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It'd be nice.
Nobody has to do anything, really. But, we become involved because the PND Community grabs you by the shirt collar with expectation and excitement and the next thing you know, you can't help yourself. I'd much rather be involved because I believe in my gut instincts, and I feel I can see where this is all leading. So, let the excitement and the reality of it all do a number on you. But, my main message, and yeah I do have one, is this: TRUST THE COIN AND TRUST THE TEAM. End of story.
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pls add this site to the 100k merchants, you can also  request dung from another animal (looking at you Panda)
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Don't believe what? That I do not have affiliations with Denisa? I do not. Just her manager and via Facebook which barely counts.

As for money I assume Panda's lawyers would work with her people once interest was established.

I just sit back and watch my PND become more valuable.  The PND devs can reach out themselves, my PND still goes up if it works. Just offering to be involved and not just spout ideas.

You're thinking in US terms where $5000 dollars buys you a 2AM AM radio ad on Sunday night from an E-list celebrity from the 1970s. In poorer countries getting the equivalent of Howard Stern to promote your product daily is within reach budgetwise.

Again. I am claiming no affiliations with anyone, just a desire to do the legwork assuming backing from the Panda organization. No funds would touch my hands.


Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.

In addition to this:

It's good that you're coming up with idea's to promote Pandacoin and that you're thinking outside of the box.
However we can not support such a venture. First of all because of the reasons LMP mentioned + the fact that celeb endorsement really doesn't work as well as you might think. Lets say the deal would be 5000 USD, and 100 people actually start using PND, that's 50 USD per person to acquire. No company would go for that! (unless you're selling something that's worth a few 1000 obviously). We've read studies about it and for us it's a no go.

The community can start their own projects and we encourage that, but we don't encourage people to spend money on things like this or on advertising a nascar car. The cost is a lot higher than the reward. Also: you're giving money (or PND) to someone who you trust will do something good with it... but who you really know nothing about. Cryptoworld is the wild west, do your research and even then you have to be careful not to get scammed.

Somehow, I don't believe you. Like I said, if your business proposition was legitimate, you would have contacted the developers directly, not applied scare tactics to the community to encourage us to engage in business with you.
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You're thinking in US terms where $5000 dollars buys you a 2AM AM radio ad on Sunday night from an E-list celebrity from the 1970s. In poorer countries getting the equivalent of Howard Stern to promote your product daily is within reach budgetwise.

Again. I am claiming no affiliations with anyone, just a desire to do the legwork assuming backing from the Panda organization. No funds would touch my hands.


Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.

In addition to this:

It's good that you're coming up with idea's to promote Pandacoin and that you're thinking outside of the box.
However we can not support such a venture. First of all because of the reasons LMP mentioned + the fact that celeb endorsement really doesn't work as well as you might think. Lets say the deal would be 5000 USD, and 100 people actually start using PND, that's 50 USD per person to acquire. No company would go for that! (unless you're selling something that's worth a few 1000 obviously). We've read studies about it and for us it's a no go.

The community can start their own projects and we encourage that, but we don't encourage people to spend money on things like this or on advertising a nascar car. The cost is a lot higher than the reward. Also: you're giving money (or PND) to someone who you trust will do something good with it... but who you really know nothing about. Cryptoworld is the wild west, do your research and even then you have to be careful not to get scammed.

Somehow, I don't believe you. Like I said, if your business proposition was legitimate, you would have contacted the developers directly, not applied scare tactics to the community to encourage us to engage in business with you.
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You're thinking in US terms where $5000 dollars buys you a 2AM AM radio ad on Sunday night from an E-list celebrity from the 1970s. In poorer countries getting the equivalent of Howard Stern to promote your product daily is within reach budgetwise.

Again. I am claiming no affiliations with anyone, just a desire to do the legwork assuming backing from the Panda organization. No funds would touch my hands.


Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.

In addition to this:

It's good that you're coming up with idea's to promote Pandacoin and that you're thinking outside of the box.
However we can not support such a venture. First of all because of the reasons LMP mentioned + the fact that celeb endorsement really doesn't work as well as you might think. Lets say the deal would be 5000 USD, and 100 people actually start using PND, that's 50 USD per person to acquire. No company would go for that! (unless you're selling something that's worth a few 1000 obviously). We've read studies about it and for us it's a no go.

The community can start their own projects and we encourage that, but we don't encourage people to spend money on things like this or on advertising a nascar car. The cost is a lot higher than the reward. Also: you're giving money (or PND) to someone who you trust will do something good with it... but who you really know nothing about. Cryptoworld is the wild west, do your research and even then you have to be careful not to get scammed.
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the idea behind it is that their fans would see it and not that they would grab their coins. you would reach very much people with that. i don't say that this is great marketing, because it doesn't target a specific group, but it would help more than throwing 5k $ out of the window. and who knows, some celebs could really be interested in crypto and would check it out.

That would work after a huge promotion or if the celeb was paid to make big deal of the tip. Most would have no idea what the tip, no idea how to deal with it and no interest in a few extra dollars.


why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked

Nice idea Smiley

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That would work after a huge promotion or if the celeb was paid to make big deal of the tip. Most would have no idea what the tip, no idea how to deal with it and no interest in a few extra dollars.


why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked

Nice idea Smiley

Minairia3, you forget that celebrities are people too.

And you can drop the business proposition.

If you were truly providing a legitimate business proposition, you would have contacted the developers directly instead of attempting to pressure the community with your poor scare tactics.
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That would work after a huge promotion or if the celeb was paid to make big deal of the tip. Most would have no idea what the tip, no idea how to deal with it and no interest in a few extra dollars.


why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked

Nice idea Smiley
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why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked

Nice idea Smiley

thank you sir  Grin
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why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked

Nice idea Smiley
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Nice article but lost in the mass of media, promotion has to be a constant buzz. IE knows this but doesn't have the budget/ability to pull it off.


Well, we've been hearing about these always in the future promotional plans and the 100000 retailors for a while and at the same time the price is tumbling.  From a business perspective I'm uncertain how fhey plan to accomplish these goals on a limited budget. It would take a massive bomb of tech and promotion to get my corner dry cleaner's to use Panda for example.  The devs have delivered smooth elegant tech but on the business/promotional side they've so far failed.  Articles in the cryptopress don't count and those silly paid Yahoo press releases do nothing. This @manelecrypto has apparently done 1000 times more towards getting real people to use Panda. IconicExpert's semi-scam dying Bytecent coin has a strong promotional program. Pure scam but always rising Bitswift sends people to conferences, etc to spread their word. Just having cool tech and waiting for the masses to show-up will not work.

enlighten me: what kind of strong promotional program? his paid press release? his claim to be the first crypto on downloadsites? http://download.cnet.com/PandaBank/3000-2057_4-76174397.html (check date)
or his constant tweets pushing people to buy his coin and saying that it's urgent to buy because they are missing out (typical signs of a scammer)

He's also a scammer. And it sounds like you're doing exactly what he does to try to take advantage of the less aware individuals in crypto-community.
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why not simply tip celebrities on twitter with the pandacoin tipbot? cheaper and their fans would see it aswell. Shocked
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Nice article but lost in the mass of media, promotion has to be a constant buzz. IE knows this but doesn't have the budget/ability to pull it off.


Well, we've been hearing about these always in the future promotional plans and the 100000 retailors for a while and at the same time the price is tumbling.  From a business perspective I'm uncertain how fhey plan to accomplish these goals on a limited budget. It would take a massive bomb of tech and promotion to get my corner dry cleaner's to use Panda for example.  The devs have delivered smooth elegant tech but on the business/promotional side they've so far failed.  Articles in the cryptopress don't count and those silly paid Yahoo press releases do nothing. This @manelecrypto has apparently done 1000 times more towards getting real people to use Panda. IconicExpert's semi-scam dying Bytecent coin has a strong promotional program. Pure scam but always rising Bitswift sends people to conferences, etc to spread their word. Just having cool tech and waiting for the masses to show-up will not work.

enlighten me: what kind of strong promotional program? his paid press release? his claim to be the first crypto on downloadsites? http://download.cnet.com/PandaBank/3000-2057_4-76174397.html (check date)
or his constant tweets pushing people to buy his coin and saying that it's urgent to buy because they are missing out (typical signs of a scammer)
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Put it this way minairia3, if you want to support us, support us. If you or your "client" wants to make money off of Pandacoin, then you can invest, and then endorse us, and make money purely off of the success of your endorsement.

If that doesn't sound like a good plan to you, then you either don't have any confidence in the influence of said "endorsement", or you're merely posturing.

Support us as you wish, but such a business engagement has far less utility than the average individual might expect or claim.
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It'd be nice.
Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.

In addition to this:

It's good that you're coming up with idea's to promote Pandacoin and that you're thinking outside of the box.
However we can not support such a venture. First of all because of the reasons LMP mentioned + the fact that celeb endorsement really doesn't work as well as you might think. Lets say the deal would be 5000 USD, and 100 people actually start using PND, that's 50 USD per person to acquire. No company would go for that! (unless you're selling something that's worth a few 1000 obviously). We've read studies about it and for us it's a no go.

The community can start their own projects and we encourage that, but we don't encourage people to spend money on things like this or on advertising a nascar car. The cost is a lot higher than the reward. Also: you're giving money (or PND) to someone who you trust will do something good with it... but who you really know nothing about. Cryptoworld is the wild west, do your research and even then you have to be careful not to get scammed.

What'd I tell ya? They've done their research!! Nobody's gonna be rich overnight. It's still VERY EARLY in "The Cryptoworld Wild West." I see the prices dive and I say, "time to take advantage and buy, buy, buy." It's not rocket science. Well, maybe it is. But, either way, patience is our main strength, IF we exercise it with passion.
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You misunderstand ... I want no money. Other than Facebook I have no affiliation with Denisa. The idea would be to have a legal written formal signed agreement not something informal. Romania is an EU country: if someone signs a contract to perform services they can be taken to court if they do not perform those services. I do not post to Twitter.  I do post and on Bitcointalk and play the game to promote my investments and damage competition. That is how crypto is played for better or for worse.

Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.
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Well, we've been hearing about these always in the future promotional plans and the 100000 retailors for a while and at the same time the price is tumbling.  From a business perspective I'm uncertain how fhey plan to accomplish these goals on a limited budget. It would take a massive bomb of tech and promotion to get my corner dry cleaner's to use Panda for example.  The devs have delivered smooth elegant tech but on the business/promotional side they've so far failed.  Articles in the cryptopress don't count and those silly paid Yahoo press releases do nothing. This @manelecrypto has apparently done 1000 times more towards getting real people to use Panda. IconicExpert's semi-scam dying Bytecent coin has a strong promotional program. Pure scam but always rising Bitswift sends people to conferences, etc to spread their word. Just having cool tech and waiting for the masses to show-up will not work.

enlighten me: what kind of strong promotional program? his paid press release? his claim to be the first crypto on downloadsites? http://download.cnet.com/PandaBank/3000-2057_4-76174397.html (check date)
or his constant tweets pushing people to buy his coin and saying that it's urgent to buy because they are missing out (typical signs of a scammer)
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Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.

In addition to this:

It's good that you're coming up with idea's to promote Pandacoin and that you're thinking outside of the box.
However we can not support such a venture. First of all because of the reasons LMP mentioned + the fact that celeb endorsement really doesn't work as well as you might think. Lets say the deal would be 5000 USD, and 100 people actually start using PND, that's 50 USD per person to acquire. No company would go for that! (unless you're selling something that's worth a few 1000 obviously). We've read studies about it and for us it's a no go.

The community can start their own projects and we encourage that, but we don't encourage people to spend money on things like this or on advertising a nascar car. The cost is a lot higher than the reward. Also: you're giving money (or PND) to someone who you trust will do something good with it... but who you really know nothing about. Cryptoworld is the wild west, do your research and even then you have to be careful not to get scammed.
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Well, we've been hearing about these always in the future promotional plans and the 100000 retailors for a while and at the same time the price is tumbling.  From a business perspective I'm uncertain how fhey plan to accomplish these goals on a limited budget. It would take a massive bomb of tech and promotion to get my corner dry cleaner's to use Panda for example.  The devs have delivered smooth elegant tech but on the business/promotional side they've so far failed.  Articles in the cryptopress don't count and those silly paid Yahoo press releases do nothing. This @manelecrypto has apparently done 1000 times more towards getting real people to use Panda. IconicExpert's semi-scam dying Bytecent coin has a strong promotional program. Pure scam but always rising Bitswift sends people to conferences, etc to spread their word. Just having cool tech and waiting for the masses to show-up will not work.
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It'd be nice.
Minairia3:

It sounds like you are trying to scam the Pandacoin community out of money and information.

There is absolutely no proof that you are affiliated with this supposed celebrity, nor is there any proof that you have the ability to accept money on her behalf even if you were.

If you want the Pandacoin community to even begin considering any such "partnerships", there needs to be 100% irrefutable proof that the celebrity in question is actually interested, there has to be a contract drawn up, and agreements made in an official capacity. Even then, we would question the value of such an arrangement.

I suggest you stop pushing this "offer" and go back to making twitter posts and BCT posts on other threads as you have been doing.

I gotta agree with you on this, LMP. I originally thought it was a wonderful idea, but then it kinda' all went south. Like we were being set up for the kill, or some weirdness like that.
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