Topic: Please No (Hard) Drug Avatars (Read 2759 times)

Quote from: merve10495 on April 12, 2015, 11:48:53 PM

It is unfortunate that any avatar causes negative feelings, but I don't want to censor avatars that are offensive/disturbing to only a small minority of forum members. Many people will be negatively affected by many different images, and while banning each individual thing might not be a big deal, banning them all would make the avatar rules uncomfortably restrictive, I think.

Very well said. Because what happens next is the feminists come in here and let all sexist (read: boobs, asses, pretty women) avatars remove. Next you'll have the christians ask for removal of blasphemious pictures. And then the muslims walk in and demand the forum to be closed completely because it's against the Qoran...

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Quote from: merve10495 on April 12, 2015, 11:48:53 PM

Interesting topic... I had no idea avatars had such powers.

A local marketing company (name I won't release on here) did a study into anti-meth ads.
We had recovered meth addicts and current meth addicts together watching the videos (in separate sessions). The ads they were shown was a ~~serious~~ series of short 'anti-meth' ads which were suitable and ready to be published on television.

The test came to a halt because the videos of meth was and is enough to trigger a recovered addicts behaviors. We found this out because a group of them locked themselves in our bathrooms and decided to give into their cravings. (This set off the smoke alarms)

So yes. Images (and videos) even Anti-images are enough to trigger a reaction. They have huge power.

Please consider changing your avatar.

This is interesting. I always thought part of overcoming addiction was confronting your addiction. Where I'm from, advertisements for alcoholic beverages are shown on TV and supermarkets can openly sell beer and wine seemingly without regard to the possible effect this might have on recovering alcoholics. However, I'm not sure if their needs should take precedence over the majority of society. Banning these practices would probably inconvenience quite a lot of people and the same probably applies here. An overly restrictive avatar policy could conceivably cause more harm than good.

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Interesting topic... I had no idea avatars had such powers.

A local marketing company (name I won't release on here) did a study into anti-meth ads.
We had recovered meth addicts and current meth addicts together watching the videos (in separate sessions). The ads they were shown was a ~~serious~~ series of short 'anti-meth' ads which were suitable and ready to be published on television.

The test came to a halt because the videos of meth was and is enough to trigger a recovered addicts behaviors. We found this out because a group of them locked themselves in our bathrooms and decided to give into their cravings. (This set off the smoke alarms).

Where did these so-called 'recovering' addicts suddenly get their meth from? I don't buy this. I think if they were that weak or susceptible to their cravings it wouldn't take them much to relapse anyway. Why can't you name the marketing company?

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Interesting topic... I had no idea avatars had such powers.

A local marketing company (name I won't release on here) did a study into anti-meth ads.
We had recovered meth addicts and current meth addicts together watching the videos (in separate sessions). The ads they were shown was a ~~serious~~ series of short 'anti-meth' ads which were suitable and ready to be published on television.

The test came to a halt because the videos of meth was and is enough to trigger a recovered addicts behaviors. We found this out because a group of them locked themselves in our bathrooms and decided to give into their cravings. (This set off the smoke alarms)

So yes. Images (and videos) even Anti-images are enough to trigger a reaction. They have huge power.

Please consider changing your avatar.

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I get it, but I think you should see it as a step in the right direction. If this hasn't triggered a relapse it means you are to the point where you are strong enough to see this and keep in control. Each time you see it it will be easier and that is progress. I think your recovery should ultimately not depend on you never being exposed to the substance in any way as it will happens from time to time even if you try to avoid it. There is things you don't have control over, but how you react to them is entirely yours. Good luck, what you are doing is hard and you get my respect for giving it your best.

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Quote from: dewdeded on April 12, 2015, 08:50:18 AM

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Simple solution:
1. Install Adblock Plus (most have this already installed).
2. Right-click on offending avatar.
3. Choose "Block element" from the menu.
5. Problem solved; other avatars unaffected.

I'll do it for sure. My questions were about understanding what NSFL was. I got some of it...but, my post about it you partially capture with screenshot was deleted.

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I am going to block it. Thanks for all the good wishes.

Blocking is the best solution, though hopefully in the new forum we will be able to ignore individual avatars so you won't need to block the entire user or turn off all avatars.

Quote from: dewdeded on April 12, 2015, 08:50:18 AM

Additionally, there is a another untalked-of effect: it advertises hard drugs (in this example meth) to young kids or other easily manipulative people.

I don't really buy this. A kid isn't going to see an image of what he probably thinks is glass and suddenly subliminally think yum, drugs, I must buy some crystal meth. Even if they new what it was I doubt it'd make them interested in trying it but we can't be responsible for nannying everyone and if you've got kids that's up to the parents to effectively police though sheltering them from everything will probably do them more harm than good in the long run.

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I am going to block it. Thanks for all the good wishes.

Additionally, there is a another untalked-of effect: it advertises hard drugs (in this example meth) to young kids or other easily manipulative people.
(Even with very clever disclaimers like: "I DO NOT CONSENT". :-P)

---> It was just a friendly suggestion to improve the forum (rules).
[No try to censorship anything or "forcing views".]

Thank you.

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Quote from: AltcoinInvestor on April 12, 2015, 08:07:19 AM

I only see shattered glass on this guy's avatar. What the hell are you talking about?

Thats what we're talking about, the glass.

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I only see shattered glass on this guy's avatar. What the hell are you talking about?

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Quote from: shorena on April 12, 2015, 03:32:53 AM

Lets just assume for a second this is true.

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on April 12, 2015, 03:38:56 AM

I don't think that is plausible.

I rest my case.

What case? My point came after the above statement. I took your statement serious and asked why you would need to have a reminder on a public board instead of a more private place.

Quote from: redsn0w on April 12, 2015, 05:17:27 AM

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He can simple use ad block plus or similar to hide the view of a specific avatar, if there is only an "user complaint". I think theymos should receive a lot of "complaint" by the community and after he can 'act' but now it seems there is not the case.

IMHO neither of the pictures are NSFL. My understand of NSFL is something that watching alone would scar you. Typically rotten.com would be considered NSFL.

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Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on April 12, 2015, 04:44:09 AM

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Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on April 12, 2015, 04:44:09 AM

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He can simple use ad block plus or similar to hide the view of a specific avatar, if there is only an "user complaint". I think theymos should receive a lot of "complaint" by the community and after he can 'act' but now it seems there is not the case.

Sorry, but i don't see only 1 user complaint at least after re-reading the last 3 pages. I see a few more. However, I think that following the re-introduction of avatars some users are simply trying to test how much extreme/illegal/objectionable/etc images are allowed to stay.
Personally, I would like a clear boundary set by admins and put among the sticky rules.

The community majority should disapprove that avatar not one or only few users, however the solution to that problem has been given *adblock*, insert the link of the user avatar in the filter, confirm and reload the page... et voila! The censorship is not a good thing and there is always a "second way" to resolve the problem.

I may agree with you that having to resort to censorship is at best a failure; however, i think we really need a better explanation of what a NSFL image is. Adblock could be a nice & wonderful ad-hoc temporary solution to de-escalate the whole issue but this would not explain what a NSFL image is. Otherwise, we'll see similar avatar & complaint thread popping up everyday with ever worse images & moods. As marcotheminer said before: Here we go again..
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Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on April 12, 2015, 04:15:28 AM

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He can simple use ad block plus or similar to hide the view of a specific avatar, if there is only an "user complaint". I think theymos should receive a lot of "complaint" by the community and after he can 'act' but now it seems there is not the case.

Sorry, but i don't see only 1 user complaint at least after re-reading the last 3 pages. I see a few more. However, I think that following the re-introduction of avatars some users are simply trying to test how much extreme/illegal/objectionable/etc images are allowed to stay.
Personally, I would like a clear boundary set by admins and put among the sticky rules.

The community majority should disapprove that avatar not one or only few users, however the solution to that problem has been given *adblock*, insert the link of the user avatar in the filter, confirm and reload the page... et voila! The censorship is not a good thing and there is always a "second way" to resolve the problem.

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Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on April 12, 2015, 04:15:28 AM

Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on April 12, 2015, 04:15:28 AM

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He can simple use ad block plus or similar to hide the view of a specific avatar, if there is only an "user complaint". I think theymos should receive a lot of "complaint" by the community and after he can 'act' but now it seems there is not the case.

Sorry, but i don't see only 1 user complaint at least after re-reading the last 3 pages. I see a few more. However, I think that following the re-introduction of avatars some users are simply trying to test how much extreme/illegal/objectionable/etc images are allowed to stay.
Personally, I would like a clear boundary set by admins and put among the sticky rules.

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Quote from: theymos on April 04, 2015, 12:21:37 AM

It is unfortunate that any avatar causes negative feelings, but I don't want to censor avatars that are offensive/disturbing to only a small minority of forum members. Many people will be negatively affected by many different images, and while banning each individual thing might not be a big deal, banning them all would make the avatar rules uncomfortably restrictive, I think.

I can understand your position and I would like a friendly agreement could be reached between OP and smaragda; however, I just wandering what a NSFL avatar should be to be deemed as such. As per your post a NSFL avatar image is not allowed, since illegal drugs while being of course illegal are also dangerous to health and obviously not safe for life I'm just guessing what is a NSFL content?

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2) Is NSFL allowed? [NSFL = Not Safe For Life]

No.
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Are the following NSFL?

1)

2)

3)

4)

5)

6)

He can simple use ad block plus or similar to hide the view of a specific avatar, if there is only an "user complaint". I think theymos should receive a lot of "complaint" by the community and after he can 'act' but now it seems there is not the case.

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Quote from: theymos on April 04, 2015, 12:21:37 AM

It is unfortunate that any avatar causes negative feelings, but I don't want to censor avatars that are offensive/disturbing to only a small minority of forum members. Many people will be negatively affected by many different images, and while banning each individual thing might not be a big deal, banning them all would make the avatar rules uncomfortably restrictive, I think.

I can understand your position and I would like a friendly agreement could be reached between OP and smaragda; however, I just wandering what a NSFL avatar should be to be deemed as such. As per your post a NSFL avatar image is not allowed, since illegal drugs while being of course illegal are also dangerous to health and obviously not safe for life I'm just guessing what is a NSFL content?

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2) Is NSFL allowed? [NSFL = Not Safe For Life]

No.
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Are the following NSFL?

1)

2)

3)

4)

5)

6)

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