Topic: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus? - page 2. (Read 662 times)

A re-analysis of data provided by the Israeli Health Ministry concluded that Pfizer and BioNTech's messenger RNA (mRNA) gene therapy injections have already killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period.

Piggybacking on research from back in January which found that Chinese virus vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, this latest study indicts the Trump vaccines for causing more death rather than preventing it.

Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a faculty member at Aix-Marseille University in France demonstrated using a full mathematical analysis that among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated."

"This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination," he added.

Elderlies are actually volunteers who signs a written consent before they get vaccinated.

Armed forces for the last 100 years or so been canon fodder lots of time, just take Normandy. France coast line is long, lots of beaches with zero defense, but no lets go in some small stretch of land with crazy amount of heavy fortified bunkers. Nothing but sacrificial lamb.
Most people would have preferred  to stayed in bed with wife and not freeze in some wet, cold dirt hole in country far away. It was the law to fight the “enemy”, same it is the law in lots of places to wear a mask because the evil “enemy” ….Once able men are gone/out of the way with rest of population you do as please.
There is no “vaccine” for covid only a treatment.

So badecker, I think we found the flaw in your logic.

If the COVID vaccine damages the health and natural immunity of any individual who has the misfortune of being jabbed, and that the government is pushing vaccines as a tactic of population control, then it would make no sense for the vaccine to be distributed amongst the armed forces. If you have a weak military, you have a weak country.


So which is it? The vaccine is safe and actually serves a purpose? Or, the government is acting against their self interest and are weakening their own military? Which seems more plausible, because the government acting against their own self interest seems the least plausible.

You make a good point about the use of the military for the experimental vaccine cause they are making alot of sacrifices for the country but the use of the elderly people for the experimental vaccine is not good either and it does matter alot even if they are going to die soon.
Having said that, the experiment should be performed on a volunteer.

While in January a group of independent doctors concluded that experimental COVID-19 vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, a new analysis of vaccine-related death rates in Israel demonstrates that this may indeed be the case to dramatic levels.

A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2 percent … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination."

"This scary picture also extends to those below 65," the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process "0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate."

As reported by IsraelNationalNews (INN), Seligmann is of Israeli-Luxembourg nationality, has a biology degree from Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and has written more than 100 scientific publications. INN reports the researchers "have no conflicts or interests other than having children in Israel."

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


No. It's the start of continued dependence on more and more vaccines in the future.

Don't know if these vaccines could really cure the covid or protect us with this virus. Remember covid-19 was not a natural disease so you cannot be sure of the motive behind these vaccines too.

One of the most effective ways for a vaccine to cure us from Covid, is to use it to kill off all the people. No people, nobody will have to worry about Covid any longer, right? We can see from what is happening to people who take/get the vaccine, that this is what is starting to happen.

There are so many different mutations out there already, in Brazil, UK, South Africa. It will be hard for the vaccines to cover all the possible mutations from the start. My bet is that we will see new vaccines coming out at the end of this year, so that there will a need for everybody to get another vaccine. Also we still don't know the long term immunity of the vaccines yet. It could be the case that the vaccines will be recurring event every year.

Evidence so far suggests that the two Covid-19 vaccines authorized in the U.S., from Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech, appear to offer good protection against new variants.

Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.