Topic: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus? - page 3. (Read 685 times)

UAE is currently using four different vaccines - Pfizer-BioNTech, Oxford-AstraZeneca, Sputnik V and Sinopharm. Now these four have varying efficacy rates, ranging from 95% for the Pfizer vaccine to 62% for AstraZeneca. They received the vaccines in time not because they are rich. They received them on time, because they were one of the first countries to sign contracts with the vaccine manufacturers.

Vaccines that are mass used for now are Pfizer, and after it are Sputnik and Sinofarm. Country like UAE, who is ranking high in vaccination, is using Sputnik and Sinofarm. They are rich, they do beleive in these vaccines so do I.

Putting a population (of viruses in this case) under stress is a VERY effective way to accelerate 'evolution.'  Coronavirus, like influenza, have a 'life way' which associated with rapid evolution already which is why every year brings another set of 'strains'.

It's basically Ecology 101 that a 'vaccine' for coronavirus will result in a multitude of different 'strains' happening at an accelerated rate, and they will be highly skewed toward evasion of the 'vaccine'.

But don't worry; we can all get monthly shots for a while.  That will spur development (or maybe just implementation) of a 'near real time' system where an embedded platform is re-programmed wirelessly to update the gene therapy implant.

The vaccine is the mutation.
Brazil, UK and South Africa where places AstraZeneca vaccine was trialed.

This is extremely worrying. There was a study on the South African variant, and it was found that the vaccines which are in use currently have very low efficacy against it (even lower than what you have posted). Here is a link:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/08/oxford-covid-vaccine-10-effective-south-african-variant-study

Oxford Covid vaccine has 10% efficacy against South African variant, study suggests


This study was conducted for the vaccine from AstraZeneca and I don't know whether the vaccines from Pfizer or Moderna are showing a better efficacy or not. But the information we have till now is very worrying. And the worst part is that we may witness more mutations like the South African strains in the near future.

Here is a little of what ICAN is doing - https://www.icandecide.org/.

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ICAN achieved another victory in its ongoing campaign to ensure the government does not spread false information about vaccines.  New York State’s Department of Health prepared a social media campaign pushing the COVID-19 vaccines.  One of the ads falsely stated that the vaccines “went through the same rigorous approval process that all vaccines go through” and that “the vaccine is safe and effective. It was approved by the FDA, the CDC, and by NY’s independent vaccine panel.”  ICAN, through its attorneys, wrote to Dr. Howard Zucker, Commissioner of New York State’s Department of Health, and to Governor Cuomo, demanding they remove the false graphics and messaging regarding COVID-19 vaccines.  They quickly complied and removed the relevant false messaging.

On January 26, 2021, ICAN’s attorneys sent a letter to NYS DOH and Governor Cuomo informing them that they were violating federal law.  As part of Governor Cuomo’s #VaccinateNY campaign, NYS’s COVID-19 website provides materials to encourage and “educate” people about the COVID-19 vaccines. The social media materials are meant to be shared by New Yorkers to help spread the word and included the following poster:


Above this social media graphic, Cuomo and the NYS DOH provide the following “Sample Message” for individuals to use on social media: “The vaccine is safe and effective.  It was approved by the FDA, the CDC, and NY’s independent vaccine panel. Let’s #VaccinateNY!”


This social media messaging – intended to be shared and spread widely – made the false claim that the FDA “approved” a COVID-19 vaccine.  This is categorically false.  There is no COVID-19 vaccine that has been “approved” by the FDA.  The only two COVID-19 vaccines currently in use are authorized by the FDA pursuant to an emergency use authorization (“EUA”).

 

In fact, the FDA authorization letters (<<< Two Links There) for both COVID-19 vaccines expressly provide that the vaccines are each “an investigational vaccine not licensed for any indication” and require that “[a]ll promotional material relating to the COVID-19 Vaccine clearly and conspicuously … state that this product has not been approved or licensed by the FDA.”

 

Moreover, one would imagine that the Commissioner of the NYS DOH and the Governor would know that the CDC does not “approve” vaccines and that it would be false for them to claim that the CDC approved any COVID-19 vaccine.  Even worse, the two COVID-19 vaccines are still undergoing clinical trials, hence they were also spreading misinformation when they claimed that these EUA authorized products “went through the same rigorous approval process that all vaccines go through.”

 

New York State and Governor Cuomo needed to be fact checked.  We are pleased to tell you that, after being notified that failure to remove the inaccurate graphic and its false messaging would result in a lawsuit, New York State took it down.  This is another victory that should serve to remind New York State, Governor Cuomo, and others that someone is watching.  ICAN’s message should be heard loud and clear: you may not spread “misinformation” about vaccines.

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Just as a note here, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine isn’t as effective as the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. J&J has efficacy of approximatetly 65%, while Moderna and Pfizer are above 90%

Makes it much easier logistically, and is probably best to give to people who are younger and wouldn’t be at much of risk when they get COVID anyway while reserving the high efficacy vaccines for at risk / older people who would be at a much higher risk of death if they were to get COVID.

Personally can’t wait to get my vaccine, but that’s just me.

No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

Yes. Vaccinating everyone in a country (or sufficiently close to everyone to confer herd immunity within the country) is obviously a good thing, but is certainly not the end of the virus. Producing enough vaccine doses is one challenge, as is (in some countries) getting the anti-vaxxers to accept it. Pfizer does indeed present storage and transportation challenges. AFAIK the AstraZeneca vaccine is the only one at the moment that can be used with 'normal' refrigeration.

But the bigger issue is that nations are interconnected and this is a global problem, hence the 'pan' in pandemic. Whilst the virus continues to circulate amongst some populations, it will continue to mutate, and to produce vaccine-resistant strains, which can then infect those who've already been vaccinated against the original strain. Key here is how quickly the pharmaceutical companies can re-engineer their vaccines to address mutated strains... and anecdotal evidence suggests they can do so relatively quickly, in weeks... so I think we have grounds for cautious optimism.

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


No. It's the end of the world through population destruction.

At the current rate of vaccinations it is going to take at least a year to get everyone vaccinated. Sure there might be new companies coming out with new vaccines but we still don't know how effective these different drugs are long term. There are already 5 big companies in place mass producing vaccines, but it is not enough for everybody. There are quite a few poor countries in Africa or South America who haven't even vaccinated 0.5% of their population. Unfortunately we are still going to have to deal with corona in the next years.

Covid-19 vaccine in India: Deaths not related to vaccination, clarifies govt

When government says such statements then which itself create enough suspicious on them for sure.

More than 6.5 million vaccine doses administered in India till now (the vaccination program started almost one month back). Not a single case of death being reported as a result of vaccination, from this group. However, they are using the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Bharat Biotech vaccines, and not the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine. Although the efficacy is lower, the Indian government has gone for the version from AstraZeneca, because it is easier to store and is more affordable.

Government are in need of solution while those big medical companies took advantage of it, now they know the whole world is at emergency state and that is how media exaggrgated the whole situation. In my place people are not following any of the social distancing and preventive measures while the cases are very few and even people who died also have other chronic disease.

The vaccine is said to be effective..... and all but the one thing is people in the country got the vaccines. Still, the country allows people to fly in and out of the country and that will make a big fail WHY? it was said from the test results "you still might not have covid but for sure you should at least make a 14-day quarantine" at least from one of the videos I saw that I should have saved for you guys to believe me.


No matter the vaccine work I did not get the chance to saw the ones who volunteer becomes fine they did not show every country that the vaccine works for people I knew people were there to volunteer not from the news but from a one min vlog. I can't say the vaccine is good if the Government or the source gave reliable information that it was 100% fine.

I know if they did get to send it why wouldn't it be safe or fine? who knows it is just maybe a trick because from now of the previous news that I got to watch that a vaccine by the Department of Health for kids didn't work they made those kids are likely to become test rats why? because some of them become sick some of them died.



https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/dengue-vaccine-fiasco-leads-criminal-charges-researcher-philippines

those kids died for being test rats a vaccine that is free.


Still who knows Vaccine for COvod today could work but still a chance of zero that it does not work out,

For me it is a case of the following:

 - Understanding the goals of people who end up in positions of power.  (Mostly these are names nobody will ever hear.)

 - hypothesizing that biological means of achieving some of these goals would be the most effective.

 - having hypothesized that an 'epidemic' would be the most workable means of achieving the fine-grained control which might be desired.  (I'll admit that the idea of a 'mock-epidemic' or 'scamdemic' did not occur to me.)

 - Having put years of research into vaccination issues which necessitated becoming familiar with the biological science in use for 'normal' vaccines which are bad enough.

 - Having observed and (correctly) identified enough of the predictive programming that by Q1 2020 I was confidently predicting that the fallout of so-called 'covid-19' would be mass testing of genetic methods which, in normal circumstances, would have taken a decade or two longer to test and deploy.

For me this whole thing has been a very unpleasant set of stepping stones along a path which I could see fairly clearly from early on in this scamdemic and before.  By the end there will be implanted devices which can be programmed over the 5G network to produce any genetic material in any person, and on an individual basis.  Complete control of who gets what 'programming' will be in the hands of what is euphemistically called a 'public/private partnership'.  I often call this 'corp/gov'.

chorona will continue haunt the world until its mission (the woke left) is exterminated

I think it's normal thing that not everyone want to get vaccinated. You can't expect that 100% people will want to get it. Some afraid side effects, others can't get it because of diseases, and many afraid it because of conspiracy theories. Personally, I still haven't decided whether I will get vaccine or no. Though, it's not going to be soon, I'm young and don't belong to any priority grouos.
But supply is big problem, most countries don't get enough vaccines. If whole proccess will continue in such speed, it will took a while to get population vaccinated. There is very few countries which reached at least 5% of population vaccinated. Maybe Israel is doing everything in impressive speed.

IMO, people started to afraid of covid vaccines more than the covid virus due to its side effects and often the side effects are too severe for someone who doesn't even infected with the virus yet. And some articles posted that few people also died after taking the dosages.

I don't really know, of course. In the beginning of the video she says that she is having tongue spasms. But you can't hear them in her speech. So, if it is real, she is getting better. But she better think twice before getting a second shot.