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^  Of course they hate it.  Most of them are prolly multi tabling, HUD loving, break even rake back pros.  They prolly thought Galfond was gonna bring the golden days of online poker by creating his site like the Scheinbergs' Stars.
I think he also stated that buying in short stacked will not be an option.  To sit at a table a player must buy in for the full amount..  As a PLO player , this sounds really juicy.  I imagine a lot of my PLO peers feel the same way. I can see a scenario where all of the talent show up for an easy payday but just end playing each other.  The only time I really hear enthusiasm for Phil's site is among seasoned players. Also Myself and a good portion of PLO players don't Use a HUD when playing ring games. So I don't think he really rubbed any Omaha guys the wrong way with the policies. .
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Doug Polk and Daniel Negreanu again got nearby boxes at the feature table. Doug prepared perfectly)

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More news about RunItOnce. Recently Galfond came in Joe Ingram's podcast. Obviously, the main topic was the soon launching of the room. Short summary:

  • Anonymous tables with aliases will be only in non-high-stakes cash games. In tournaments and high-stakes cash everybody will be able to see real nicknames of opponents.
  • USA, Spain and Italy citizens can't play in the room due to law issues. Playing using VPN is prohibited.
  • On the first phase, there will be only NLHE and PLO available for playing. Limit games are planned to be added later.
  • Every player can get hands he or she have played in 24 hours after doing it. The format will allow to upload them in a tracker.
  • The Security Department in RunItOnce is not so big as in Pokerstars and PartyPoker, but Phil believes his team is much more qualified. Their main purpose is finding and banning bots.

The link to the full podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yb3uz47-X4



I am very glad to see decisions for the problems, about which I've written 2 weeks ago. I've told I consider writing notes and remembering previous actions to be an important part of the technical skill, so it's great I can try to get this kind of advantage in my favorite MTT format)
As for the sending hands on emails, I think it should help in the issue of finding bots by enthusiasts from players.
Other news was quite predictable.
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^  You mean 6 Plus Holdem?  Yeah, I heard that game is played at Macau private games a lot.  I'm not sure if they play it in the casinos tho.

But if they really wanted more action, why not teach them how play PLO then?

It's very close to 6-Plus, but they played with the hand ranking, where straight is higher than three of a kind.
I don't know, why they prefer this game instead of PLO. The only reason I can assume is the fact that online high-rollers have enough skill and experience in PLO to play against amateurs with a big advantage on the distance and businessmen should understand it. 6-Plus is much less popular online, so pros don't have so perfected strategies.

Quite an exciting fact that Phil Ivey played in the T-shirt with Virtue Poker ad. He is their ambassador as well as Daniel Colman and Brian Rast. They finished the ICO a few days ago and raised 100% of the 18.5 mln $ hardcap. I fastly read the whitepaper and it made me think skeptically about their prospects. They emphasized problems of modern online poker pretty well, but I didn't see the way how they are going to fix it. The example of Coinpoker shows decentralization is far away from being the crucial fact for potential players when they decide what room to choose for playing. The most important thing (and the biggest advantage of Pokerstars) is software and I don't believe they can beat Amaya in this issue having 18.5 mln $. I will be glad to be wrong in my estimation, but right now it seems to me they won't manage to become a significant competitor for the already-mentioned monopolist.
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^  You mean 6 Plus Holdem?  Yeah, I heard that game is played at Macau private games a lot.  I'm not sure if they play it in the casinos tho.

But if they really wanted more action, why not teach them how play PLO then?
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The broadcast from Montenegro Triton Super High Roller Series started nearly an hour ago. Six days of the most expensive tournaments with 36-cards deck and lots of familiar faces. I've read in Daniel Cates's interview that this game is extremely loved by rich Asian amateurs, so it'll be interesting to watch for if it can become popular all over the world. There is much more action in compare with 52-cards deck game. The rules are little bit different, but I still can't understand what exactly hand rankings they are using right now)

Link to the broadcast: https://www.twitch.tv/tritonpoker
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^  Of course they hate it.  Most of them are prolly multi tabling, HUD loving, break even rake back pros.  They prolly thought Galfond was gonna bring the golden days of online poker by creating his site like the Scheinbergs' Stars.
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Since Galfond's upcoming poker site was discussed here, then we might as well keep updating its progress...

Here's the latest from Galfond and it's looking good imo.  No HUD but with dynamic avatars showing how a player is playing from your own personal POV depending on how he has been playing against you.

Anyway, read about it below.  I think it's a breakthrough of sorts for online poker.

Laying the Groundwork
https://www.runitonce.eu/news/2-laying-the-groundwork/

I've already written about it here, but thanks anyway. Hopefully, I've expressed my opinion clear enough.

As for your words, I am afraid it's too early to name these things a breakthrough. As far as I heard, the majority of players don't like this news.
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Since Galfond's upcoming poker site was discussed here, then we might as well keep updating its progress...

Here's the latest from Galfond and it's looking good imo.  No HUD but with dynamic avatars showing how a player is playing from your own personal POV depending on how he has been playing against you.

Anyway, read about it below.  I think it's a breakthrough of sorts for online poker.

Laying the Groundwork
https://www.runitonce.eu/news/2-laying-the-groundwork/
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I finally managed to reload some hands to the new database, so I am ready to start hand discussions. Hope, it will increase an interest to the topic. Sometimes I will share hands with stopping action on the decision I doubt to avoid result oriented opinions. Today I have quite a non-standard spot to discuss.



Top 3 of live event satellite. First and second places get 5.5k$ worth packages on EPT event, third place gets something like 80$.

1) What would you do here - all-in or just call?
2) Why would you choose this option?
3) If you choose to call, what are your plans for turn and river?



Well the BTN didn't show a lot of strength with his pre-flop raise (not even 3x BB, so it's almost like a limp here). Maybe he was just trying to put pressure on the blinds, and trying to steal them. The flop was actually nice to Hero, because there are no big cards on the table, and the BTN bet was quite weak (I don't even consider that a continuation bet). Since Hero hit top pair, and still has a backdoor flush draw I would just raise to $18k. This would show some strength since it was a check raise. BTN most likely didn't hit anything. Hero would probably win the hand right away. He would already be quite committed to the hand, so BTN would think twice before trying to bluff him out of the hand, because Hero would probably reply with an all-in.

If hero wants to be really aggressive he could just go all in straight away, but just calling would be a bad move. If a figure shows up on the turn, he just couldn't keep making calls.

3x BB raise would be an awful decision in this spot, especially with aces. Firstly, t gives the chipleader on SB an opportunity to take the pressure on the Button by restealing very wide range and BU must fold nearly 99% vs 3-bet all-in because of the ICM considerations. Secondly, it doesn't give me enough chances to protect my big blind, which he certainly wants me to do)
As for the advice to raise, I really like it, thanks. Such commitment opens great prospects to mind games and leveling and I think in this circumstances it can give even more folding equity than just moving all-in because it seems much stronger. I haven't thought about this option, but it definitely worth to be considered, thanks again)



Guys, check this topic. Maybe somebody missed it and would like to participate: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poker-wsop-2018-analog-of-the-odb-fantasy-draft-3613739
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I finally managed to reload some hands to the new database, so I am ready to start hand discussions. Hope, it will increase an interest to the topic. Sometimes I will share hands with stopping action on the decision I doubt to avoid result oriented opinions. Today I have quite a non-standard spot to discuss.



Top 3 of live event satellite. First and second places get 5.5k$ worth packages on EPT event, third place gets something like 80$.

1) What would you do here - all-in or just call?
2) Why would you choose this option?
3) If you choose to call, what are your plans for turn and river?



Well the BTN didn't show a lot of strength with his pre-flop raise (not even 3x BB, so it's almost like a limp here). Maybe he was just trying to put pressure on the blinds, and trying to steal them. The flop was actually nice to Hero, because there are no big cards on the table, and the BTN bet was quite weak (I don't even consider that a continuation bet). Since Hero hit top pair, and still has a backdoor flush draw I would just raise to $18k. This would show some strength since it was a check raise. BTN most likely didn't hit anything. Hero would probably win the hand right away. He would already be quite committed to the hand, so BTN would think twice before trying to bluff him out of the hand, because Hero would probably reply with an all-in.

If hero wants to be really aggressive he could just go all in straight away, but just calling would be a bad move. If a figure shows up on the turn, he just couldn't keep making calls.
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Galfond wrote the second post about soon launching of RunItOnce Poker. It was devoted to auxiliary soft.

In a nutshell: HUDs will be prohibited. Instead of it, they are going to use dynamical avatars, which will reflect player's style considering only hands you've played with this specific player at one table. Small example:



Furthermore, if I caught it up clearly, there will be only anonymous tables, where every player will randomly get an alias consisting of a first name and a last initial.

Being, like I call myself, "an advanced amateur", I like the first idea with implementing dynamical avatars and not allowing to use HUDs, but there is also a flaw in such approach because competent regulars can't track suspicious opponents and check if they are bots. I hope, Phil has enough power to do this job inside the company. However, I completely don't like making all tables anonymous. I think writing notes and remembering old hands is an essential part of the technical skill, so I don't understand what's the point in such decision. It seems like Phil and his team got little bit confused with reinventing the wheel.

Link to full post: https://www.runitonce.eu/news/2-laying-the-groundwork/
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At big live tourney's...?  Cool.  I didn't know BTC is a thing for live poker pros.  I've been seeing it mentioned around 2+2, but other than that, I didn't think some of them used it regularly.

Yes. In Main Events from second days, in Highroller and Super Highroller tournaments from a start. This old-fashioned square near the dealer is exactly the clock. Watching for a bubble became more exciting, but it looks a little bit funny  Grin
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At big live tourney's...?  Cool.  I didn't know BTC is a thing for live poker pros.  I've been seeing it mentioned around 2+2, but other than that, I didn't think some of them used it regularly.
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Wow, I am watching the live broadcast from EPT Monte-Carlo. Pokerstars established the new rule and set shot-clock system. Now every player have only 30 seconds on every decesion and limited number of cards, which can be used to get additional 30 seconds. Thanks to PartyPoker, at least in the issue of live tournaments Amaya started to do something  Grin

Nice.  But it wouldn't really be problem if they accept BTC and convert them into USD like how ACR does it.  As long as that payment option is on there then it's fine.  

I'm sure Galfond has heard of BTC from the likes of Doug Polk...  He has come a looong way since their 'Ship it Holla Balla' days.

I suppose Phil knows enough about crypto. I heard it's very popular payment method among American players in deals like buying or selling shares and similar.
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Nice.  But it wouldn't really be problem if they accept BTC and convert them into USD like how ACR does it.  As long as that payment option is on there then it's fine.  

I'm sure Galfond has heard of BTC from the likes of Doug Polk...  He has come a looong way since their 'Ship it Holla Balla' days.
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^  Is he finally commiting to it?  He already announced about starting a poker site years ago with lower rake, grinder friendly atmosphere, etc...  But nothing really happened.  Everybody thought it fell thru.

Anyway we'll see this summer.  I hope it accepts crypto.

As far as I remember, he started working on the room at the end of 2015, when Amaya announced significant reducing of rakeback. Then I listened something like he faced unexpected difficulties and that the process appeared to be much harder than he had thought, so he would need much more time to do everything he wants. I haven't tracked the situation for a long time until yesterday.

As for the crypto, I think there is very high probability they will accept at least BTC, but I'm not sure about playing for it.
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^  Is he finally commiting to it?  He already announced about starting a poker site years ago with lower rake, grinder friendly atmosphere, etc...  But nothing really happened.  Everybody thought it fell thru.

Anyway we'll see this summer.  I hope it accepts crypto.
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I think you were unlucky because in both hands your opponents had top range, but that usually happens, when we lose a hand we tend to question the way we played it, much more often than when we win, even though we sometimes win hands after playing them incorrectly.

Yes, that's poker in a short. I had very little doubts about hand w T8s, but as I've already written, it was quite a specific ICM spot, just second suchlike situation in my poker life. Nice to see everybody here agree with the line I chose. As for the hand with 88, I didn't manage to get an answer to the question about a difference in calculation even from Simple Nash's developers.



Here is an exciting recent news from the poker world.

Phil Galfond announced the launching of his poker room RunItOnce Poker. It will consist of 2 phases. The opening is planned for the summer, but there will be only cash games available for the starting period. Phil promises sensible rake and unique VIP system, which should satisfy both professional and amateurs. Sit&Gos, multi-table tournaments, and high limits will be launched on the second phase. The date of it's appearing is still unclaimed.

Here is the link to the post about it in Phil's blog. He told he is going to describe the process there.

Interesting to see, how Phil is going to run so ambitious project. Poker market is shrinking year after year, Pokerstars monopoly seems to be dominating. But there was no any serious opponent for them since FullTilt's crush in 2011. I can't assume how big is RunItOnce's chances to succeed, but if they manage to do it, it will be one of the best things in the history of online poker.

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I think you were unlucky because in both hands your opponents had top range, but that usually happens, when we lose a hand we tend to question the way we played it, much more often than when we win, even though we sometimes win hands after playing them incorrectly.
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