Topic: Pics of Huge Hosting Mine Under Construction, (Dec 2015 Update: We've moved) - page 15. (Read 54181 times)
January 16, 2015, 02:13:25 PM
But how do we know that it is real pictures?
January 16, 2015, 12:42:14 AM
All very impressive but is this still viable with the current price? I would have though investors will be very nervous right now.
12-month pre-payment plan ($80/kwh), 2 TH/s:
If you have the most efficient miners at .5 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $80, you are sitting at net $57/mo.
If you have the average miners at .7 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $112, you are sitting at net $25/mo.
If you have old miners at 1.0 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $160, you are sitting at negative $23/mo.
If nothing changes all year (price or difficulty ) youll make 200$ easy with an s5 and a 1 year contract at asicspace.
January 15, 2015, 11:21:03 PM
All very impressive but is this still viable with the current price? I would have though investors will be very nervous right now.
12-month pre-payment plan ($80/kwh), 2 TH/s:
If you have the most efficient miners at .5 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $80, you are sitting at net $57/mo.
If you have the average miners at .7 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $112, you are sitting at net $25/mo.
If you have old miners at 1.0 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $160, you are sitting at negative $23/mo.
If you mine in 90% of the US in your personal home with personal power rates your ROI chances will be slimmer than with ASICSPACE
Take a look at your power bills if your paying more than 0.1 a KWH then your paying more than asicspace charges you and you also have 0 insurance and you must listen to your nagging wife/gf about all the heat and noise of your miners.
An antminer s5 at asicspace will ROI in about 8 months if the price stays as low as it is if it goes up then your looking easily at 100 day roi (normal ROI for ASIC mining equipment at least on all of mine)
If nothing changes all year (price or difficulty ) youll make 200$ easy with an s5 and a 1 year contract at asicspace.
To someone who has already bought their miner, what they paid for it is a sunk cost. The question is can they save money by switching to us? For a lot of our customers, the answer is yes.
January 15, 2015, 10:38:22 PM
All very impressive but is this still viable with the current price? I would have though investors will be very nervous right now.
12-month pre-payment plan ($80/kwh), 2 TH/s:
If you have the most efficient miners at .5 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $80, you are sitting at net $57/mo.
If you have the average miners at .7 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $112, you are sitting at net $25/mo.
If you have old miners at 1.0 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $160, you are sitting at negative $23/mo.
If you mine in 90% of the US in your personal home with personal power rates your ROI chances will be slimmer than with ASICSPACE
Take a look at your power bills if your paying more than 0.1 a KWH then your paying more than asicspace charges you and you also have 0 insurance and you must listen to your nagging wife/gf about all the heat and noise of your miners.
An antminer s5 at asicspace will ROI in about 8 months if the price stays as low as it is if it goes up then your looking easily at 100 day roi (normal ROI for ASIC mining equipment at least on all of mine)
If nothing changes all year (price or difficulty ) youll make 200$ easy with an s5 and a 1 year contract at asicspace.
January 15, 2015, 07:37:02 PM
All very impressive but is this still viable with the current price? I would have though investors will be very nervous right now.
12-month pre-payment plan ($80/kwh), 2 TH/s:
If you have the most efficient miners at .5 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $80, you are sitting at net $57/mo.
If you have the average miners at .7 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $112, you are sitting at net $25/mo.
If you have old miners at 1.0 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $160, you are sitting at negative $23/mo.
January 15, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
All very impressive but is this still viable with the current price? I would have though investors will be very nervous right now.
12-month pre-payment plan ($80/kwh), 2 TH/s:
If you have the most efficient miners at .5 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $80, you are sitting at net $57/mo.
If you have the average miners at .7 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $112, you are sitting at net $25/mo.
If you have old miners at 1.0 J/GH, income is $137/mo, hosting is $160, you are sitting at negative $23/mo.
January 15, 2015, 02:06:50 PM
Hope, this mining farm will be at least 1 year with such price and hashrate difficulties...
January 15, 2015, 01:54:42 PM
glad to see that old building put to some kind of use, losing that plant was a big hit to the area. my friends dad worked there for years as a forklift operator.
January 15, 2015, 09:44:11 AM
All very impressive but is this still viable with the current price? I would have though investors will be very nervous right now.
Do you have any pics of the miners running?
Do you have any pics of the miners running?
January 14, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
What machines you will use there?
All of their room is for rent, they aren't hosting anything in particular, Well except for the fact they have to be ASICS I think.
January 14, 2015, 08:30:06 PM
What machines you will use there?
January 14, 2015, 08:00:07 PM
yes I read all of that, that's why I was posting the direct question to them on that. Its something that we learned very early on doing this in a containment situation, power efficiency is best spent getting larger air handlers to move the air, as opposed to letting the individual units run the 120mm / 90mm fans to circulate air. Plus if they do, the event I described above occurs, you end up with a massive blow-back that causes your units to cook.
In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.
Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.
In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.
Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.
I expect Cointerra learned this in spades when they were using the C7 Data Center folks to host their equipment. It appears that classical Data Center management and infrastructure are not optimal for a Bitcoin mining operation. Way overkill in many ways, including costs.
January 14, 2015, 06:53:41 PM
yes I read all of that, that's why I was posting the direct question to them on that. Its something that we learned very early on doing this in a containment situation, power efficiency is best spent getting larger air handlers to move the air, as opposed to letting the individual units run the 120mm / 90mm fans to circulate air. Plus if they do, the event I described above occurs, you end up with a massive blow-back that causes your units to cook.
In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.
Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.
In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.
Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.
I expect Cointerra learned this in spades when they were using the C7 Data Center folks to host their equipment. It appears that classical Data Center management and infrastructure are not optimal for a Bitcoin mining operation. Way overkill in many ways, including costs.
January 14, 2015, 02:38:05 PM
yes I read all of that, that's why I was posting the direct question to them on that. Its something that we learned very early on doing this in a containment situation, power efficiency is best spent getting larger air handlers to move the air, as opposed to letting the individual units run the 120mm / 90mm fans to circulate air. Plus if they do, the event I described above occurs, you end up with a massive blow-back that causes your units to cook.
In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.
Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.
In a non containment scenario, the airflow is just too difficult to direct most of the time and you end up having a lot of hot spots, even with moving the physical equipment around. I've been doing some consulting and looking at private firms designs and ways to improve them, that's why its really interested in everyone else design.
Not saying the design is flawed, more of saying that Bitcoin heat generation is very different than standard IT equipment to look at.
January 14, 2015, 02:08:25 PM
Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
#2 - Hot spots. We actually have a *lot* of control over the power and heat density of our equipment. We can respond to hot spots not only by adjusting cooling, but also by adjusting miner's physical locations and/or densities, something datacenters cannot do.
Based on your pictures it doesn't look like you have the ability to control direct / localized regions they way you describe. While you might be able to adjust cooling capacity to a particular area, the effect is cumulative. It really comes down to gross airflow, and what you're describing doesn't directly correlate to the individual miners CFM flow - that add up to be a lot more than you think. For example 250 S5 units have a CFM cumulative effect of 30k CFM, only pulling about 100kw, calculate that at a megawatt level, 300,000 CFM worth of airflow generated by S5's for 1 MW of power.... If you can create a wind tunnel effect, and have 300k CFM being generated by larger blowers (more efficient than 250 - 90mm fans) you can reduce the amount of power draw and rely on larger units.
It also means customers units stay cooler and work more efficiently.
Just hoping you engineering team considered this on the design for your circulation of the airflow.... Perhaps I'm wrong and you've modeled this more, just going off of what I saw in the pictures.
I am not affiliated with ASICSPACE just copying something from an Earlier post it seems to me with he amount of money they would have to invest into this property they would have thought this through. If you go to the second page of this thread there is a lot of information from them on cooling arrangements as well as BTCtalk members suggestions.
January 14, 2015, 01:56:09 PM
Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
#2 - Hot spots. We actually have a *lot* of control over the power and heat density of our equipment. We can respond to hot spots not only by adjusting cooling, but also by adjusting miner's physical locations and/or densities, something datacenters cannot do.
Based on your pictures it doesn't look like you have the ability to control direct / localized regions they way you describe. While you might be able to adjust cooling capacity to a particular area, the effect is cumulative. It really comes down to gross airflow, and what you're describing doesn't directly correlate to the individual miners CFM flow - that add up to be a lot more than you think. For example 250 S5 units have a CFM cumulative effect of 30k CFM, only pulling about 100kw, calculate that at a megawatt level, 300,000 CFM worth of airflow generated by S5's for 1 MW of power.... If you can create a wind tunnel effect, and have 300k CFM being generated by larger blowers (more efficient than 250 - 90mm fans) you can reduce the amount of power draw and rely on larger units.
It also means customers units stay cooler and work more efficiently.
Just hoping you engineering team considered this on the design for your circulation of the airflow.... Perhaps I'm wrong and you've modeled this more, just going off of what I saw in the pictures.
January 14, 2015, 01:01:36 PM
Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
#2 - Hot spots. We actually have a *lot* of control over the power and heat density of our equipment. We can respond to hot spots not only by adjusting cooling, but also by adjusting miner's physical locations and/or densities, something datacenters cannot do.
January 14, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
Fascinating, but this system is not going to have a pressurized hot air / cold air isle containment? Your airflow may have potential issues, have you considered the combined CFM of the individual miners creating static pressure bubbles?
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
One way we overcame a lot of our cooling issues was simply tripling the average CFM to KW standard that most data-centers use. By removing heat rapidly from the environment (think wind tunnel) we have had 0 cooling issues. How have you accomplished this or expect to accomplish this in your open floor / white-space model? Hot-spots still exist, and blow back is your biggest enemy (when miners pulling air into hot air isle exceed CFM airflow of supply) they basically then push hot air back into cold isle and suck it in again (thermal loop). You won't notice this until you start to get to at least 50% capacity. Just wondering how you guys deal with that aspect.
January 14, 2015, 10:32:22 AM
This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!
We're in Washington state, USA!
Made in 'Murica.
Just out of curiosity when do you think you have covered your investment and expenses at these prices?
January 13, 2015, 04:42:41 PM
This looks pretty cool actually. Where is this located(country wise)? Someone should set something like this up down in Australia!
Power costs are much higher from what I heard in australia probably why this hasnt happened yet. In Washington state theyre paying somewhere between 0.02 usd and 0.04 usd per KWH in australia the cheapest power ive heard of is at least double the 0.04 usdWe pay .21 per kw down in Aus. That is residential. Not sure if you can get cheaper power on industrial or business contracts/packages.
Yeahit's crazy the prices in different parts of the world!
That's why places like ASICSPACE are good for the community because 30.5(days in a month)*24(Hours in a day)=A 1Kw machine using 732Kwh/Month
Your power cost $161
Your Power cost @ ASICSPACE as low as $80/Month
Much higher chance of ROI!
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