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copper member
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.


(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)


Oh, wow, GluttonyY, you literally think you're clever, don't you? Newsflash: you're not. Your response is literally a masterclass in desperation and lack of self-awareness.

Let's break it down, shall we? You claim that your "luck system" is real and that you created it. Literally, who cares? That doesn't make it legitimate or trustworthy. You can create a system that claims to make unicorns appear out of thin air, but that doesn't mean it's true.

You go on to explain that your system affects luck and chance of winning. Literally, how? You don't provide any concrete evidence or explanation of how your system works. It's just a bunch of empty words strung together to sound impressive.

And then, you literally post images of yourself and Holydarkness, as if that's supposed to prove something. Are you trying to distract us from the fact that your system is a scam? Because, literally, it's not working.

Here's the thing, GluttonyY: you're literally trying to defend a system that has been flagged as a scam. You're literally supporting a system that promises "unlimited money generation" and has a "Provably Fair" system that's about as trustworthy as a snake oil salesman.

By the way, I'd like to remind you that you're literally trying to defend a system that you yourself have already implicitly acknowledged as a scam by supporting the flag against it, which is just rich.


On a scale of 1-10, how stupid would you say you are.

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Literally, who cares?
Uh a gambler interested in profiting moron.

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

He claims everything I am saying is logical, and then goes back into this deluded state that I am scam

'I gotta admit your ability to defend you program is impressive, but your a scammer'

'I am impressed by how everything you are saying is logical'

'Thats just a fancy way of saying your avoid regulations!' DUH IM AVOIDING REGULATIONS, SO MY USERS CAN WITHDRAW THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY.

tf.



Wow, GluttonyY, it seems like you've reached a new level of desperation. Your response is just a bunch of childish insults and nonsense. You can't even come up with a coherent argument to defend your scam, so you resort to calling me a moron over and over again.

By the way, I think it's interesting that you admit to avoiding regulations. That's illegal, by the way. You're basically admitting to breaking the law to benefit your scam. And you think that's something to be proud of?

You can keep ranting and raving all you want, but at the end of the day, you're just making a fool of yourself. I'm not impressed by your "logical" arguments, and I'm not buying into your scam. And neither should anyone else.

So, keep going, GluttonyY. Keep making a fool of yourself. It's entertaining, at least.


Noooooo, I dont think I am breaking any laws....

Just using a very simple loophole, so my users, can enjoy lucrative features

You wouldn't understand.... UHHHHH.. YOU GAMBLE WITH THE CASINOS LOL.

Lol, a simple human, like you wouldn't understand, something so complex. Just relax and go back to slots buddy..

jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 5
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.


(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)


Oh, wow, GluttonyY, you literally think you're clever, don't you? Newsflash: you're not. Your response is literally a masterclass in desperation and lack of self-awareness.

Let's break it down, shall we? You claim that your "luck system" is real and that you created it. Literally, who cares? That doesn't make it legitimate or trustworthy. You can create a system that claims to make unicorns appear out of thin air, but that doesn't mean it's true.

You go on to explain that your system affects luck and chance of winning. Literally, how? You don't provide any concrete evidence or explanation of how your system works. It's just a bunch of empty words strung together to sound impressive.

And then, you literally post images of yourself and Holydarkness, as if that's supposed to prove something. Are you trying to distract us from the fact that your system is a scam? Because, literally, it's not working.

Here's the thing, GluttonyY: you're literally trying to defend a system that has been flagged as a scam. You're literally supporting a system that promises "unlimited money generation" and has a "Provably Fair" system that's about as trustworthy as a snake oil salesman.

By the way, I'd like to remind you that you're literally trying to defend a system that you yourself have already implicitly acknowledged as a scam by supporting the flag against it, which is just rich.


On a scale of 1-10, how stupid would you say you are.

Quote
Literally, who cares?
Uh a gambler interested in profiting moron.

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

He claims everything I am saying is logical, and then goes back into this deluded state that I am scam

'I gotta admit your ability to defend you program is impressive, but your a scammer'

'I am impressed by how everything you are saying is logical'

'Thats just a fancy way of saying your avoid regulations!' DUH IM AVOIDING REGULATIONS, SO MY USERS CAN WITHDRAW THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY.

tf.



Wow, GluttonyY, it seems like you've reached a new level of desperation. Your response is just a bunch of childish insults and nonsense. You can't even come up with a coherent argument to defend your scam, so you resort to calling me a moron over and over again.

By the way, I think it's interesting that you admit to avoiding regulations. That's illegal, by the way. You're basically admitting to breaking the law to benefit your scam. And you think that's something to be proud of?

You can keep ranting and raving all you want, but at the end of the day, you're just making a fool of yourself. I'm not impressed by your "logical" arguments, and I'm not buying into your scam. And neither should anyone else.

So, keep going, GluttonyY. Keep making a fool of yourself. It's entertaining, at least.
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1014
All Games incl Racer and Lottery game are Closed
Look who is so active in this thread?

And just because OP said the truth, actually half of the truth, as PokerPlayer has many more disgusting words in his arsenal.


Always the same team supporting each other

@holydarkness
@PokerPlayer
@JollyGood = JollynotGood
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
For the nth time, luck can not be manipulated. It can't be replicated, let alone be controlled.
[...]
Incorrect.

Incorrect as in luck can be manipulated, replicated and controlled outside your platform?

Then kindly prove it, give me a clear instance where you can manipulate luck, that it can be bent at your will.

Let me make it easier: as you propose that you can manipulate luck, I'll be more than happy to be the lab rat, to let you demonstrate it. Though risk-free it must be, given I am inclined toward a belief that you can't manipulate or control or replicate any luck, thus I expect that I'll lose some, and I don't want that.

I'll play on one casino, with 50-50 chance of win and lose, coin flip might be the easiest one, I'll suggest one from BC. I'll record my entire session to maintain transparency.

Three rounds to be sure, or do you want them to be five? USD 5,000 as the first entry, with every next round will be double or nothing. If your claim is true, that can manipulate my luck, then all three should be winning rounds, correct? Otherwise, if your statement is misleading and you can't actually manipulate luck, that it can only happen on your platform [namely, a marketing ploy] then at least one round will be a losing round and your statement got debunked.

If you agree with that test, I'll need you to escrow the fund of 40,000 USD if we're going to have three rounds, or 160,000 USD if it'll be five, just in case your bending ability leave you for a sec. I'll choose the escrow.

Otherwise, just say that all this time, the term you describe as luck is just a marketing ploy and shouldn't be taken literally. It'll help us tackle one issue and move to the next.
copper member
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.

[Image snip]
(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)
[Image snip]

For the nth time, luck can not be manipulated. It can't be replicated, let alone be controlled.

But here's the middle ground, as I understand that it is what you tried to convey: "luck" is just a term in your platform to describe "entry". It's a marketing ploy, a way you use to market your platform, that the platform allows people to "manipulate luck", much like having "glitch" for an "unlimited money". It's not the act of manipulation of luck per se, rather a term of which you refer "entry" within your platform. Outside of it, it's an "entry".

Incorrect.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.

[Image snip]
(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)
[Image snip]

For the nth time, luck can not be manipulated. It can't be replicated, let alone be controlled.

But here's the middle ground, as I understand that it is what you tried to convey: "luck" is just a term in your platform to describe "entry". It's a marketing ploy, a way you use to market your platform, that the platform allows people to "manipulate luck", much like having "glitch" for an "unlimited money". It's not the act of manipulation of luck per se, rather a term of which you refer "entry" within your platform. Outside of it, it's an "entry".
copper member
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.


(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)


Oh, wow, GluttonyY, you literally think you're clever, don't you? Newsflash: you're not. Your response is literally a masterclass in desperation and lack of self-awareness.

Let's break it down, shall we? You claim that your "luck system" is real and that you created it. Literally, who cares? That doesn't make it legitimate or trustworthy. You can create a system that claims to make unicorns appear out of thin air, but that doesn't mean it's true.

You go on to explain that your system affects luck and chance of winning. Literally, how? You don't provide any concrete evidence or explanation of how your system works. It's just a bunch of empty words strung together to sound impressive.

And then, you literally post images of yourself and Holydarkness, as if that's supposed to prove something. Are you trying to distract us from the fact that your system is a scam? Because, literally, it's not working.

Here's the thing, GluttonyY: you're literally trying to defend a system that has been flagged as a scam. You're literally supporting a system that promises "unlimited money generation" and has a "Provably Fair" system that's about as trustworthy as a snake oil salesman.

By the way, I'd like to remind you that you're literally trying to defend a system that you yourself have already implicitly acknowledged as a scam by supporting the flag against it, which is just rich.


On a scale of 1-10, how stupid would you say you are.

Quote
Literally, who cares?
Uh a gambler interested in profiting moron.

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

Silly little moron

He claims everything I am saying is logical, and then goes back into this deluded state that I am scam

'I gotta admit your ability to defend you program is impressive, but your a scammer'

'I am impressed by how everything you are saying is logical'

'Thats just a fancy way of saying your avoid regulations!' DUH IM AVOIDING REGULATIONS, SO MY USERS CAN WITHDRAW THE MOST AMOUNT OF MONEY.

tf.

jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 5
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.


(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)


Oh, wow, GluttonyY, you literally think you're clever, don't you? Newsflash: you're not. Your response is literally a masterclass in desperation and lack of self-awareness.

Let's break it down, shall we? You claim that your "luck system" is real and that you created it. Literally, who cares? That doesn't make it legitimate or trustworthy. You can create a system that claims to make unicorns appear out of thin air, but that doesn't mean it's true.

You go on to explain that your system affects luck and chance of winning. Literally, how? You don't provide any concrete evidence or explanation of how your system works. It's just a bunch of empty words strung together to sound impressive.

And then, you literally post images of yourself and Holydarkness, as if that's supposed to prove something. Are you trying to distract us from the fact that your system is a scam? Because, literally, it's not working.

Here's the thing, GluttonyY: you're literally trying to defend a system that has been flagged as a scam. You're literally supporting a system that promises "unlimited money generation" and has a "Provably Fair" system that's about as trustworthy as a snake oil salesman.

By the way, I'd like to remind you that you're literally trying to defend a system that you yourself have already implicitly acknowledged as a scam by supporting the flag against it, which is just rich.
copper member
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
No holydarkness, the luck system, is real and I created. There is no misinterpretation.

Your luck in my system, is based on the method I have created, affecting your luck and chance of winning.

Mwah.

I have made my own luck based system, allowing you to increase your luck.

And we are increasing our luck, in this luck based system, by using the luck based system, to give us more entries.

The luck based system, also takes entries away from winners, so that losers, have more luck.

My own luck based system.


(GluttonyY)

Vs

(Holydarkness)
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
To misinterpret something is to build a wrong understanding from what is said or done

When the source of what's said or done itself is re-written to completely convey a different meaning, that's not misinterpret, that's called being the victim of someone who misled through edited statement.

Here's the two text:

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience lol.

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.

Tell me that you can confidently say they conveyed the same meaning?

Learn to own your mistake instead of assigning blame.

It was an accident Holydarkness, please forgive me!

But I messed up. And you misinterpreted.
 
We both gotta own up, because you keep calling me wrong, for inventing a gambling luck based system, when nobody ever did this before, bro.

So we both gotta start, owning up to when we wrong. Because nobody is right all the time.

And what the fuck is this guy ^ up here talking about, shut the fuck up and go 1v1 somebody already, stop bothering me with that shit.

Again, to misinterpret is to build a wrong understanding from what's said or done.

When you ask for a permission for night out and your mom said, "sure" with a stern face, so you hang out with your friend when she didn't mean to say she allows it, that's misinterpretation.

When you ask for that permission, and you got an answer, "sure", which much later on followed by, "but it you go, you might as well leave the home for good and never return", that means being misled.

Your insistence that I misinterpret the word that you later on edited and added extra words to it, only stressed out more about a possibility that you'll never admit when you make a mistake, which will rather explains your insistence on "luck" based system where it's been made abundantly clear that luck has no business with your platform and that you've implied that what you try to say is "entry".

And what do I have to own up on this situation?

I believe and somewhat can be rest assured and confidently say that people on the forum, who are familiar with my post record, know I own up my mistake. When I made wrong statements, I apologized. So what mistake did I do this time that worth me owning it up?

The misinterpretation which been explained twice above? Or the luck based system that's been explained even more often?



And you two, you and ditec, stop making quote pyramid. Try to snip previous quote when it's no longer relevant. It made things harder for reader to navigate through the page.
jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 5
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.

Quote
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.
Yes but that's what I meant you misinterpreted.

To misinterpret something is to build a wrong understanding from what is said or done

When the source of what's said or done itself is re-written to completely convey a different meaning, that's not misinterpret, that's called being the victim of someone who misled through edited statement.

Here's the two text:

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience lol.

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.

Tell me that you can confidently say they conveyed the same meaning?

Learn to own your mistake instead of assigning blame.

It was an accident Holydarkness, please forgive me!

But I messed up. And you misinterpreted.
 
We both gotta own up, because you keep calling me wrong, for inventing a gambling luck based system, when nobody ever did this before, bro.

So we both gotta start, owning up to when we wrong. Because nobody is right all the time.

And what the fuck is this guy ^ up here talking about, shut the fuck up and go 1v1 somebody already, stop bothering me with that shit.

Looks like you're dodging the convo because you can't debunk the UMG scam claims. Insults ain't gonna cut it, buddy. Address the concerns or admit UMG is a scam
copper member
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.

Quote
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.
Yes but that's what I meant you misinterpreted.

To misinterpret something is to build a wrong understanding from what is said or done

When the source of what's said or done itself is re-written to completely convey a different meaning, that's not misinterpret, that's called being the victim of someone who misled through edited statement.

Here's the two text:

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience lol.

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.

Tell me that you can confidently say they conveyed the same meaning?

Learn to own your mistake instead of assigning blame.

It was an accident Holydarkness, please forgive me!

But I messed up. And you misinterpreted.
 
We both gotta own up, because you keep calling me wrong, for inventing a gambling luck based system, when nobody ever did this before, bro.

So we both gotta start, owning up to when we wrong. Because nobody is right all the time.

And what the fuck is this guy ^ up here talking about, shut the fuck up and go 1v1 somebody already, stop bothering me with that shit.
jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 5
May 30th,

Poker Player, called me out and said I was a liar, for inventing a luck based system, users could manipulate to alter their probability of winning, for a guaranteed chance to win, ultimately accomplishing a safer much more reliable and profitable system for gambling.

Let's give it another shot, this time through different way, a simpler one, kindly define luck according to your own words and what you have in mind when you create the platform and that "luck-based system".
[...]

As established [or at least being in an ongoing discussion] on the thread which post you linked above, you're not inventing "luck" based system, it's "entry". So yeah, if I may borrow what I said previously --somewhere-- about luck, that you can't obtain more luck, i.e. manipulate them, isolating the case as described above, PP isn't wrong to be sceptical to someone who claimed he invented a luck based system.


I am inventing a luck based system in gambling users can manipulate.. This is what you don't understand Holy, no one has ever done this in gambling before.

It is a luck based system. Likewise, of course he isn't wrong. We never said he was wrong holy. We said, hey if your skeptical, you need to ask more questions. don't sting, me out of impulse.

Because everything I am saying is true, in my eyes, and is an accurate prediction.

I have invented the luck based system, showing you how many entries a user had to win the lottery.

I am the user inventing the luck based system, in gambling helping users manipulate their chance of winning, likewise, giving them a better chance of winning if they have not won.

So you are wrong.

In gambling I have invented this system.

And it will lead to gamblers being able to profit much more money, and much more consistently.

Although PP critcism, is needed, now he is holding the gamblers back.

You're still trying to spin your scam as some kind of revolutionary "luck-based system"? Give me a break. You're not inventing anything new, you're just repackaging the same old gambling scams and trying to sell them to unsuspecting people.

Newsflash: you can't manipulate luck, and your system is just a fancy way of taking people's money. You're preying on people's hopes and dreams, and it's shameful.

You're trying to justify your scam by saying that you're helping people win more consistently, but that's just not true. You're taking advantage of people's desperation and lack of understanding of probability.

And to top it all off, you're trying to silence critics like Poker Player who are calling you out on your BS. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to stifle legitimate criticism and concerns.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not going to let you get away with it. Stay away from this platform, folks, and don't fall for the owner's false promises.


Shutup idiot, you can manipulate luck if you make a system, with its own mechanics and its own rules, determining when someone wins. You fucking fool!

Trying to argue with the user who programs all day, and not join his side.

You fool!

Get on your knees, and pray I don't ban you!

Stupid mothef*cker !

Fancy way of stealing money my ass!

Your stealing the money motherfucker thats the whole point, you fucking moron/

PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM UMG, DUMB FUCK, PLEASE!

im begging you!!!!!!!

I do not ever want to help a user as dumb as you with support!

'Gluttony how do I check the balance of my bitcoin address' FUCKKKKK

Dude, I'm not intimidated by your aggressive language and ban threats. You're basically admitting that you can manipulate luck in your system, which is unethical almost everywhere. It's not just illegal in the US, it's morally wrong to rig games of chance and take advantage of people.

And honestly, if you're so confident in your system, why are you trying to silence critics like me? Shouldn't you be transparent and open to scrutiny? It's shady as hell that you're trying to hide something.

Your insults and personal attacks only make me more suspicious that you're promoting a scam. If you were genuinely trying to help people, you wouldn't resort to name-calling and threats. It's clear that you're more interested in lining your own pockets than doing what's right.

I'll keep warning people about UMG's shady activities and claims, and your attempts to bully me won't stop me. It's time for you to take responsibility and address the legitimate concerns raised about your system, rather than trying to intimidate and silence critics.
legendary
Activity: 2632
Merit: 1462
Yes, I'm an asshole
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.

Quote
That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.
Yes but that's what I meant you misinterpreted.

To misinterpret something is to build a wrong understanding from what is said or done

When the source of what's said or done itself is re-written to completely convey a different meaning, that's not misinterpret, that's called being the victim of someone who misled through edited statement.

Here's the two text:

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience lol.

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.

Tell me that you can confidently say they conveyed the same meaning?

Learn to own your mistake instead of assigning blame.
copper member
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
May 30th,

Poker Player, called me out and said I was a liar, for inventing a luck based system, users could manipulate to alter their probability of winning, for a guaranteed chance to win, ultimately accomplishing a safer much more reliable and profitable system for gambling.

Let's give it another shot, this time through different way, a simpler one, kindly define luck according to your own words and what you have in mind when you create the platform and that "luck-based system".
[...]

As established [or at least being in an ongoing discussion] on the thread which post you linked above, you're not inventing "luck" based system, it's "entry". So yeah, if I may borrow what I said previously --somewhere-- about luck, that you can't obtain more luck, i.e. manipulate them, isolating the case as described above, PP isn't wrong to be sceptical to someone who claimed he invented a luck based system.


I am inventing a luck based system in gambling users can manipulate.. This is what you don't understand Holy, no one has ever done this in gambling before.

It is a luck based system. Likewise, of course he isn't wrong. We never said he was wrong holy. We said, hey if your skeptical, you need to ask more questions. don't sting, me out of impulse.

Because everything I am saying is true, in my eyes, and is an accurate prediction.

I have invented the luck based system, showing you how many entries a user had to win the lottery.

I am the user inventing the luck based system, in gambling helping users manipulate their chance of winning, likewise, giving them a better chance of winning if they have not won.

So you are wrong.

In gambling I have invented this system.

And it will lead to gamblers being able to profit much more money, and much more consistently.

Although PP critcism, is needed, now he is holding the gamblers back.

You're still trying to spin your scam as some kind of revolutionary "luck-based system"? Give me a break. You're not inventing anything new, you're just repackaging the same old gambling scams and trying to sell them to unsuspecting people.

Newsflash: you can't manipulate luck, and your system is just a fancy way of taking people's money. You're preying on people's hopes and dreams, and it's shameful.

You're trying to justify your scam by saying that you're helping people win more consistently, but that's just not true. You're taking advantage of people's desperation and lack of understanding of probability.

And to top it all off, you're trying to silence critics like Poker Player who are calling you out on your BS. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to stifle legitimate criticism and concerns.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not going to let you get away with it. Stay away from this platform, folks, and don't fall for the owner's false promises.


Shutup idiot, you can manipulate luck if you make a system, with its own mechanics and its own rules, determining when someone wins. You fucking fool!

Trying to argue with the user who programs all day, and not join his side.

You fool!

Get on your knees, and pray I don't ban you!

Stupid mothef*cker !

Fancy way of stealing money my ass!

Your stealing the money motherfucker thats the whole point, you fucking moron/

ITS PVP FUCKING MORON [PLAYERS ARE STEALING MONEY FROM EACH OTHER]

PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM UMG, DUMB FUCK, PLEASE!

im begging you!!!!!!!

I do not ever want to help a user as dumb as you with support!

'Gluttony how do I check the balance of my bitcoin address' FUCKKKKK
jr. member
Activity: 98
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May 30th,

Poker Player, called me out and said I was a liar, for inventing a luck based system, users could manipulate to alter their probability of winning, for a guaranteed chance to win, ultimately accomplishing a safer much more reliable and profitable system for gambling.

Let's give it another shot, this time through different way, a simpler one, kindly define luck according to your own words and what you have in mind when you create the platform and that "luck-based system".
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As established [or at least being in an ongoing discussion] on the thread which post you linked above, you're not inventing "luck" based system, it's "entry". So yeah, if I may borrow what I said previously --somewhere-- about luck, that you can't obtain more luck, i.e. manipulate them, isolating the case as described above, PP isn't wrong to be sceptical to someone who claimed he invented a luck based system.

I am inventing a luck based system in gambling users can manipulate.. This is what you don't understand Holy, no one has ever done this in gambling before.

It is a luck based system. Likewise, of course he isn't wrong. We never said he was wrong holy. We said, hey if your skeptical, you need to ask more questions. don't sting, me out of impulse.

Because everything I am saying is true, in my eyes, and is an accurate prediction.

I have invented the luck based system, showing you how many entries a user had to win the lottery.

I am the user inventing the luck based system, in gambling helping users manipulate their chance of winning, likewise, giving them a better chance of winning if they have not won.

So you are wrong.

In gambling I have invented this system.

And it will lead to gamblers being able to profit much more money, and much more consistently.

Although PP critcism, is needed, now he is holding the gamblers back.

You're still trying to spin your scam as some kind of revolutionary "luck-based system"? Give me a break. You're not inventing anything new, you're just repackaging the same old gambling scams and trying to sell them to unsuspecting people.

Newsflash: you can't manipulate luck, and your system is just a fancy way of taking people's money. You're preying on people's hopes and dreams, and it's shameful.

You're trying to justify your scam by saying that you're helping people win more consistently, but that's just not true. You're taking advantage of people's desperation and lack of understanding of probability.

And to top it all off, you're trying to silence critics like Poker Player who are calling you out on your BS. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to stifle legitimate criticism and concerns.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not going to let you get away with it. Stay away from this platform, folks, and don't fall for the owner's false promises.
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Luck can not be defined merely, as buying a ticket. Many things are luck. Your amount of entries, in a lottery system contributes to your luck. And if I am giving you an option to manipulate your entries, while also implementing other controls, to achieve a desired outcome, this is my own luck based system.

Chance, that's chance, not luck.

Once again, chance is buying 80 out of 100 entries and come out as the winner. Luck is buying 1 and nothing else, and still come out as the winner. Chance and entries are effort-related. You buy more in order to get more chance to win. Luck is being unable to care less. One is enough. No more action taken, and still come as the winner.

Stop trying to argue with me on that.

And you're the one who first asked me to have an open mind.

So I have to have an open mind, which I did by trying to understand your point of view and your definition of luck, of which helped me to understand that you misused the proper term, but when it's your turn to consider whether you made a mistake [which rather obvious by anyone reading your multi-thread explanation], it become "stop trying to argue with me"?

I am my own scientist, I can create whatever I want, as long as it makes sense.

That's the problem, it does not make sense.

How do I have to convey this to make you see the simple problem?

You can not manipulate luck. Ever. Saying that you can will only make people think you're a liar. I am helping you to understand one of the root of your problem here. The sooner you see that you misused the word and marketed it badly, the faster people will reconsider that you're not a scammer that they already think you are.

Let me try to put it this way, perhaps the exaggerated "equivalent" to "I can manipulate luck" is "I can raise from death". No one can. They're things outside our control.

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Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.
Updated, I think holy misinterpreted what I was saying.

That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.

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That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.
Yes but that's what I meant you misinterpreted.
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Dude, I'm calling you out on your hypocrisy. You're bashing Poker Player for trying to prevent scams, but you're shilling for Unlimited Money Generator (UMG), which is a scam itself. That's some serious double standards, bro.

Newsflash: spamming is never okay, whether it's on Bitcointalk or Tiktok. You can't just flood a forum with promotional messages because you want to push your platform. It's not cool, and it's not going to win you any fans.

And let's get real, I've done my research and I'm convinced that UMG is a scam. I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about the platform on this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-unlimited-money-generator-website-5498951. You can't just dismiss people's concerns and call them names for trying to prevent scams.

You're trying to spin this as some kind of victory, but it's not something to be proud of. Spamming is not okay, and promoting scams is even worse. So, instead of attacking people who are trying to prevent scams, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that UMG is legit? That's what a real professional would do. But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from UMG.

Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.

You can warn people to stay away but they never will ditec lol

I will talk to you today, and inform you then you will be interested and you will be on my side. Then you will see that I am right, even if I am an asshole everything is right, and is needed!

Lets do it!

Lets get it done!

Lets debate !

Lets get to the bottom of it!

is UMG a scam? No??? Okay best benefits on market since 1923!? Okay GluttonYy, 'We love you'



Hey GluttonyY,

I've gotta say, your response is just a bunch of deflection and denial. You're trying to spin this as some kind of victory, but it's not something to be proud of. Spamming is not okay, whether it's on Bitcointalk or Tiktok, and promoting scams is even worse.

You're claiming that you have no guilty conscience and that you're not scamming anyone, but that's just not true. I've done my research and I've laid out all the red flags and concerns I have about UMG on this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.64173097. You can't just dismiss people's concerns and call them names for trying to prevent scams.

UMG is a scam, and I'm not backing down. I've created flags against UMG owners and promoters, and I urge the community to support them. Let's keep our community safe from scams like this.

You're trying to spin this as some kind of debate, but it's not a debate. It's a fact: UMG is a scam, and you're promoting it. Spamming is not okay, and it's not going to win you any fans.

So, instead of attacking people who are trying to prevent scams, how about you try to address the concerns and prove that UMG is legit? That's what a real professional would do. But until then, I'm gonna keep calling you out on your shady tactics and warning people to stay away from UMG.
legendary
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Yes, I'm an asshole
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Luck can not be defined merely, as buying a ticket. Many things are luck. Your amount of entries, in a lottery system contributes to your luck. And if I am giving you an option to manipulate your entries, while also implementing other controls, to achieve a desired outcome, this is my own luck based system.

Chance, that's chance, not luck.

Once again, chance is buying 80 out of 100 entries and come out as the winner. Luck is buying 1 and nothing else, and still come out as the winner. Chance and entries are effort-related. You buy more in order to get more chance to win. Luck is being unable to care less. One is enough. No more action taken, and still come as the winner.

Stop trying to argue with me on that.

And you're the one who first asked me to have an open mind.

So I have to have an open mind, which I did by trying to understand your point of view and your definition of luck, of which helped me to understand that you misused the proper term, but when it's your turn to consider whether you made a mistake [which rather obvious by anyone reading your multi-thread explanation], it become "stop trying to argue with me"?

I am my own scientist, I can create whatever I want, as long as it makes sense.

That's the problem, it does not make sense.

How do I have to convey this to make you see the simple problem?

You can not manipulate luck. Ever. Saying that you can will only make people think you're a liar. I am helping you to understand one of the root of your problem here. The sooner you see that you misused the word and marketed it badly, the faster people will reconsider that you're not a scammer that they already think you are.

Let me try to put it this way, perhaps the exaggerated "equivalent" to "I can manipulate luck" is "I can raise from death". No one can. They're things outside our control.

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Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.
Updated, I think holy misinterpreted what I was saying.

That's not update, that's revision. The original text and the one available now holds different context.
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Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience lol.
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Just... stop? If you can?

At this point, you're not digging your own grave, you're operating an excavator.

Most of your statements and lash out are not really necessary because there are different [better] approach. What you did with controversial statements like you'll continue spamming [note: you've been warned by the admin to keep your post in control] or that you have no guilt conscience, are they really necessary? Unless, of course, if your aim is getting a perma-ban. If that's it, then I'll say fly and seize that opportunity, go harder.

Because, in case you're not aware despite all of what happens so far, all you did were discouraging people from engaging to your platform. Add that to the username you choose, which you admitted yourself will raise some question, and the way you lashed out to criticism, I have to say that everybody's reaction towards your platform is justified.

There is another user created a thread about you [and I can't help but roll my eyes and think, "great, another UMG thread"], use that to show that you can be civil.

I am inventing a luck based system in gambling users can manipulate.. This is what you don't understand Holy, no one has ever done this in gambling before.

It is a luck based system [...]

Aannddd... we're going back to square one. The term you use to describe "luck" is a misconception, no one can control luck, not unless that someone has Tyche or Lakshmi on their speed dial. No one can invent luck. It's "entries", or "tickets" if you will. And as I previously explained, quoting Oxford's dictionary, luck is good things that happen to you by chance, not because of your own efforts or abilities.

It happens out of your control, without any efforts made or any possessed abilities intervening the outcome. The act of "user manipulate or alter their probability" itself is an effort, an action, thus negate the essence of luck.

Risking to sound redundant, luck is buying one ticket and come out as a winner. Effort or entries or tickets or probability or whatever is the thing you do for a better chance to have an outcome where you're the winner.

I'm not digging any grave.

I think users, think just because I am a copper member, I don't have a brain. Yea Okay...\

Likewise, I can create luck, because your luck of winning in my system, is controlled by my rules.

Luck can not be defined merely, as buying a ticket. Many things are luck. Your amount of entries, in a lottery system contributes to your luck. And if I am giving you an option to manipulate your entries, while also implementing other controls, to achieve a desired outcome, this is my own luck based system.

Stop trying to argue with me on that.

I am my own scientist, I can create whatever I want, as long as it makes sense.

Likewise, I am glad the user made the thread.. You think just because he made a thread, signaling UMG is a scam is a bad thing? No this is a good thing, let the users share their opinion, and then I will come and answer all of their questions to negate these derogatory accusations.

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Promoting scams is even worse, which is why I keep promoting, because I have no guilty conscience I am not scamming anyone lol.
Updated, I think holy misinterpreted what I was saying.
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