of merits for the deleted posts?

Btw why you specifically chosen Alex_Sr for your list in the OP? Is he the member who has the most merits for the post that are now deleted?

I'm somewhat confused to understand whether this number is positive indicator or negative indicator when comparing stats Huh

Quote from: Jet Cash on October 17, 2018, 06:59:25 AM

I've slowed down a bit recently, as I've got involved in a few associated projects. I'm trying to improve my efficiency in merit awarding, and that is why I started the snow eagle site.

You're a great asset for bitcointalk as a merit source and well as a good poster. Don't you think you're pressing too hard when awarding merits? Don't be too complicated and analyse so many variables when awarding Merits just give it after checking whether the member is shitposter or not, whether s/he gives something to the forum and whether the user plagarised the post or not. If unspent Merits will remained with a merit source at the end of a month wouldn't do any good for the forum (at least as I see)

Jet Cash

legendary

Activity: 2828

Merit: 2472

https://JetCash.com

I've slowed down a bit recently, as I've got involved in a few associated projects. I'm trying to improve my efficiency in merit awarding, and that is why I started the snow eagle site. I'd be interested to know how much this has affected my posting behaviour though.

I can add the Vulpine Order of Merit members to my avatar page on snow eagles if you think it would be useful. I'm already finding it handyl to check on the latest posts by the members listed.

Foxpup

legendary

Activity: 4542

Merit: 3393

Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023

Do me! And, if it's not too much to ask, the members of the Vulpine Order of Merit whom you haven't already done or are going to do (Jet Cash, achow101, gmaxwell, and o_e_l_e_o). I'm interested to know if my high expectations for the Order are justified.

mk4

legendary

Activity: 2870

Merit: 3873

📟 t3rminal.xyz

Quote from: LoyceV on October 17, 2018, 03:08:23 AM

Quote from: mk4 on October 16, 2018, 10:23:31 PM

Nice topic though!

Thanks

Here's yours:

User mjglqw (full history)

Received a total of 146 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 2 Merit (1.36%) for 1975 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0010 Merit per old post).
Received 133 Merit (91.09%) for 2027 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.0656 Merit per new post).
Received 11 Merit (7.53%) for posts that are now deleted.

I'm quite fine with my 146 merits, but yikes 7.53% from deleted posts. I don't know what to feel about that. Thanks though!

Looks like you're going to do a lot of work due to the number of requests. Tongue

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: ABCbits on October 17, 2018, 03:22:37 AM

Interesting, please check mine as well

User ETFbitcoin (full history)

Received a total of 163 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 5 Merit (3.06%) for 5151 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0009 Merit per old post).
Received 147 Merit (90.18%) for 1063 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1382 Merit per new post).
Received 11 Merit (6.74%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: Piggy on October 17, 2018, 03:32:34 AM

Yes, it's a lot of pages to parse again from the back log till now, but once that big chunk is done is going to be fairly easy to keep it updated, since you are already parsing the merited messages to get the title of the thread Grin

For finding abuse, the merited deleted posts are the most interesting part. And that's something I can only find by scraping the entire post history, modlog doesn't show it when a user deletes his own post.

ABCbits

legendary

Activity: 2870

Merit: 7490

Crypto Swap Exchange

Interesting, please check mine as well

Quote from: LoyceV on October 17, 2018, 03:08:23 AM

1. I don't use Microsoft products Tongue

2. I made shitty code Sad

3. I don't want to enable more users to increase forum load by scraping more data.

1. There are other alternatives such as GitLab or upload to your own site
2. No problem as long as you don't name variable such as a, b or c. Besides other people might contribute to your code.

Piggy

hero member

Activity: 784

Merit: 1416

Quote from: LoyceV on October 17, 2018, 03:08:23 AM

I wish I could! But it requires scraping the entire post history (yours is 196 pages), and it would be far too much data to do this for all merited users. Here's yours:

Yes, it's a lot of pages to parse again from the back log till now, but once that big chunk is done is going to be fairly easy to keep it updated, since you are already parsing the merited messages to get the title of the thread Grin

Anyway, is good to have it on demand as well.

LoyceV

legendary

Activity: 3290

Merit: 16489

Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: Lafu on October 16, 2018, 04:27:14 PM

Count me in , let me see my stats ! Grin

User Lafu (full history)

Received a total of 172 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 1406 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 172 Merit (100.00%) for 886 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1941 Merit per new post).
Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: suchmoon on October 16, 2018, 04:34:00 PM

Please add me.

Errors to fix first Sad

It seems to fail on users with many posts.
Update: you have 9 less pages of post history when I'm not logged in (which is what my scraper gets). Vod misses 10 pages. That caused the errors. Here's yours:

User suchmoon (full history)

Received a total of 777 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 111 Merit (14.28%) for 11129 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0099 Merit per old post).
Received 656 Merit (84.42%) for 2371 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.2766 Merit per new post).
Received 10 Merit (1.28%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: Thekool1s on October 16, 2018, 08:11:19 PM

I know mine lol...

User Thekool1s (full history)

Received a total of 45 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 1400 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 45 Merit (100.00%) for 349 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1289 Merit per new post).
Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: mk4 on October 16, 2018, 10:23:31 PM

Nice topic though!

Thanks

Here's yours:

User mjglqw (full history)

Received a total of 146 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 2 Merit (1.36%) for 1975 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.0010 Merit per old post).
Received 133 Merit (91.09%) for 2027 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.0656 Merit per new post).
Received 11 Merit (7.53%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: actmyname on October 16, 2018, 10:51:35 PM

+1

User actmyname (full history)

Received a total of 285 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 11 Merit (3.85%) for 2843 posts created before the introduction of Merit (.0038 Merit per old post).
Received 266 Merit (93.33%) for 1029 posts created after the introduction of Merit (.2585 Merit per new post).
Received 8 Merit (2.80%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: S_Therapist on October 16, 2018, 11:34:17 PM

@LoyceV
Can you please add stats for theymos? Would be nice to see, IMO.

OP already mentioned theymos, I'll add him soon. Here's yours:

User S_Therapist (full history)

Received a total of 12 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 0 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 12 Merit (100.00%) for 92 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.1304 Merit per new post).
Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: Piggy on October 17, 2018, 12:10:41 AM

Are you going to include it directly in the merit profile page of each user?

I wish I could! But it requires scraping the entire post history (yours is 196 pages), and it would be far too much data to do this for all merited users. Here's yours:

User Piggy (full history)

Received a total of 656 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 0 Merit (0%) for 2088 posts created before the introduction of Merit.
Received 648 Merit (98.78%) for 1820 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3560 Merit per new post).
Received 8 Merit (1.21%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: DdmrDdmr on October 17, 2018, 01:26:09 AM

It’s interesting to see the distinction of posts you’ve created, and that you’ve managed to get the number of posts before the introduction of the merit system (I presume you’ve managed to get hold of a snapshot around the time).

I'm scraping all posts made by a user. That gives me much more information than I need for this, but it's the only way to know for sure which posts have been deleted.
At current stats, you're above 1 Merit per post on average again. I kinda lowered your average (0.9981 Merit per new post) by using last Friday's Merit data and the current number of posts. I'll add this limitation to the OP.

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on October 17, 2018, 01:41:12 AM

You can count me too. Seems interesting Wink

User iasenko (full history)

Received a total of 532 Merit up to last Friday.
Received 42 Merit (7.89%) for 117 posts created before the introduction of Merit (0.3589 Merit per old post).
Received 490 Merit (92.10%) for 1523 posts created after the introduction of Merit (0.3217 Merit per new post).
Received 0 Merit (0%) for posts that are now deleted.

Quote from: Nikisa on October 17, 2018, 02:02:16 AM

+1 And me add please. I really like topics with statistics. My ratio merit per new post will be approximately 0.49

You added yourself, nicely done. However, I use last Friday's Merit data, so I'd get lower numbers.

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