Please No (Hard) Drug Avatars - page 2.

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Quote from: Wardrick on April 12, 2015, 02:58:07 AM

No, I'm not. I'm referring to the avatar you have for your account. That everyone can see including people such as the OP as well as other people not willing to make posts or threads about it. Your user title has little to do with anything. Its like showing a meth addict smoking a pipe saying "don't try this at home kids". Not trying to be an ass, but just have respect for other people.

What if I told you that I have a need to look at the crystals with a daily reminder of I DO NOT CONSENT in order to not relapse myself?

Lets just assume for a second this is true. This does not require you to do this in public now, does it? Could be your bathroom mirror, your desktop wallpaper or a 1000 different places.

Quote from: Quickseller on April 12, 2015, 03:12:27 AM

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Sure it is possible to use, among other things adblock to not see the specific avatar the OP is using, however it would be possible that he make a miner change to his avatar in the future and he would then again see the avatar, or someone else could download/use the sam avatar which would cause the OP similar harm.

The first is not possible. The URL for e.g. your avatar is: https://bitcointalk.org/useravatars/avatar_.gif
Maybe the ending changes depending on the format the picture was uploaded as, but that could be blocked as well. Its certainly possible that someone else uses a similar avatar though, which again is blocked with 2-3 mouse clicks.

What I learned from the "horny manga girl flaunting breasts is NSFW" discussion is that we cant keep everyone proteced and we should not. The internet is a reflection of society in general. OP might as well see an addict on the street. That would probably be a greater challanger for their selfcontrol.

I also agree with BadBear that the discussed avatars tell a lot about the person wearing them. I might also think they are idiots/racists/yerks/sexists/etc, but they also have a right to express themself and their views.

Quote from: Quickseller on April 12, 2015, 03:12:27 AM

Sure when ignoring the original context of the OP EAR's statement might be funny,, however when taking the topic of discussion into consideration, it is far from funny and just inconsiderate

I agree. EAL's reply was out of line, but Im also certain that it was made in light mood without much consideration.

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Quote from: EFS on April 11, 2015, 10:34:18 AM

I am recovering Monero addict. Please remove your avatar then.

I think this is a pretty dick thing to say. There is a huge difference between being a recovering drug addict and being annoyed at shitty alt coins with no value.

Assuming the OP is telling the truth then he it trying to get his life back on track after most likely hitting rock bottom. A monero avatar is noting more then a minor annoyance at the very worse.

in theory the OP could end up relapsing and ruining his life and/or someone else's life from looking at the avatar in question. You might end up being annoyed for another 2 seconds while scrolling past his posts after looking at his avatar.

There is a huge fucking difference. I am not sure if those kinds of avatars should be censored or not, however you need to learn to be much more respectful.

I was planning to make the same "joke". Not so much because it's supposed to be funny, but mostly because it's absurd to censor ourselves based on what someone feelings might be. Everyone can feel insulted by anything. I am sure there are people who made huge losses by some alt coin and might got depressed because of it, so any logo of that alt coin can make them feel bad too. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed. I think that was the point of EAL.

I think the rule of "NSFL" is clear enough and unless it was a photo of a half-dead meth junky that's bleeding on the streets, it is obviously pretty safe.

It's fair enough that there are some instructions for OP to self-censor, and it seems with this topic (adblock, ignore, etc), there are ways. Also I would personally probably still change the avatar out of respect and because it's a pretty lame avatar, but should be allowed imo.

I don't think EAL had ever invested any money (or BTC) into monero. I think he is more pro-bitcoin (as most people on here are).

I don't think someone who saw the name/logo of a shitcoin that they lost money on would potentially do any real damage to them.

On the other hand there is a real possibility that someone who sees pictures of hard drugs could relapse. Sure it is possible to use, among other things adblock to not see the specific avatar the OP is using, however it would be possible that he make a miner change to his avatar in the future and he would then again see the avatar, or someone else could download/use the sam avatar which would cause the OP similar harm.

Sure when ignoring the original context of the OP EAR's statement might be funny,, however when taking the topic of discussion into consideration, it is far from funny and just inconsiderate

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Quote from: Wardrick on April 12, 2015, 02:40:20 AM

Isn't smaragda essentially forcing his views onto other people?

True... you're referring to the I DO NOT CONSENT... right?

This is not the government trying to censor you. This is a human being asking for help in order to better his life. There is a major difference.

I don't think you would like it if you were aware and fully knew that you were the reason why another human went through self destruction because of you

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I guess asking nicely didn't work this time. Sorry, I tried Undecided

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 12, 2015, 02:38:11 AM

Quote from: EFS on April 11, 2015, 10:34:18 AM

I am recovering Monero addict. Please remove your avatar then.

I think this is a pretty dick thing to say. There is a huge difference between being a recovering drug addict and being annoyed at shitty alt coins with no value.

Assuming the OP is telling the truth then he it trying to get his life back on track after most likely hitting rock bottom. A monero avatar is noting more then a minor annoyance at the very worse.

in theory the OP could end up relapsing and ruining his life and/or someone else's life from looking at the avatar in question. You might end up being annoyed for another 2 seconds while scrolling past his posts after looking at his avatar.

There is a huge fucking difference. I am not sure if those kinds of avatars should be censored or not, however you need to learn to be much more respectful.

I was planning to make the same "joke". Not so much because it's supposed to be funny, but mostly because it's absurd to censor ourselves based on what someone feelings might be. Everyone can feel insulted by anything. I am sure there are people who made huge losses by some alt coin and might got depressed because of it, so any logo of that alt coin can make them feel bad too. Doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed. I think that was the point of EAL.

I think the rule of "NSFL" is clear enough and unless it was a photo of a half-dead meth junky that's bleeding on the streets, it is obviously pretty safe.

It's fair enough that there are some instructions for OP to self-censor, and it seems with this topic (adblock, ignore, etc), there are ways. Also I would personally probably still change the avatar out of respect and because it's a pretty lame avatar, but should be allowed imo.

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Quote from: Wardrick on April 12, 2015, 02:40:20 AM

Isn't smaragda essentially forcing his views onto other people?

True... you're referring to the I DO NOT CONSENT... right?

No, I'm not. I'm referring to the avatar you have for your account. That everyone can see including people such as the OP as well as other people not willing to make posts or threads about it. Your user title has little to do with anything. Its like showing a meth addict smoking a pipe saying "don't try this at home kids". Not trying to be an ass, but just have respect for other people.

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Quote from: Quickseller on April 12, 2015, 02:38:11 AM

Quote from: EFS on April 11, 2015, 10:34:18 AM

I am recovering Monero addict. Please remove your avatar then.

I think this is a pretty dick thing to say. There is a huge difference between being a recovering drug addict and being annoyed at shitty alt coins with no value.

Assuming the OP is telling the truth then he it trying to get his life back on track after most likely hitting rock bottom. A monero avatar is noting more then a minor annoyance at the very worse.

in theory the OP could end up relapsing and ruining his life and/or someone else's life from looking at the avatar in question. You might end up being annoyed for another 2 seconds while scrolling past his posts after looking at his avatar.

There is a huge fucking difference. I am not sure if those kinds of avatars should be censored or not, however you need to learn to be much more respectful.

Thank you.

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Quote from: Vod on April 12, 2015, 02:21:28 AM

Install adblock and block the avatar. Don't force your views on others.

Isn't smaragda essentially forcing his views onto other people? His user title has little to do with anything imo, and I think its pretty immature. Besides there are several people who are unwilling to make threads or posts about this subject that find would find his profile picture highly offensive. According to statistics, unless bitcointalk is in some different world. This isn't the darkweb, I think this site should still have some type of relative jurisdiction. I doubt if someone was wearing a shirt around 24/7 with crystal meth shards on it that they would get very much support from the community. Again, freedom of speech is necessary. But respect for others is as well.

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Quote from: EFS on April 11, 2015, 10:34:18 AM

I am recovering Monero addict. Please remove your avatar then.

I think this is a pretty dick thing to say. There is a huge difference between being a recovering drug addict and being annoyed at shitty alt coins with no value.

Assuming the OP is telling the truth then he it trying to get his life back on track after most likely hitting rock bottom. A monero avatar is noting more then a minor annoyance at the very worse.

in theory the OP could end up relapsing and ruining his life and/or someone else's life from looking at the avatar in question. You might end up being annoyed for another 2 seconds while scrolling past his posts after looking at his avatar.

There is a huge fucking difference. I am not sure if those kinds of avatars should be censored or not, however you need to learn to be much more respectful.

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Install adblock and block the avatar. Don't force your views on others.

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Quote from: marcotheminer on April 12, 2015, 01:44:55 AM

Here we go again..

What does that even mean? Do you mean I shouldn't have replied or just that my reply is not to your liking? Undecided

None of both. Just another event that has sparked staff hate. We should she tecshare here soon Tongue

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It was more of a joke.

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Interesting topic... I had no idea avatars had such powers.

I guess we can all safely assume that dewdeded isn't fully recovered yet. A fully recovered addict would pay more attention to the I DO NOT CONSENT right under the avatar.

Not that I don't have compassion for dewdeded... BUT... I'm afraid... I'm gonna have to stick this one out. I honestly want to see if the Admins & Mods are hypocritical enough to make me remove an avatar... while they proceed to being indifferent about everyone and their momma getting scammed left & right on this forum.

I wonder if dewdeded needs to provide a court order to have my avatar removed? Apparently... that's the only way to get threads removed even for obvious ongoing cases of embezzlement with third party witnesses/confessions... Roll Eyes

I think your Crystal Meth avatar is questionable at best since seems to infringe avatar rules as set by theymos. However, if you really have compassion for OP you should kindly address his concerns. Also, i'm not going to support a battle for freedom to wear avatars with illegal drugs.

Quote from: theymos on April 04, 2015, 01:21:37 AM

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2) Is NSFL allowed? [NSFL = Not Safe For Life]

No.

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9) How should users report those with infringing avatars?

DMCA takedown notices or any other legal thing must be emailed to me. For other issues, post about it in Meta.

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Interesting topic... I had no idea avatars had such powers.

I guess we can all safely assume that dewdeded isn't fully recovered yet. A fully recovered addict would pay more attention to the I DO NOT CONSENT right under the avatar.

Not that I don't have compassion for dewdeded... BUT... I'm afraid... I'm gonna have to stick this one out. I honestly want to see if the Admins & Mods are hypocritical enough to make me remove an avatar... while they proceed to being indifferent about everyone and their momma getting scammed left & right on this forum.

I wonder if dewdeded needs to provide a court order to have my avatar removed? Apparently... that's the only way to get threads removed even for obvious ongoing cases of embezzlement with third party witnesses/confessions... Roll Eyes

Here we go again..

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If someone's avatar is seriously offending someone I think it should at least be considered to be removed. This isn't the darknet or anything, there's still rules to this shit. As everyone's opinion is subjective, some avatars will be approved by some people while rejected by others. At least for me I think it would be in bad taste to let people have avatars of illicit drugs when there are people complaining about it. I don't really care what measures can be taken to hide the avatar by the person alone as there's probably other people who find it offensive. I would personally request to have the user change it, unless it's really that important to have an avatar like that as your profile picture for everyone to see.

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Crystal Meth? Understandable. Marijuana? Not so understandable. And marijuana is ranked in the same class of controlled substance as crystal meth (Schedule 1) While I can see your point OP, I am a recoving opiate addict. I take suboxone daily for my addiction. But everytime I see a OC80 or a Opana, I still want to do it, but have the sell worth and control to not "fixate" to much on it and let it go. Sure, I love seeing pictures of piles of pills that people has, that's the drug of choice where I'm from. I don't think images of drugs should be moderated. Just my opinion.

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I agree with the OP, i think he should make a poll a out it.

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I just PM'd the man. No reason we can't ask nicely

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Quote from: EFS on April 11, 2015, 12:36:04 PM

Quote from: Grand_Voyageur on April 11, 2015, 12:28:38 PM

Quote from: EFS on April 11, 2015, 10:34:18 AM

I am recovering Monero addict. Please remove your avatar then.

Is Monero NSFL (Not Safe For Life)? Grin

Yes, I lost a lot of money in Monero. It's NSFL for me.

*My point is to show how absurd is his request. It's not about Monero specifically. Even he has Bitcoin logo in his avatar, I'd give same answer. I don't support that kind of censorship in avatars.

Lol, not safe for live..? So funny

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Good luck with your recovery but would go with the Ignore feature to avoid triggering the urge
As for avatars in general re-enabling them and letting them go fairly free means drugs are ok as images

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You can also use the "ignore" button, it ignores the user, and doesn't show his avatar, signature, or posts. The downside to it though, is that you won't be able to see any of his posts.

Good luck on your recovery!

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