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Topic: Petition to sticky Dogies manufacturer trustworthiness guide!! - page 4. (Read 6621 times)

legendary
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dogiecoin.com
Hear, hear! Sticky that nugget of gold ASAP!

Disagreeing with him makes no difference.  proving the facts makes no difference.  writing to him personally makes no difference.  he is a law unto himself.  Criticism both constructive or otherwise has been ignored.  Several professional miners have pointed out areas where he has not been objective and he's not made any of the changes they recommended.  Suspect any opinion that doesnt agree with his own is ignored.  Even when his own objective measurements are ignored when it suits to say whatever he wants...


You want to substantiate any of those rather aggressive claims?
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
if dogies opinion can be wrong and/or he could be paid off.

If its 'wrong', disagree with me. And I'm probably the last person you can pay off. I'm not saying there shouldn't be others doing the same, but the smaller the guide owner, the easier it is to pay them off.

IMO we shouldn't be stickying anything that is constantly changing, debatable, and full of opinions.

I tend to agree, simply put it's too subjective.  I think newbs should be encouraged to use his guide because IMO it's the best we got ATM.  The potential for abuse, conflict of interest and it's opinion based scoring systems leads me to believe it should be left to stand on it's own merit as a thread and not stickied.

People shouldn't be looking for a simple opinion based guide to tell them what to buy, we should be encouraging them (like the caveat emptor thread does) to do their own research and formulate their own opinion, but I guess in this day and age of instant gratification everyone wants someone else to tell them what there opinion is so they can be done with it, so ya fuck it just sticky it already.

I changed to a numerical based system so its as non opinionated as possible, simply I have no sway in skewing the scores, all I can do is change the system which applies to all companies. If people have a better system, they're free to suggest one but I'm still yet to receive any.

As you say, it would be great if people did their own in depth research and came to their own conclusions but they simply don't, hence BFL had 25M in sales last year.
legendary
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Too many stickies just spoil the broth Wink

Just put it in the first post of the Caveat Emptor stickie, along with any other relevant posts.
hero member
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Hear, hear! Sticky that nugget of gold ASAP!

Disagree.   its Dogie's opinions alone- which in most cases also matches the reality - but, good though they often are, the guide contains too many of his personal opinions without letting 'facts' get in the way - the guide lacks objectivity.

Dogie has ignored constructive criticism and writes whatever he wants, which is of course his absolute right.  but stickying it would elevate it to a formal position of the forum, and would imply its the official position of the community, and it isnt - Its one man's view and for better or for worse there are some companies he likes and some he doesnt like, and it wouldnt matter what the facts are, he's going to praise the ones he likes and diss the ones he doesnt, irrespective of the number of people telling him where he got it wrong.

Disagreeing with him makes no difference.  proving the facts makes no difference.  writing to him personally makes no difference.  he is a law unto himself.  Criticism both constructive or otherwise has been ignored.  Several professional miners have pointed out areas where he has not been objective and he's not made any of the changes they recommended.  Suspect any opinion that doesnt agree with his own is ignored.  Even when his own objective measurements are ignored when it suits to say whatever he wants... which yet again, is his right of free speech to say and do what the hell he wants but that's not a democratic and unbiassed guide.  Dogie's guide is statistically irrelevant - its based on a sample size of One.   Its definitely Dogie's guide, and its good for casual use but not a good 'official guide' as its too subjective - Its not 'decentralised'.
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
if dogies opinion can be wrong and/or he could be paid off.

If its 'wrong', disagree with me. And I'm probably the last person you can pay off. I'm not saying there shouldn't be others doing the same, but the smaller the guide owner, the easier it is to pay them off.

IMO we shouldn't be stickying anything that is constantly changing, debatable, and full of opinions.

I tend to agree, simply put it's too subjective.  I think newbs should be encouraged to use his guide because IMO it's the best we got ATM.  The potential for abuse, conflict of interest and it's opinion based scoring systems leads me to believe it should be left to stand on it's own merit as a thread and not stickied.

People shouldn't be looking for a simple opinion based guide to tell them what to buy, we should be encouraging them (like the caveat emptor thread does) to do their own research and formulate their own opinion, but I guess in this day and age of instant gratification everyone wants someone else to tell them what there opinion is so they can be done with it, so ya fuck it just sticky it already.
hero member
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member
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Hear, hear! Sticky that nugget of gold ASAP!
legendary
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It should be stickied!!!  Grin

He's not as critical as I would be,after being burned by BFL,Avalon & almost Blackarrow & watching the meltdown of Hashfast,AMT & others  Roll Eyes

But good reviews nonetheless.He does get some equipment free,but to me it doesn't seem to sway him....much  Cheesy

We need to help the general public to make good decisions on miner purchases.Oh & the rent-a-hash scams too  Roll Eyes

Hate to say it,but ordinary folks won't be mining for too much longer at home.The mining corps are seeing to that....it's a lot of fun while it lasts though  Cry
hero member
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From personal experience his guides have not steered me wrong personally speaking and I imagine others as well. His assessments are consistent and thorough. His views seem to be fitting generally with the companies he puts reviews up for. Those views are also reviewed and updated depending on any new information. I think that warrants at least a sticky even if you don't agree. Right now dogie is the only one doing these reviews really. The individual manufacturer threads are either self moderated or massive trollfests. At least an at a glance view of the review info from a respected member of the community would be nice to have on here with visibility for newbies to check out quick and then do more research from that point.
hero member
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*trustworthiness

Wow not sure how I missed that. DYSLEXICS UNTIE!!! Fixed it.
legendary
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if dogies opinion can be wrong and/or he could be paid off.

If its 'wrong', disagree with me. And I'm probably the last person you can pay off. I'm not saying there shouldn't be others doing the same, but the smaller the guide owner, the easier it is to pay them off.

IMO we shouldn't be stickying anything that is constantly changing, debatable, and full of opinions.

Be it as it may. There are other eyes on the issue . If you want another opinion there are other active community participants you can ask
hero member
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if dogies opinion can be wrong and/or he could be paid off.

If its 'wrong', disagree with me. And I'm probably the last person you can pay off. I'm not saying there shouldn't be others doing the same, but the smaller the guide owner, the easier it is to pay them off.

IMO we shouldn't be stickying anything that is constantly changing, debatable, and full of opinions.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
if dogies opinion can be wrong and/or he could be paid off.

If its 'wrong', disagree with me. And I'm probably the last person you can pay off. I'm not saying there shouldn't be others doing the same, but the smaller the guide owner, the easier it is to pay them off.
hero member
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Mods should know it! I am sure they have been contacted, I know I have. But considering that caveat emptor disclaimer also involves some research on the part of the prospect, why not make it easier for them by adding Dogies manufacturer trustworthiness guide? If you feel that thread should be stickied comment in this thread, hopefully mods listen and sticky it.

Reference in question https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-manufacturer-trustworthiness-guide-1st-feb-2016-456691

I like his guide but I don't think it should be stickied.

We need more people making trustworthiness guides so it's less impartial.

I don't want an "official" ratings list especially if dogies opinion can be wrong and/or he could be paid off.
legendary
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dogiecoin.com
*trustworthiness
legendary
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Christian Antkow
hero member
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Mods should know it! I am sure they have been contacted, I know I have. But considering that caveat emptor disclaimer also involves some research on the part of the prospect, why not make it easier for them by adding Dogies manufacturer trustworthiness guide? If you feel that thread should be stickied comment in this thread, hopefully mods listen and sticky it.

Reference in question https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guide-dogies-comprehensive-manufacturer-trustworthiness-guide-1st-feb-2016-456691


Vote here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vote-to-sticky-dogies-manufacturer-trustworthiness-thread-731973
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