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September 22, 2013, 09:39:49 PM
For most share holders, they lose money in the investment of the 100TH/200TH. Will it go far, if it swallows the money of the most players?
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September 22, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too.

This security is going to be 200TH not 100

Still overvalued by the same math. The blades are just 1.5x cheaper. And we haven't discussed whether those are a good deal, just that they're a better one.

20000 blades would cost 80000btc to buy. Current lowest asking price of 200Thash mine is 0.15btc per share when the total share amount is 518271 which would make 200Thash cost 77741btc. So the cost is about equal. In 200Thash mine you don't have to manage anything by yourself and the management costs are much lower than running blades.

Why do you even see the trouble of making a post when you have almost all the facts wrong and your calculations are off by 300%?
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September 22, 2013, 03:10:13 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too.

200TH, right... but the rest you said is the problem one has when you only create a mining ipo instead an ipo that owns its on asic and will grow the mine over time... *sigh* learning money i guess...

Does this also help you understand why you should NEVER use useless metrics like "APR" in evaluating a company's value (unless it's a bank)? This applies to ASICMiner.

APR varies wildly with the rapidly shifting margins. Current APR suggests noting about future APR.

Asicminer is different from this security here. They have their own asic and can produce hashpower at cost. Its the same here maybe, when the contracts are so, but this company is like buying hardware and run it to death. Asicminer instead is something that grows constantly. Calculating the divs for a year makes way more sense there than here.
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September 22, 2013, 03:06:14 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too.

200TH, right... but the rest you said is the problem one has when you only create a mining ipo instead an ipo that owns its on asic and will grow the mine over time... *sigh* learning money i guess...

Does this also help you understand why you should NEVER use useless metrics like "APR" in evaluating a company's value (unless it's a bank)? This applies to ASICMiner.

APR varies wildly with the rapidly shifting margins. Current APR suggests noting about future APR.
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September 22, 2013, 03:02:53 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too.

200TH, right... but the rest you said is the problem one has when you only create a mining ipo instead an ipo that owns its on asic and will grow the mine over time... *sigh* learning money i guess...
legendary
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September 22, 2013, 03:02:36 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH 200TH, i.e., 10,000 20,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 80,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x 1.5x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades without accounting for electricity charges, and you are likely to lose money on those too.
FTFY
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September 22, 2013, 03:02:04 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too.

This security is going to be 200TH not 100

Still overvalued by the same math. The blades are just 1.5x cheaper. And we haven't discussed whether those are a good deal, just that they're a better one.
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September 22, 2013, 03:00:43 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too.

This security is going to be 200TH not 100
sr. member
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September 22, 2013, 02:58:46 PM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.

AM is selling blades at ~4 BTC/10GH.

This security represents 100TH, i.e., 10,000 blades worth of hashpower. That would cost 40,000 BTC to buy.

Market cap:   120526.04077839 BTC

This is provably overvalued. You are getting a 3x better deal by buying ASICMiner blades, and you are likely to lose money on those too.
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September 22, 2013, 01:27:38 PM

 
100th : Reports     https://picostocks.com/docs/index/19
Yay, solomining partially commenced Smiley Thank you guys.
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September 22, 2013, 01:09:06 PM

 
100th : Reports     https://picostocks.com/docs/index/19
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September 22, 2013, 10:36:49 AM
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I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors.
Yes, but that picostocks.com platform is so confusing, I still can't find my way around!
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September 22, 2013, 10:12:05 AM
Hm... Asicminer shares normally are priced that high that one could make 25% over a year. This share here now has 100% div in a year. I see a difference to asicminer but still i dont like the shareprice actually. If they had 200TH now already it would be 400% per year. I hope they get it done and that this security is found by more investors. Since they seem to mine already. Thats more than other securities can say.
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September 22, 2013, 12:54:55 AM
This word, "theft" does not mean what you think it means.

You would prefer 100TH gambles with our money on a high variance pool instead?

Perhaps we could compromise by using a lower fee pool, but that lower fee would be more than cancelled out by the lower reliability.
Yes I would prefer even the "gamble" of solo mining to the massive single point of failure that has been built around eluthrias DeepBit integrity and physical safety. Tbh with the network as it currently stands eluthria DeepBit should not be in the same elevator with himself.

The lower fee would not be canceled by the "lower reliability" variance does even out over time.

2011 called, wants its FUD back.    Smiley

Antifragile. Look it up.
So your saying that eluthria being compromised so that the guilds hashrate could be exploted to launch double spends would not affect the exchange, adoption and userates of bitcoin.
Btw will you be doing something similiarry stoopid with the Ice drill ? I'd like to know now so I can dump my shares before you also start chucking turd at the fan.

You still need to google 'antifragile + bitcoin.'

I just got several thousand more IceDrill shares at the very low price of 0.001!  I'm very happy about it, thanks for reminding me.   Grin
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September 22, 2013, 12:46:31 AM
How will Buzzdave comply with the Anti-Money-Laundering statutes, since he does not require any verification of who is investing her?
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September 22, 2013, 12:39:52 AM
This word, "theft" does not mean what you think it means.

You would prefer 100TH gambles with our money on a high variance pool instead?

Perhaps we could compromise by using a lower fee pool, but that lower fee would be more than cancelled out by the lower reliability.
Yes I would prefer even the "gamble" of solo mining to the massive single point of failure that has been built around eluthrias DeepBit integrity and physical safety. Tbh with the network as it currently stands eluthria DeepBit should not be in the same elevator with himself.

The lower fee would not be canceled by the "lower reliability" variance does even out over time.

2011 called, wants its FUD back.    Smiley

Antifragile. Look it up.
So your saying that eluthria being compromised so that the guilds hashrate could be exploted to launch double spends would not affect the exchange, adoption and userates of bitcoin.
Btw will you be doing something similiarry stoopid with the Ice drill ? I'd like to know now so I can dump my shares before you also start chucking turd at the fan.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 22, 2013, 12:32:44 AM
This word, "theft" does not mean what you think it means.

You would prefer 100TH gambles with our money on a high variance pool instead?

Perhaps we could compromise by using a lower fee pool, but that lower fee would be more than cancelled out by the lower reliability.
Yes I would prefer even the "gamble" of solo mining to the massive single point of failure that has been built around eluthrias DeepBit integrity and physical safety. Tbh with the network as it currently stands eluthria DeepBit should not be in the same elevator with himself.

The lower fee would not be canceled by the "lower reliability" variance does even out over time.

2011 called, wants its FUD back.    Smiley

Antifragile. Look it up.
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September 21, 2013, 11:29:20 PM
This word, "theft" does not mean what you think it means.

You would prefer 100TH gambles with our money on a high variance pool instead?

Perhaps we could compromise by using a lower fee pool, but that lower fee would be more than cancelled out by the lower reliability.
Yes I would prefer even the "gamble" of solo mining to the massive single point of failure that has been built around eluthrias integrity and physical safety. Tbh with the network as it currently stands eluthria should not be in the same elevator with himself.

The lower fee would not be canceled by the "lower reliability" variance does even out over time.
legendary
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September 21, 2013, 08:27:27 PM
on a sidenote, https://ghash.io bitfury pool reaches 200TH
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September 21, 2013, 07:18:33 PM
Dave, Tytus, Jared, can you provide an estimate on when you expect to reach 100TH/s and 200TH/s? We are getting into the later part of September now and I think most of us expected the first 100TH to be online by this time. Also, raw dividend rates do not match hash rate..the highest 24hr average I've seen is ~55TH/s. Is the mine experiencing ongoing hardware/network problems?

Are hosting/maintenance fees being deducted from each dividend payment? I see there is about a 2% difference between dividend payouts and raw mining income. Can we get some clarification/updates on how fees are being taken out?

thanks

No one will answer your question ,cause they are all gone .september is almost over,we still at 50TH.
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