Please help me to install epochtalk, I have zero idea about github

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Quote from: lulucrypto on March 11, 2020, 06:12:18 AM

Hello,

Yes that's what I thought I understood.

Otherwise, yes I had seen the talking topic of the Coinbistro forum

It reminds me that I would have to relaunch the Cryptos Currencies forum a little, but I don't have time for the moment Sad

That is OK, when/if you have time, the community is trying to debug the software, it's not an easy task for sure, but everyone can help and each hand in this is valuable. Here is the discussion thread, if you can contribute it will be great

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/if-we-want-a-proper-testing-of-epochtalk-we-need-at-least-the-beta-site-back-5225466

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Hello,

Yes that's what I thought I understood.

Otherwise, yes I had seen the talking topic of the Coinbistro forum

It reminds me that I would have to relaunch the Cryptos Currencies forum a little, but I don't have time for the moment Sad

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Quote from: lulucrypto on March 07, 2020, 05:55:19 PM

Good evening everyone,

First of all I sincerely apologize for the response time, since the end of 2019 / early 2020 I am very busy, which means that I have no time to go to the forum.

@iasenko told me about your subject, would you like me to help you install it ?

Hello lulu,

I think the OP gave up on this one. There is another project using epochtalk as well : https://coinbistro.com/ so I talked with the guys who set up the Epochtalk there and ask if they can make an installation guide for newbies. Here is the installation guide they created.

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Good evening everyone,

First of all I sincerely apologize for the response time, since the end of 2019 / early 2020 I am very busy, which means that I have no time to go to the forum.

@iasenko told me about your subject, would you like me to help you install it ?

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Quote from: TryNinja on February 06, 2020, 06:36:33 PM

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 06, 2020, 06:32:34 PM

So that's why it is important to make it more popular so it can be tested and improved.

You (and suchmoon) very likely already know that but just to make things clear for everyone reading: the best way of doing that right now is probably by using and bug testing Cryptos-Currencies.com (which uses epochtalk).

In addition to this one there is one more, https://coinbistro.com/ which was created by Cyrus and the recovery team. I wonder if there are other installations around which we haven't heard of yet.

Edit: I just ask them if someone can make a guidelines, or video on how to install Epochtalk fro newbies. Hope it will be more popular that way.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 06, 2020, 06:32:34 PM

So that's why it is important to make it more popular so it can be tested and improved.

You (and suchmoon) very likely already know that but just to make things clear for everyone reading: the best way of doing that right now is probably by using and bug testing Cryptos-Currencies.com (which uses epochtalk).

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Quote from: suchmoon on February 06, 2020, 06:20:18 PM

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 06, 2020, 06:09:35 PM

I wonder how can we popularize the project if its not well documented or misleading. Do we really need 10 more years to be completed?

Depends on what the goal is. If it's just to move Bitcointalk over to the new software then it doesn't really matter much if the docs are wonky, as long as theymos can figure out how to get it running. If the goal is to make it a popular discussion platform - I doubt that would ever happen even with excellent documentation. It's a niche product at best.

That's not an excuse to have wonky documentation and clunky installation process, just an observation.

If we talk about migration of bitcointalk.org to Epochtalk, according to theymos it won't happen until enough people have tested it. So that's why it is important to make it more popular so it can be tested and improved.
In reality, i don't think that Epochtalk is coming soon to the forum. Sad

Quote from: theymos on February 25, 2019, 07:28:23 PM

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In short: If you want the software quicker, go run your own forum with it, and work to get any problems or missing features you find resolved via bug reports, etc. This would increase public interest, provide much-needed testing, and I might even hire you to work on bitcointalk.org when we're ready to do the final transition here.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on February 06, 2020, 06:09:35 PM

I wonder how can we popularize the project if its not well documented or misleading. Do we really need 10 more years to be completed?

Depends on what the goal is. If it's just to move Bitcointalk over to the new software then it doesn't really matter much if the docs are wonky, as long as theymos can figure out how to get it running. If the goal is to make it a popular discussion platform - I doubt that would ever happen even with excellent documentation. It's a niche product at best.

That's not an excuse to have wonky documentation and clunky installation process, just an observation.

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Quote from: Side chain on February 04, 2020, 10:00:04 AM

Thanks everyone for responses and some guidance. I am not very familiar with js node and stuffs so I decided to go with the environment I know which is php mysql and installed SMF in for the project. Sooner or later I will come up with the URL and some discussion about it.

Smile!

Sad to hear that you gave up on the Epochtalk but of course if it's not well documented you can't do much about it.
I wonder how can we popularize the project if its not well documented or misleading. Do we really need 10 more years to be completed?

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Thanks everyone for responses and some guidance. I am not very familiar with js node and stuffs so I decided to go with the environment I know which is php mysql and installed SMF in for the project. Sooner or later I will come up with the URL and some discussion about it.

Smile!

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Quote from: Side chain on January 31, 2020, 09:57:24 AM

I thought finally I was able to figure out the command lines from the github README file but then when I was in $ yarn in the 2nd step of installation then I got stuck on here: https://i.imgur.com/ZVGFgyu.png

Just "yarn" is not a valid command, try: sudo apt update && sudo apt install --no-install-recommends yarn

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There's also another alternative if lulu has no time for it. I know Cyrus and the recovery team have lunched a epochtalk bases website called https://coinbistro.com
Maybe they can be of help. Try to PM one of them: alanst, 3dOOm, Rizzrack, Cyrus.
Ill look for a link.

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As others said, that readme is not up to date. Seems they did some further chages. Open an issue on their github and they'll advise you. Not sure how fast they reply in the weekend tho...

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Quote from: Side chain on January 31, 2020, 09:57:24 AM

I thought finally I was able to figure out the command lines from the github README file but then when I was in $ yarn in the 2nd step of installation then I got stuck on here: https://i.imgur.com/ZVGFgyu.png

I had that too but I don't recall what I did to get past it. I think bcrypt needs to be installed separately, not sure.

Quote from: Side chain on January 31, 2020, 09:57:24 AM

What is the extension of the index file on the web? As open source I was expecting PHP.

It's built on node.js so maybe index.js would be the "index file" but it's a completely different environment from PHP.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on January 31, 2020, 09:10:03 AM

The PM to Lulu was sent, also a copy to you as well.

Thank you very much. Appreciate the effort.

I thought finally I was able to figure out the command lines from the github README file but then when I was in $ yarn in the 2nd step of installation then I got stuck on here: https://i.imgur.com/ZVGFgyu.png

Quote from: suchmoon on January 31, 2020, 09:11:38 AM

And no, it's not PHP.

What is the extension of the index file on the web? As open source I was expecting PHP.

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Quote from: Side chain on January 31, 2020, 08:32:55 AM

Then here: http://epochtalk.org/docs.html

Don't use that. They switched from npm to yarn at some point and forgot to update the docs. Start over and follow the github README. The are still some inconsistencies there, I think some folder names are messed up. Plus you need a Postgres database - do you have that? The installation script requires admin privileges on Postgres, at which point I gave up on it with a loud "WTF". But it might work if you have an new empty Postgres install.

As I said, major PITA.

And no, it's not PHP.

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The PM to Lulu was sent, also a copy to you as well.

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I have done some studies (and turns out all gone wasted, I lost my patience) since I made this topic and it seems there are a lot of pieces of software needs to download and install like:
Git
node > I installed and no clue in which folder it was installed
npm > again installed it and no clue with the shell commands
and a lot of other things and I am really clueless.

Then here: http://epochtalk.org/docs.html
I was successful cloning the git file in number 1 at the installation steps by using the commend: $ git clone https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk.git
In number 2 I was able to Change directories using $ cd epochtalk but when tried $ npm install, I was getting some warning and really clueless again.

Honestly speaking I am not sure what to do here.

I have seen other people to run this in their own domain which means they were able to extract the files in a form may be which are with .php extension and mysql database format and things.

If they can provide the files and an empty database for me just to configure by my own then I think I will have more than enough or I will have to use SMF for the forum.

Thanks for your input @suchmoon

Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on January 31, 2020, 08:27:44 AM

I think you should ask lulucrypto for help.

Yes, I was looking for this user. Turns out I am unable to PM him. Can anyone be kind enough to PM him and point to this topic please.
Thanks iasenko.

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I think you should ask lulucrypto for help. He already have his Epochtalk up and running so I guess he is the right person to ask for guidelines. I had also plan to install it but seems that I won't have any free time for such things at home in the next 1-2 years.. If you manage to install it and run it please make a guide so everyone can benefit of

Good luck.

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Quote from: Side chain on January 31, 2020, 05:30:52 AM

Edit: This is the hosting package I have currently https://www.namecheap.com/hosting/shared/

As far as I can see this doesn't come with shell access and the ability to install your own software, so I don't think it will work for you.

Epochtalk is a major pain in the ass to install even on a VM so I wouldn't bother with it for your forum. Pick something that actually works in a shared hosting environment, like Vanilla (not an endorsement; google "PHP forum software" for yourself).

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