Topic: Please remove the Digital Goods section - page 2. (Read 2415 times)

Then Where is the privacy? We are in a bitcoin forum, the anonimity is the first thing to protect here. If I want to sell a digital item, I will not give my name to the forum (this is my personal choice).

How about only allowing software sales for people who are wiling to disclose their full name, address and phone number - so if it's not legit you can report them to the police.

It will be hard for staffs to do all these works. We will have to get dedicated staffs for this and will have to pay them and I don't think forum is earning enough to cover them. And also, how do we know things they provide are legit? How can we know that staffs aren't whitelisting their acquaintances? How can we know the staff itself is selling such keys? etc...

IMHO it is futile.

What I think should happen with Digital goods section is for only selected people to sell stuff and to be verified before coming to sell that proof of submitting legitimate keys or software and priced at good rates along with reseller rights and proof of this to prove that it is legitimate cops been sold as such.

Too many people sell serials for Windows and their none legit or trial licence ones that expire. Torrent site invites need to be sorted too as many buy them and soon later get accounts suspended because invites come from stolen account to get found out and account gets banned because the inventor got banned for selling invites.

People who sell stuff like Amazon vouchers or alike are good but still can easily get ripped off and seen so many disputes in digital goods where people bought worked and I have had it where I bought one  a while back had the code disputed made claims that code was stolen in dispute with Amazon provided all proof.

Maybe to re work it and have verified and trusted sellers that have proven with past products have sold or can provide something to say everything is 100% legit and not illegal or scam. Even other sections are out of control and no proper rules are in place. I think would also be advisable to look into all sections of trading and selling goods hardware and digital.

Yes, unless the moderators are willing to enforce very strict rules for sales

but do you want to penalize all the other "legit" sellers? I don't think it is a good choice, why remove an entire section because "few" dishonest person are selling "illegal items" etc... ?

You can crack down on them and ban them.

Do you guys want to be surrounded by people who might crack your accounts and sell them?

I agree with you, but if it's cracked accounts then it's just like a scam things happen there, but even they do, it doesn't mean that the digital goods section needs to be closed, and anyway some of them still selling a legit keys / accounts...
The key is just careful at trading with someone...
And use escrow

Digital Good section is a important way to prove existence meaning of Bitcoin: to be a currency.

There are plenty of people offering legitmate goods such as legitimate software keys with proof of authenticity, bitcointalk accounts and game accounts. If you were to remove the section, it would be unfair for people who sell legitimate things. You could give a negative trust to warn people but you can't ask a mod to remove it unless you have proofs.

Seems a bit drastic removing the digital section completely, if you suspect there are threads selling dodgy software keys just report them to the mods so that they can be removed. The hard part is proving that they are not legit...

Because of those scammers, why should I suffer? I also list my gift cards in that section and sell legitimate goods so I would be suffering because of those members which is not right. Those scammers should be stopped but well that section isn't moderated in respect of who sells scammed products and who doesn't. the buyers happily buy hacked/fraudulent goods and they are to be blamed as well.

My problem is that I'm having to report wayyy too many posts every day for digital goods put in goods.

i dont agree in removing the Digital Goods section, it will only cause a topic posted in the wrong place coz you cant avoid people selling their goods. maybe a solution of moderating the thread or banning people selling stolen keys/accounts will be better if it is possible

should try moderate the section rather than closing it completely

My perseption of the section is different. Many sell their domains, webpages, scripts for X there. Some sell their bitcointalk accounts and of those some might have been stolen, but those cases typcially end up in meta anyway. Whether or not the software in question was obtained illegally would be hard to proof. A 80% discount should certainly make you suspicious.

If I can say my opinion, I don't think it's necessary to remove digital goods section. In that child board there are a lot of trusted sellers, if you find something of illegal then report it to a triated member in the default trust list (like tomatocage, vod, quickseller...) and they can warn the other users with a simple negative trust (left) to that user.

IMO, a good portion of the Digital Goods forum supports theft as long as it benefits bitcoin.  I got ripped a new one when I pointed out obvious theft.   

I'm pretty sure OP suggests to forbid publishing digital goods, not just removing the board and moving all the threads somewhere else. And I'm also pretty sure that won't happen.

Probably very few people would acknowledge their goods are not "legitimate". However adding sub-categories in that board would be a good idea. Further analysis would be required but probably some of these ones make sense: Domains, Accounts, Gift and virtual cards, Software, others.

if the digital goods forum is closed, then the digital goods things will be posted in the goods sections

and it won't be spam