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Topic: Please stop trolling (Alternate cryptocurrencies) (Read 3999 times)

legendary
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September 08, 2011, 11:01:41 PM
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God damn it... Gmail was putting most of the post reports in the spam folder again.

I apologize for anything I've missed.
full member
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I reported a few, but i got no response.
Dont act like this Forum isnt Troll HQ - it is.
The Moderators are either lazy or part of the trolling Game.


I think any bitcoin mod is libertarian.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/libertarian-lesson-from-the-tao-te-ching-40872
legendary
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Bbxx, The Electric Monk, and jwzguy have never reported a post, so they have no right to complain about moderation.

I reported a few, but i got no response.
We don't usually respond to reports. However, I just checked, and, all two reports you've sent in resulted in post deletion.

Dont act like this Forum isnt Troll HQ - it is.
The Moderators are either lazy or part of the trolling Game.
We're not lazy, we're just not interested in the topics on that forum. As a result, the only way we'll likely ever read something there is if you report it.
sr. member
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we are legion
Bbxx, The Electric Monk, and jwzguy have never reported a post, so they have no right to complain about moderation.

I reported a few, but i got no response.
Dont act like this Forum isnt Troll HQ - it is.
The Moderators are either lazy or part of the trolling Game.
legendary
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The real problem is that it isn't specific posts that are overly offensive.  Some of them just wreck the conversation by posting more junk than discussion.  This is a good example:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solidcoin-design-contest-3300-solid-coin-bounty-41019

I'm not sure at what point I would report that.  1 or 2 jokes, ok, but it's pages and pages, and most aren't even funny.  You have to look hard for real contributions.
My god that's a mess. I don't even know what to do with that at this point.

When you want to report a derailed thread, report the post that it starts at and mention that the whole rest of the thread has issues.

That's why I said we could use a regular mod in that section.  I'd have to report every other post for trolling.
I agree. While I do check in there every few days when I feel like deleting something, things are really out of hand. However, it'll be hard to find someone that doesn't have a bias toward any particular alternatitive cryptocurrencies that regularly posts there. We can't just make the various *coin developers mods because that'd be a mess. It'll be even harder to find someone that also meets the standards for being a mod.
newbie
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The real problem is that it isn't specific posts that are overly offensive.  Some of them just wreck the conversation by posting more junk than discussion.  This is a good example:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/solidcoin-design-contest-3300-solid-coin-bounty-41019

I'm not sure at what point I would report that.  1 or 2 jokes, ok, but it's pages and pages, and most aren't even funny.  You have to look hard for real contributions.  That's why I said we could use a regular mod in that section.  I'd have to report every other post for trolling.
newbie
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Bbxx, The Electric Monk, and jwzguy have never reported a post, so they have no right to complain about moderation.

I was complaining about trolling, not moderation.  In my post I made the honest mistake of thinking there was no moderation in that forum, and I even asked for help finding some:

Who would we talk to if we wanted mods in the alt currencies forums?

hero member
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Bbxx, The Electric Monk, and jwzguy have never reported a post, so they have no right to complain about moderation.

You asked for it, sir.
hero member
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Bbxx, The Electric Monk, and jwzguy have never reported a post, so they have no right to complain about moderation.
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This is a concept users often fail to understand. I tell mine all the time: "If you have a complaint, report it, so I know what to look at." No mod or admin can be expected to read every thread on a forum. But still the users go "Why isn't this deleted yet?" instead of pressing the convenient button. I've never been able to get an explanation out of them why they just don't do this, either.
sr. member
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It's all about the game, and how you play it
People who complain about forum control over the Alternate cryptocurrencies should keep in mind that this is a bitcoin forum not a general cryptocurrency forum, to properly moderate such a thing isn't going to happen because moderators there will be, a solidcoin ixcoin i0coin or namecoin user and will be biased against the other currencies to propery moderate them would require each one to have it's own board and userbase.
administrator
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Bbxx, The Electric Monk, and jwzguy have never reported a post, so they have no right to complain about moderation.
legendary
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It is up to the users not to engage or encourage shitstorms in the first place. If you are looking for nanny mods there are plenty of boards to choose from. The fact that moderation goes unnoticed just shows some maturity.

I don't like over moderation either but we can't talk about a client update or a logo design without wading though an ocean of insults and fluff.  It's at the point where trolls are preventing any actual cryptocurrency related discussion.  So we need someone to moderate.
Do you know why we aren't doing anything about those threads? Because we aren't interested in the discussion and thus, never read it. That being said, we still give people plenty of leeway when we do read the post.

Only one post has been reported on the entire forum in the last 24 hours, and that was for a post in Bitcoin discussion.
full member
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The -only- guy getting routinely trolled is CH.

That's -only- because CH is incredibly obnoxious.  (beside the lieing and the failure to code part).

The -only- thing that will get me to stop is until SC either tanks completely or is managed properly.


Until then, I will continue to be as loud as I can about the (many) problems I see inorder to steer people away from something that -clearly- isn't supposed to be live.
hero member
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I don't like over moderation either but we can't talk about a client update or a logo design without wading though an ocean of insults and fluff.  It's at the point where trolls are preventing any actual cryptocurrency related discussion.  So we need someone to moderate.

Taking the piss out of a project that is just a troll of BitCoin with many additional bugs is fair comment. SolidCoin supporters are trolling this board promoting their nonsense and they are getting trolled back harder.

SolidCoin, IXCoin, IOCoin have so far brought nothing new to cryptocurrencies. NameCoin is the only one that has so far been at all innovative.


Which is why nobody trolls namecoin.
But well, this is also because namecoin is not a big pump&dump scam.
newbie
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Free speech refers to the amendment stating that the government won't make laws restricting speech.

It has NOTHING to do with what and who is allowed on a message board.

This board could use some serious cleaning, IMO.

Free speech is a concept that exists outside of the US constitution + amendments.  But this board does need cleaning.

The concept exists, and doesn't apply here. It applies to laws being created. Message board moderation is not an infringement of free speech, and we seriously need more of it.

Free speech is the freedom to speak without censorship.  That's all it is.  Sometimes it applies to laws, sometimes it doesn't.  I'm saying we need to balance people's ability to speak without sensorship with other people's ability to speak without being drowned out by punks.
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
The current reaction of the majority of the users is perfectly legitimate. All of the posts relating to so called alternates are in fact just about lazy rip-offs with no improvement.

There are plenty of mathematical problems out there which could be useful for a working system, not just sha256. If a author shows up with a sound concept I'm sure that it will be met with great enthusiasm but so far the only thing we've got is some lame-ass bullshiting by some faggot already on my shit-list.

But since it is cheaper to either copy bitcoin or engage in pseudo-intellectual discussion about some unscientific nonsense you get what you ask for.
sr. member
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I think a post voting system would go down well here. That way it leaves it up to the community to moderate itself. Posts with a enough negative votes would automatically be hidden, in addition to replies quoting that post. That would take care of a lot of the mess I think.
sd
hero member
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Taking the piss out of a project that is just a troll of BitCoin with many additional bugs is fair comment. SolidCoin supporters are trolling this board promoting their nonsense and they are getting trolled back harder.
SolidCoin, IXCoin, IOCoin have so far brought nothing new to cryptocurrencies. NameCoin is the only one that has so far been at all innovative.
You think people should stop posting about alt currencies in the alt currency section?

Certainly not. I think people should go think of some then come here and talk about them.

There really wasn't anything alternative or innovative about the ones I listed, they were just minor tweaks to BitCoin.
newbie
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Taking the piss out of a project that is just a troll of BitCoin with many additional bugs is fair comment. SolidCoin supporters are trolling this board promoting their nonsense and they are getting trolled back harder.
SolidCoin, IXCoin, IOCoin have so far brought nothing new to cryptocurrencies. NameCoin is the only one that has so far been at all innovative.

You think people should stop posting about alt currencies in the alt currency section?
sd
hero member
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The concept exists, and doesn't apply here. It applies to laws being created. Message board moderation is not an infringement of free speech, and we seriously need more of it.

Yes. God forbid anyone should say what's on their mind.

Everyone should shut up, watch adverts on TV, and buy crap they don't even want. The slaves have no other purpose.

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