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Quote from: fortunecrypto on December 19, 2021, 07:29:00 AM

Quote from: pieppiep on December 19, 2021, 07:01:16 AM

I am worried for those who use a script or bot because they may not control the money they use to place the bet, even if they already set the amount they will use and how many times the bot will run. There is no guarantee that the bot will run as we want because the casino will know and catch those people and ban those accounts. I wonder what will happen to him and we hope he can come back here to tell the next about the script to see if he can win big money or screw up.

OP is creating a new bot for his gambling activity, we are not sure if the casino will allow the kind of bot that he is going to use because t is still in the testing period, there's a lot of risks in creating your own bot for all we know he can get his account ban and casino could mark his account as a cheater, we all know casinos will not allow cheating the system.

If the casino doesn't know if their user uses a bot, @OP will be okay using his bot but I doubt that will last long because the casino will know sooner or later and will ban his account. The banning of his account will be the first risk that he can get, while the second risk will be spending the money because when the bot can run by itself, he may not watch the bot instead try to do other things. The big risk he can get is banning the account and closing it as soon as possible when the casino knows he is cheating.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on December 19, 2021, 11:38:56 AM

I think most people associate gambling with mathematics due to the probability of winning on a certain round. Though some may be arguably accurate, I still doubt that there may be an application or solution that would give you absolute results.

Playing dice, on the other hand, totally relies on luck due to its nature being primarily random. Unlike card games where you can at least minimize the risks or somehow predict the cards, in dice the only factor that you can derive such is from the moment you throw it on the table.

Probably most relevant if it was a physical game would be physics, in theory you can calculate the bias in a game even roulette wheels can develop hot patches on the wheel where its more likely to land then others. There is inevitable wear and repeated observation of results give a probability to the outcome so physics and maths can become relevant. Someone in London took a laser to a Casino to precisely measure all movements of a roulette wheel and was able to realistically map out better odds to bet with then just a straight guess. The casino sued but was found to have no clause against advanced equipment in this way so the winnings were valid despite the advantage.
Dice online is much harder to do anything like this, most of the time most of us would be kidding ourselves to imagine we influence the game to our advantage. The very best strategy is to manage money efficiently and take profits as said, quit while you ahead as every game has a cost to play its not free or supposed to be .

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Quote from: dustboy on December 19, 2021, 07:17:35 PM

Never heard any case when a player is get banned because of using bot. Bot is just a bot, a modified betting system with more options/feature compared to the available betting system in the site. Can you please mention a name of casino that mark account as cheater because the account using bot? Bot cant beat the house, there is no math formula that can beat the house so how can a casino mark account as cheater?

I also never heard concrete cases that an account was banned in casinos, only rumors.

But I believe that the confusion is caused, for example, by the existence of sites like freebitco.in that distribute free coins from time to time.
I've seen bots to automate these claims, and then yes... it's illegal, because the "player" is getting something from the house without taking any risk.
And in this case, accounts have already been banned.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on December 19, 2021, 07:29:00 AM

Quote from: pieppiep on December 19, 2021, 07:01:16 AM

I am worried for those who use a script or bot because they may not control the money they use to place the bet, even if they already set the amount they will use and how many times the bot will run. There is no guarantee that the bot will run as we want because the casino will know and catch those people and ban those accounts. I wonder what will happen to him and we hope he can come back here to tell the next about the script to see if he can win big money or screw up.

OP is creating a new bot for his gambling activity, we are not sure if the casino will allow the kind of bot that he is going to use because t is still in the testing period, there's a lot of risks in creating your own bot for all we know he can get his account ban and casino could mark his account as a cheater, we all know casinos will not allow cheating the system.

Never heard any case when a player is get banned because of using bot. Bot is just a bot, a modified betting system with more options/feature compared to the available betting system in the site. Can you please mention a name of casino that mark account as cheater because the account using bot? Bot cant beat the house, there is no math formula that can beat the house so how can a casino mark account as cheater?

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Quote from: seleme on December 19, 2021, 02:42:22 PM

I always run away with profit, it is matter of time to lose the bankroll due to the house edge. Having a lucky run means we have to take it and come back another day, otherwise, the house edge will kick in and the result will be same.

Very good thinking and your luck is pretty good at it.
it doesn't matter what method or method is used but it seems luck is the most influential and regarding strategy maybe that is a good thing for you to do but it will not affect some people if their luck is very bad

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Quote from: seleme on December 19, 2021, 02:42:22 PM

I always run away with profit, it is matter of time to lose the bankroll due to the house edge. Having a lucky run means we have to take it and come back another day, otherwise, the house edge will kick in and the result will be same.

That's right.

You may win today but tomorrow is another story. You can win again and have that streak whether you'll be hitting your goal and stay safe with your bankroll.

But it's always a different thing even if you run a script or just go with automatic rolls. You'll never know what's next for you since you're playing a game that's totally based on luck.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on December 19, 2021, 01:07:05 PM

Quote from: qwertyup23 on December 19, 2021, 11:38:56 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on December 19, 2021, 11:34:28 AM

See I remember watching video of a YouTuber who already did all of that, he made the arguments as well at least and he did not really gain anything and did loose a lot as well, therefore I do think you should have tried to look at the videos before tho.

Understanding mathematics and being good at gambling is quite different, counting cards is one of the thing that you can compare to it but here in the dice using the martingale which does not work and we all know that, that's why I think it would be futile making analysis regarding that.

I think most people associate gambling with mathematics due to the probability of winning on a certain round. Though some may be arguably accurate, I still doubt that there may be an application or solution that would give you absolute results.

Playing dice, on the other hand, totally relies on luck due to its nature being primarily random. Unlike card games where you can at least minimize the risks or somehow predict the cards, in dice the only factor that you can derive such is from the moment you throw it on the table.

The analysis of comparing gambling to mathematics because it shares the same probability outcome is only a precision and can never be accurate as the outcome is so unpredictable. Playing dice is strictly on probability as the outcome remains unpredictable. Chances of winning is only based on how skilled the player is with outcomes

You don't need to be skilled to play dice and you can't always predict the outcome. Don't forget that when playing dice on a gambling platform, the house determines the outcome not the player which is obvious should not be always considered as luck which needs more funds to catch out big. In fact gambling should not be taken as major source of income because it's risky.

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Quote from: vandread on December 17, 2021, 09:26:37 PM

Since the martingale system was a no go, I decided to use another pattern which to my surprize performed much better than the martingale.
Then I ran a couple million simulations and found that the max loss in a row rarely exceeds 15, so I decided to take the loss at 16 losses. And with a bit of luck you will earn the money back.

I'm betting 0.0005 dogecoin as a basebet, so as you can imagine it doesn't make an awful lot of money short-term, but 150-200 dogecoin a day isn't that bad. I'm building up the bankroll so I can bet more and more with time.

So can you say EUREKA with your new find method to beat dice game, remember the house edge will always beat the system you implement because it reads the algorithm but if after hundred of testing and it's still effective then you are lucky to find a system that you can treat as a cash cow, you have to keep it to yourself until you made a lot of money and you are generous to share it because if many people are using this method it will get busted.

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Quote from: uneng on December 19, 2021, 01:06:55 PM

Quote from: qwertyup23 on December 19, 2021, 11:38:56 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on December 19, 2021, 11:34:28 AM

See I remember watching video of a YouTuber who already did all of that, he made the arguments as well at least and he did not really gain anything and did loose a lot as well, therefore I do think you should have tried to look at the videos before tho.

Understanding mathematics and being good at gambling is quite different, counting cards is one of the thing that you can compare to it but here in the dice using the martingale which does not work and we all know that, that's why I think it would be futile making analysis regarding that.

I think most people associate gambling with mathematics due to the probability of winning on a certain round. Though some may be arguably accurate, I still doubt that there may be an application or solution that would give you absolute results.

Playing dice, on the other hand, totally relies on luck due to its nature being primarily random. Unlike card games where you can at least minimize the risks or somehow predict the cards, in dice the only factor that you can derive such is from the moment you throw it on the table.

Mathematics can only show gamblers they aren't going to win on long run when playing dice and for the smartest ones math can be useful when managing the bankroll in a more efficient way, and that is all.

Actually dice game use mathematics against gamblers to have a small advantage over them, through the house edge and that is an immutable fact.

Usually when gamblers are newbies they really think they can defeat the house by using methods like the one presented in OP. Once they acquire some experience these thoughts and beliefs disappear.

I always run away with profit, it is matter of time to lose the bankroll due to the house edge. Having a lucky run means we have to take it and come back another day, otherwise, the house edge will kick in and the result will be same. Having a decent bankroll means, you have to focus on the probability on small multipliers. Not like some guys who buys Chaos Crew bonuses for 20k$ after getting $40k balance. It is meaningless since the slots RTP will never let you run as winner in the long run.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on December 19, 2021, 11:38:56 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on December 19, 2021, 11:34:28 AM

See I remember watching video of a YouTuber who already did all of that, he made the arguments as well at least and he did not really gain anything and did loose a lot as well, therefore I do think you should have tried to look at the videos before tho.

Understanding mathematics and being good at gambling is quite different, counting cards is one of the thing that you can compare to it but here in the dice using the martingale which does not work and we all know that, that's why I think it would be futile making analysis regarding that.

I think most people associate gambling with mathematics due to the probability of winning on a certain round. Though some may be arguably accurate, I still doubt that there may be an application or solution that would give you absolute results.

Playing dice, on the other hand, totally relies on luck due to its nature being primarily random. Unlike card games where you can at least minimize the risks or somehow predict the cards, in dice the only factor that you can derive such is from the moment you throw it on the table.

The analysis of comparing gambling to mathematics because it shares the same probability outcome is only a precision and can never be accurate as the outcome is so unpredictable. Playing dice is strictly on probability as the outcome remains unpredictable. Chances of winning is only based on how skilled the player is with outcomes

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on December 19, 2021, 11:38:56 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on December 19, 2021, 11:34:28 AM

See I remember watching video of a YouTuber who already did all of that, he made the arguments as well at least and he did not really gain anything and did loose a lot as well, therefore I do think you should have tried to look at the videos before tho.

Understanding mathematics and being good at gambling is quite different, counting cards is one of the thing that you can compare to it but here in the dice using the martingale which does not work and we all know that, that's why I think it would be futile making analysis regarding that.

I think most people associate gambling with mathematics due to the probability of winning on a certain round. Though some may be arguably accurate, I still doubt that there may be an application or solution that would give you absolute results.

Playing dice, on the other hand, totally relies on luck due to its nature being primarily random. Unlike card games where you can at least minimize the risks or somehow predict the cards, in dice the only factor that you can derive such is from the moment you throw it on the table.

Mathematics can only show gamblers they aren't going to win on long run when playing dice and for the smartest ones math can be useful when managing the bankroll in a more efficient way, and that is all.

Actually dice game use mathematics against gamblers to have a small advantage over them, through the house edge and that is an immutable fact.

Usually when gamblers are newbies they really think they can defeat the house by using methods like the one presented in OP. Once they acquire some experience these thoughts and beliefs disappear.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 18, 2021, 04:43:20 PM

Quote from: Alanaz on December 18, 2021, 12:35:45 PM

In my opinion this will only worsen your loss, this is one that makes you lose money if you believe, try changing your mindset because gambling is done just for fun, not to find wealth there. As for the profit you get, it is the bonus you receive and it is your luck.
if you feel it helps then do it but I don't recommend it because it will only increase your wishful thinking to be able to win

in short, even if he devised a different script, different from martingale, he may still end up losing because dice is luck-based game. how many times have we seen here threads trying to formulate a strategy in dice? aside from that, there's HE. but of course, everyone is free to create his own algo on this game, and try it for himself if it will work.

That's right, even if we design a script and think it is the most up-to-date, it's actually just wishful thinking because there's no way we can beat the gambling house.
Their initial concept from the start was that no matter how strong the gambler was, the one who would win and profit was the gambling house.
and we have to be able to look in that direction because basically gambling is done just for fun

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Quote from: fiulpro on December 19, 2021, 11:34:28 AM

See I remember watching video of a YouTuber who already did all of that, he made the arguments as well at least and he did not really gain anything and did loose a lot as well, therefore I do think you should have tried to look at the videos before tho.

Understanding mathematics and being good at gambling is quite different, counting cards is one of the thing that you can compare to it but here in the dice using the martingale which does not work and we all know that, that's why I think it would be futile making analysis regarding that.

I think most people associate gambling with mathematics due to the probability of winning on a certain round. Though some may be arguably accurate, I still doubt that there may be an application or solution that would give you absolute results.

Playing dice, on the other hand, totally relies on luck due to its nature being primarily random. Unlike card games where you can at least minimize the risks or somehow predict the cards, in dice the only factor that you can derive such is from the moment you throw it on the table.

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See I remember watching video of a YouTuber who already did all of that, he made the arguments as well at least and he did not really gain anything and did loose a lot as well, therefore I do think you should have tried to look at the videos before tho.

Understanding mathematics and being good at gambling is quite different, counting cards is one of the thing that you can compare to it but here in the dice using the martingale which does not work and we all know that, that's why I think it would be futile making analysis regarding that.

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Quote from: alegotardo on December 19, 2021, 06:36:05 AM

Quote from: vandread on December 17, 2021, 09:26:37 PM

I'm not a genious when it comes to math, but I'm using 150 dogecoin as "the bankroll" every day. Meaning if it does go bust I have to make up for it with some of my earnings vaulted.

Sorry to disappoint you, but this seems to be just another case of someone deluded into thinking they understand math and finding the secret formula for breaking any bookmaker.
All you'll get is to extend your illusion, because when the house edge the end result will always tend to ZERO, that's inevitable.
To profit from this the only way is... not to have resentment in betting your bankroll, risk high values and know how to stop when you win a big pot, otherwise everything will be returned to the house.

Exactly ! This strategy sounds too good to be true because OP says his strategy will never make any losses which can't be true.
It's obvious there can't be a strategy which guarantees to give out profits. Although there's no harm in trying out the bot but using it for long term would definitely be a bad idea.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on December 19, 2021, 07:29:00 AM

Quote from: pieppiep on December 19, 2021, 07:01:16 AM

I am worried for those who use a script or bot because they may not control the money they use to place the bet, even if they already set the amount they will use and how many times the bot will run. There is no guarantee that the bot will run as we want because the casino will know and catch those people and ban those accounts. I wonder what will happen to him and we hope he can come back here to tell the next about the script to see if he can win big money or screw up.

OP is creating a new bot for his gambling activity, we are not sure if the casino will allow the kind of bot that he is going to use because t is still in the testing period, there's a lot of risks in creating your own bot for all we know he can get his account ban and casino could mark his account as a cheater, we all know casinos will not allow cheating the system.

Using a bot is not cheating though. Most dice websites have a built-in dice bot which lets you create your own patterns anyway. The casino would be glad if you are you using a bot. It doesn't matter if it is your own bot or theirs. As long as you have the coins to wager, you are a good guy. They got the house edge. The more you play, the more likely you are going to lose. That's all matters.

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Quote from: pieppiep on December 19, 2021, 07:01:16 AM

I am worried for those who use a script or bot because they may not control the money they use to place the bet, even if they already set the amount they will use and how many times the bot will run. There is no guarantee that the bot will run as we want because the casino will know and catch those people and ban those accounts. I wonder what will happen to him and we hope he can come back here to tell the next about the script to see if he can win big money or screw up.

OP is creating a new bot for his gambling activity, we are not sure if the casino will allow the kind of bot that he is going to use because t is still in the testing period, there's a lot of risks in creating your own bot for all we know he can get his account ban and casino could mark his account as a cheater, we all know casinos will not allow cheating the system.

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Quote from: vandread on December 17, 2021, 09:26:37 PM

If someone wants to do the math or help me with the script or the project itself I'd be happy to share everything with you.

You are planning to create a bot that will let you win all the time using tampermonkey, looks like you are trying to game the system which I doubt will get you in trouble, casinos are smarter and they will not let you use a script to cheat the system, I have many coders selling script to win a dice game but buyer ends up getting scam because the bot was caught by the casino operators and ban those accounts.

I am worried for those who use a script or bot because they may not control the money they use to place the bet, even if they already set the amount they will use and how many times the bot will run. There is no guarantee that the bot will run as we want because the casino will know and catch those people and ban those accounts. I wonder what will happen to him and we hope he can come back here to tell the next about the script to see if he can win big money or screw up.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on December 19, 2021, 12:28:34 AM

Quote from: vandread on December 17, 2021, 09:26:37 PM

I'm betting 0.0005 dogecoin as a basebet, so as you can imagine it doesn't make an awful lot of money short-term, but 150-200 dogecoin a day isn't that bad. I'm building up the bankroll so I can bet more and more with time.

This must be just your imagination and you are talking about profits from dice gambling but I do see when you keep refilling your bankroll then you might be losing 150 to 200 dogecoins daily.

Just because, you set your base bet around lower side, you cannot end up in profits with your dicing. After few rolls, you will increase your base bet and then every aspects of usual/old way of gambling will start playing and finishing up your gambling in negative way.

You will never able to beat the house which must be the bitter truth every gambler refuses to agree. People who are able to understand this fact, will play dice without any plans but to enjoy their days.

That's the reality inside this game, you might have some day winning but in most cases you will lose a lot, whatever system you will use gambling owners will manage to beat you, they are aware and they will keep updating any lapses that you see from their house, sooner or
later you will find out that the system you are using is no longer useful.

Better to play the game with random strategy and keep the enjoyment until you will feel the adrenaline.

Win some or lose some, part of gambling as long as you can balance your bankroll well.

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Quote from: vandread on December 17, 2021, 09:26:37 PM

I'm not a genious when it comes to math, but I'm using 150 dogecoin as "the bankroll" every day. Meaning if it does go bust I have to make up for it with some of my earnings vaulted.

Sorry to disappoint you, but this seems to be just another case of someone deluded into thinking they understand math and finding the secret formula for breaking any bookmaker.
All you'll get is to extend your illusion, because when the house edge the end result will always tend to ZERO, that's inevitable.
To profit from this the only way is... not to have resentment in betting your bankroll, risk high values and know how to stop when you win a big pot, otherwise everything will be returned to the house.

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