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Topic: PinIdea.io x11 asics - page 2. (Read 6101 times)

legendary
Activity: 3248
Merit: 1072
March 01, 2017, 12:21:50 PM
#32
move to baikal, stray away from the dark side of x11

Have you used any pinidea gear? I think there are pros and cons to both companies, they each fill a different niche in the mining community.

So far I've had the opportunity to try both the du1 and the dr3 and have mostly good things to say about my experiences.

I'll write out a proper comparison and maybe even some guides once I'm able to get my hands on a few mini's.

 i have never tried the dr3, i have tried dr1 and du1

i like baikal multi algo, and at least they have products in stock Cheesy

btw when x17 will be added to baikal?
legendary
Activity: 1894
Merit: 1087
March 01, 2017, 12:19:04 PM
#31
true, they make one after you pay them. Would recomended Baikal over it, any time in a day.

they dont make them after you have bought them, they are just  flat out sold out
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
March 01, 2017, 06:04:27 AM
#30
true, they make one after you pay them. Would recomended Baikal over it, any time in a day.
legendary
Activity: 1894
Merit: 1087
March 01, 2017, 04:37:59 AM
#29
move to baikal, stray away from the dark side of x11

Have you used any pinidea gear? I think there are pros and cons to both companies, they each fill a different niche in the mining community.

So far I've had the opportunity to try both the du1 and the dr3 and have mostly good things to say about my experiences.

I'll write out a proper comparison and maybe even some guides once I'm able to get my hands on a few mini's.

 i have never tried the dr3, i have tried dr1 and du1

i like baikal multi algo, and at least they have products in stock Cheesy

I wonder if the dr3 could be patched for multi-algo or even a nicehash/multialgo setup so you can get the best of both worlds. It has a built in controller and an update-able OS

Having products available is definitely one of the pro's, a pipe dream would have me comparing the baikal mega and the dr3 but that's a few months away at least.

The real downside of the du1 is not it's price, but the minimum order size. I think they'd sell like hotcakes if you could buy 1 at a time. Ton's of folks could run a single usb du1 but 5 of them require additional infrastructure, like buying hubs that aren't properly built for the power draw. Plus half a bitcoin could almost get you 2 baikal mini's.

Lowering the initial buy-in cost allows more people to get involved.

Let me know if you ever want to sell your pinidea hardware maybe we could work something out.

products are never in stock at pinidea
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 501
February 18, 2017, 08:14:15 PM
#28
move to baikal, stray away from the dark side of x11

Have you used any pinidea gear? I think there are pros and cons to both companies, they each fill a different niche in the mining community.

So far I've had the opportunity to try both the du1 and the dr3 and have mostly good things to say about my experiences.

I'll write out a proper comparison and maybe even some guides once I'm able to get my hands on a few mini's.

 i have never tried the dr3, i have tried dr1 and du1

i like baikal multi algo, and at least they have products in stock Cheesy

I wonder if the dr3 could be patched for multi-algo or even a nicehash/multialgo setup so you can get the best of both worlds. It has a built in controller and an update-able OS

Having products available is definitely one of the pro's, a pipe dream would have me comparing the baikal mega and the dr3 but that's a few months away at least.

The real downside of the du1 is not it's price, but the minimum order size. I think they'd sell like hotcakes if you could buy 1 at a time. Ton's of folks could run a single usb du1 but 5 of them require additional infrastructure, like buying hubs that aren't properly built for the power draw. Plus half a bitcoin could almost get you 2 baikal mini's.

Lowering the initial buy-in cost allows more people to get involved.

Let me know if you ever want to sell your pinidea hardware maybe we could work something out.
legendary
Activity: 1894
Merit: 1087
February 18, 2017, 07:30:25 PM
#27
move to baikal, stray away from the dark side of x11

Have you used any pinidea gear? I think there are pros and cons to both companies, they each fill a different niche in the mining community.

So far I've had the opportunity to try both the du1 and the dr3 and have mostly good things to say about my experiences.

I'll write out a proper comparison and maybe even some guides once I'm able to get my hands on a few mini's.

 i have never tried the dr3, i have tried dr1 and du1

i like baikal multi algo, and at least they have products in stock Cheesy
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 501
February 18, 2017, 07:02:35 PM
#26
move to baikal, stray away from the dark side of x11

Have you used any pinidea gear? I think there are pros and cons to both companies, they each fill a different niche in the mining community.

So far I've had the opportunity to try both the du1 and the dr3 and have mostly good things to say about my experiences.

I'll write out a proper comparison and maybe even some guides once I'm able to get my hands on a few mini's.
legendary
Activity: 1894
Merit: 1087
February 18, 2017, 04:28:54 PM
#25
move to baikal, stray away from the dark side of x11
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
February 17, 2017, 08:08:19 PM
#24
To OP, when not just buy Baikal? Respectable maker and can mine 6 different algos and etc. Now even have group buy.

What the guy said in the post above this one pretty well answers that.  When I purchased it BTC was under $1000.  Baikal is expensive.  Yes Baikal does do the other algos but ROI on this unit is like 4-6 months which is way better than you can get for BTC miners these days.  Too bad they sold out, I wanted more.

Just FYI for anyone who gets one, there seems to be a bug with the DNS server setting where it appears not to update the DNS setting when you change from one static IP to another.  So for example when it arrives and has IP 192.168.1.200 if you just change the IP, gateway, and DNS and keep it on static it seems like it doesn't really change the DNS because with mine it can't resolve pools when I do this if I move to another network.  If you change it to DHCP, find it on the network, then change it back to static it seems to work ok after that.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
February 15, 2017, 12:23:41 PM
#23
mine arrived yesterday for those still skeptical. not horrible considering the chinese new year. on a side note couldnt get it set up for a while becasue the deafult ip is set at 192.168.1.200 and my router was in setup in a different range.  All is well now though with no bad asics  Grin

How do you like it compared to other asics? I have one arriving some day as well.

For the price (.72 btc )  and speed offered there isnt really a comparison needed with the other x11 asics.  It is much louder that the baikal mini miner I have but that is to be expected. The setup was easy and no problems running 24/7 so far. Would order more if they werent sold out.  The amazon user selling them for $1400 usd seems a little steep.
newbie
Activity: 39
Merit: 0
February 15, 2017, 03:01:41 AM
#22
To OP, when not just buy Baikal? Respectable maker and can mine 6 different algos and etc. Now even have group buy.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 501
February 14, 2017, 08:20:04 PM
#21
mine arrived yesterday for those still skeptical. not horrible considering the chinese new year. on a side note couldnt get it set up for a while becasue the deafult ip is set at 192.168.1.200 and my router was in setup in a different range.  All is well now though with no bad asics  Grin

How do you like it compared to other asics? I have one arriving some day as well.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
February 14, 2017, 12:18:20 PM
#20
mine arrived yesterday for those still skeptical. not horrible considering the chinese new year. on a side note couldnt get it set up for a while becasue the deafult ip is set at 192.168.1.200 and my router was in setup in a different range.  All is well now though with no bad asics  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1174
Merit: 1001
January 29, 2017, 01:45:00 PM
#19
Great, thanks for reporting!
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
January 29, 2017, 01:33:12 PM
#18
The web interface has some quirks (and one bug) that kind of tripped me up on the setup.

When you type the user name and password on the login page, the enter key on your keyboard won't log you in, you have to click the button on the page.  The pages will auto-refresh every minute indefinitely but if you click between pages you will be logged out after about 2 minutes.  So basically, after 2 minutes no matter what you click on, you will be logged out, but if you just leave any of the pages open it will auto-update that page every minute forever.



I circled a of couple things in green above.  

First, the Internet Status never changes from "Disconnect".  This seems to be a bug although I am not sure what it is trying to do to determine that. I tried both static and dynamic IP for the miner and tried different DNS servers.  It may be a DNS resolution issue where it just can't resolve something it is looking for but if that is the case google DNS can't resolve it either.  This in combination with some other early configurations I made had me thinking the thing was broken initially.

Second, the 30 second hashrate (and possibly the 5 minute hashrate) seems to be a calculated value.  It may also be that the hashrate graph is based on calculated values.  Initially I had just given the miner a more or less random difficulty through use of the password on the pool I was using.  I set the difficulty to 1000 which is apparently astronomically high for x11 so my 30 second hashrate was always zero.  I didn't wait a full 5 minutes to see if that one changed but basically the high difficulty combined with the Internet Status made me think the miner wasn't working at all because it never reported any hashrate.  You can see in my screen shot I am on miningpoolhub and the vardiff sometimes gives me a difficulty high enough that I don't send a share within 30 seconds and when that happens the 30 second hashrate as reported in the web interface will show 0.0.  Watching this for a bit is what had me conclude it is a calculated value because sometimes it will show something like 2000 also.  I am used to asic miners that show the actual number of hashes being done by the hashing engine rather than calculating a value based on submitted shares so this is a bit weird.  

As I say, it seems possible that the 5 minute hashrate and the graphs are similarly based on calculated values too.  The graph has a lot of variance, sometimes going as high as 1000.  I have circled the line for 600 which is what the miner is advertised at but you can see that some of the graph lines are under 400 as well.  It seems to average about 540ish on MPH.  It averaged 550ish on nicehash.  Not terrible but not exactly 600.  There is a slider for chip freq and it says the default is 420 but was set to 470 when the miner arrived.  So it was already OC'd to the max setting before they shipped it.  I haven't tried lowering this at all.  The temps are not high at all in comparison with other electronics (GPU's, CPU's, other ASIC's) and the temp of the air at the exhaust end is just mildly warm and not hot either.  I am curious however if the OC is reducing hashrate at all since sometimes I have seen that on antminers where you get a benefit from OC up to a point and then it starts going down as you go higher still so I will probably lower this and see what it does.



It appears I have one bad chip.  The vast majority of invalids come from that one chip.  If the difficulty is lower, as it is on nicehash, then there are even more HW failures and that chip will actually show in red.  With the higher diff on MPH it seems to behave better.  As you can see though it still gives more good shares than bad.
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
January 29, 2017, 12:50:35 PM
#17
I know wlefever asked for pictures but I think it is unnecessary since the pictures on the website already show it: https://shop.pinidea.io/index.php/product/asic-x11-miner-dr3/

One thing to note is that the ethernet port is pretty close to the casing so a shielded cable doesn't really fit.  I might have been able to force it but I have more cables so I just used one with the cheaper end.  There is a DR2 setup tutorial here: https://www.eastshore.xyz/tutorial-x11-asic-miner-pinidea-dr2-450mh-335w-dash-miner/

The DR3 is almost exactly the same.  One difference though is that the power connectors are on the top (which you can see in pics from the pinidea.io website) which looks like a good change.  

It's pretty heavy for the size.  It is shorter than an antminer S9 but I think it might be slightly heavier.  The fans are loud but the air exhaust is not really that hot, especially compared to other asic miners I have.  I haven't turned the fans down at all though since I don't care.  I have an environment where I can run them loud but there is a fan setting in the web interface.  It is just a drop down with settings labelled LV1, LV2, and LV3.  It arrived set to LV3 so I have left it that way.

I am using a 750W PSU but I will probably try and use a smaller wattage unit tomorrow if I can find one that is around 500W.  I am not sure if I have one or not, I know I have a bunch lower than that but I would like to see if it runs the same on a smaller PSU.  I do not have a wattage meter so I can't check what it is using.

The end with the ethernet connector is actually what I would call the back since that is the air exhaust end.  That seems backwards compared to most miners I have owned before but not a big deal at all.

The web interface for the DR3 looks identical to the screen shots of the DR2 in the setup tutorial linked above.  I will make a post with some more details about that.
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
January 27, 2017, 06:15:35 PM
#16
I got the miner.  It has some miner issues and quirks but it is hashing.  I am not sure if miningpoolhub vardiff is causing a problem or not but the hashrate seems to fluctuate a lot.  It hits the 600 MH/s it was sold as but it also drops to like 100 or 200.  It has averaged about 450 for the last half hour.  I ran it on NH for a bit too and it seemed more stable but I kind of wanted to mine DASH.  I'll play with it for a couple days and then give some more impressions in the thread.
sr. member
Activity: 703
Merit: 272
January 27, 2017, 11:21:15 AM
#15
how long between purchase and shipping notification?  I ordered one 20th of January and nothing yet. All I have is a confirmation and order number.

I think it was 8 days between the day I ordered and the day they printed the label and sent the shipping notification.  

if you go into the dash forums, it seems the guy hasn't posted since may.

https://www.dash.org/forum/topic/hardware-discussions-asic-gpu-cpu.101/
legendary
Activity: 1726
Merit: 1018
January 27, 2017, 07:29:15 AM
#14
how long between purchase and shipping notification?  I ordered one 20th of January and nothing yet. All I have is a confirmation and order number.

I think it was 8 days between the day I ordered and the day they printed the label and sent the shipping notification. 
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
January 27, 2017, 03:32:34 AM
#13
how long between purchase and shipping notification?  I ordered one 20th of January and nothing yet. All I have is a confirmation and order number.

Maybe you got unlucky due the chinese new-year, they stop almost everything in this time.
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