Topic: Police officer shot in Ferguson - page 3. (Read 3936 times)

Yeah, leveling the town is an exaggeration. at the end of the day though, they're damaging businesses that had nothing to do with what happened.  I really hope they all had insurance, because a lot of people's lives could be ruined.  The one that really stuck out to me was the destruction of the store where he stole from.  What did that guy ever do wrong? His business could be ruined for good.

One of the big issues I see with all of this is the whole black/white debate.  All it does it split the people, everyone needs to get on the same page. No where near as much outcry with this shooting: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/3/justice-dillon-taylor-after-white-utah-man-fatally/ . Just read a few of the comments, now I know it's the internet, but until people learn to get along, the police and government will continue to push their agenda.

As you say, the right thing to do is a large peaceful protest, only then will the masses come together.  Of course the police will continue to poke the bear though for a reaction, and they're getting it.  People need to take a deep breath and calm down.  We all know that breaking shit doesn't work. Most people just look at you like an idiot.

The shooting hit news up in Canada pretty fast, then again, I follow a lot of media that isn't considered mainstream. So not really sure if the rioting was necessary.

Not really sure how to tackle the over militarization of the police force down there.  I know a lot of Americans are arming themselves with as much as they can, but is it really the answer? If it gets bad enough, I imagine they will just send in the military, then things will get interesting.

They are doing some damage but not really leveling their entire town. Nothing will change IMO if no-one does anything. I will agree that long term sustained rioting is not useful and that the riots should turn into sustained peaceful protests on a large scale that bring the issue to the forefront of our national consciousness. I think what happened in Ferguson needed to happen, if there was no rioting no-one would even know about Mike Brown. It is time the country dealt with the issues of over-militarization of police and the fact they are apparently above the law. People are sick and tired of this bullshit and people deserve to be very, very angry over all the needless police killing.

Rioting is justified when the cops kill any member of someone's family and then lie, cover it up, blame the victim and then get away with it. Which is what happens in America daily.

There won't be any charges filed against Darren Wilson.  The prosecutor assigned the case talking to the grand jury is biased against blacks, he has a dad that died in the line of duty in a bad neighborhood. He has also been known to defend police brutality even when it was obviously not warranted. This whole thing will be swept under the rug and good old officer darren wilson will get away with it, which is par for the course for police in the USA.

Another thing - the Ferguson PF violated state laws because they did not file a use-of-force report, which is a gross violation of normal police conduct. Everything points to a cover-up and the cops are playing dirty, as usual. Link:

https://news.vice.com/article/ferguson-officials-arent-telling-you-what-happened-to-mike-brown

"I'm glad he died, he was a thug."

You should see a therapist. Taking joy in the deaths of unarmed teenagers is not normal mental behavior.

So killing is ok if it isnt your entire family?
Nobody killed an entire family.

Or

Did you mean that it's only bad when they kill someone who has a family?
Mike Brown had no children.

Of

Did you mean it is bad when they kill someone who has parents?  Because that is everyone.

So when did the cop have time to ask Mike Brown if he had a family while Mike Brown was punching the cop and fighting him?

The cop didnt need to kill him, after the first few shots.

Id like to know how far MB was from the cop when he shot him.
Id like to know if there was blood IN the cop car, or a bullet hole IN the cop car like the cop claims.

MB was fucked anyway after assaulting a cop and robbing a store.
I dont want to pay taxes to pay for his public defender and prison time.
I am glad he died, he was a thug.

I also hope the cop gets shot or charged with murder because I do not think he needed to fire extra shots after pausing.  IF that was real.

You do realize that by doing what they are doing, they are just giving the police more ammo to militarize their police force even further. Brown was no innocent victim in all of this either, no matter what way you look at it.

I do agree that America needs some major protests, but leveling the cities and towns that you live in will accomplish nothing. Then again, I've read there is over 18 million homes sitting empty, many from all the foreclosures when the economy tanked. Guess people can just move on to the next empty city after they destroy the last one.

True, but everyone was too busy working their 9-5 and taking SSRI antidepressants. Unfortunate.

It's too late, we should have protested when they were militarizing the police with riot gear

Rioting is justified when the Cops get away with killing your children on a daily basis. Sure, some of the rioters were just looking to make some $$ but at the same time the anger is completely justified.

America needs some major protests, we're all far too complacent. Well I for one support rioting when the cops kill your fucking family.

You're an ignorant dip-shit.

The cop drove up within feet of Mike Brown and initiated aggressive contact with Mike Brown first. This is what led to the altercation at the window because he drove right up next to him first, and the Cop called him over and was looking for a fight himself. The pig pulled him in, or tried too at least and when Mike dared to resist the poor little piggie got PISSED, and he acted as judge jury and executioner.

So you're willing to believe the eyewitness testimony of the little girl (never heard of her) but what about the testimony of the 2 nearby white construction workers, who both saw the whole thing, claiming that Mike Brown both had his hands up in the air and said "Don't Shoot" right before they gunned him down in cold blood? You can spin that anyway you want with your racist diatribe trying to say he deserved to die, but the truth is that he did not deserve to die. They murdered him in cold blood. He was not a threat, and they killed him anyway. Even if what you say is true and he did punch the cop (doubtful, not proven) he should have been arrested for assault, not gunned down in the street infront of his own family. Cops are supposed to be held to a higher standard, not allowed to kill whoever they feel like simply because they got pissed off. How would you feel if it was your son that got killed by an aggressive out of control cop? All the cop has to do is say he thought your son had a gun on him. And he will get away with killing your child, I guarantee it. And you're perfectly fine with this twisted version of america?

Mike Brown didn't assault the cop. The cop initiated aggressive contact with Mike Brown first and when Mike was like WTF and started running away the cop killed his ass. The only mistake Mike made was when he thought the cop wouldn't kill him, so he turned around and put his hands up. Then he got killed anyway. Because that's what cops in America do. It's no longer protect and serve, it's brutally murder people and get away with it.

Mike was not a gang-banger. You are just judging a person you have never even met. Also, there is no proof that was him at the convenience store and even if it was it has no relation to this case whatsoever.

"I am glad someone burned his shrine"

Wow now that statement really goes to show how ignorant you really are. I hope someone pisses all over your grave

The cops in america are out of control. They have an us vs. them mentality and they are getting away with murder every single day. If it takes some rioting to bring this to the national consciousness, so be it.

What kids?  Most of these people are adults with careers and jobs.  Especially nowadays, there's been people all over the country driving to Ferguson with the intent of committing crime.  It's like all those G20 conferences that attract anarchists and criminals from other countries.

http://nypost.com/2014/08/19/witnesses-say-ferguson-teen-attacked-cop-before-shooting/


We could go back and forth all night.  Either way, where is the justification to loot and destroy the town you live in?



As I said, animals.

Hands up, don't shoot

No it is not justified.  They are destroying their own city because of a black kid who robbed a store (which was also burned down "in protest") decided to get in a physical altercation with the officer.  I've read through tonnes of reports from both arguments, and as far as I'm concerned, the kids got in a fight with the cop. With the way things work these days in the USA, that's likely going to get you shot.

Now the report I read was that a candle was knocked over and it caught the memorial on fire.  Even if it did happen the way you say, what justification is it to shoot at officers and wreck the city even further?

These protesters are acting like animals!

Mike Browns co-robbery friend was clearly the most coached lying witness I have ever heard speak.
A little black girl looking out her window did CONFIRM that the big man that was killed and later identified as Mike Brown WAS fighting the cop THROUGH the cops window.  There is NO way that the cop PULLED that big ass 300 pound Mike Brown IN his window to start a fight. 

Why has nobody asked "Where is the evidence of a bullet hole INSIDE the cops car, OR ~not~ in the cops car?"
If the cop car has a bullet hole inside, that proves the cop story and disproves Mike Brown's co-robber friend story.

According to the reliable little black girl witness who was not coached or using vocabulary words that are out of place, she saw a fight through the window.
That means Mike Brown assaulted the cop.  Reasonable to believe given his Robbery and in-your-face guesture caught on video minutes before as he faced off on the shop clerk.

I think the police department fucked up by not explaining why forensics left him in the street for 4 hours, and fucked up by not revealing the bullet hole (or lack of) in the cop car.

Mike Brown is a fat peice of shit giving black men a bad reputation.
He is a TERRIBLE example of a "victim" and they should choose a BETTER case to rally behind.

I am glad someone burned his shrine.
Stupid criminal attacked a shop clerk and then attacked a cop who was going to arrest him for it.
Mike Brown was a big gang banger and died after assaulting a cop.

If you put yourself into a cops window and assault that cop with your fists, you get shot.

HOWEVER

I did hear the recording of the shooting.  And there was a pause in the shots.  I doubt Mike B paused while putting lumps in the cops face though.

Mike Brown is in hell where he belongs.

No not really just rioting like rioting for treyvon after the case is over everything will calm down.

I agree. Even though cops are there to protect people and property, it seems like they are often getting out of hand more than the crooks they are there to protect us from. Time to start suing them, human being to human being, using the common law the way Karl Lentz is showing us.

http://www.myprivateaudio.com/Karl-Lentz.html

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5duR4OvEHHxOSdEZhANETw

The anger over the police shooting in Ferguson is totally justified.

Everyday cops kill innocent people for the most retarded of reasons in America and no one is ever held responsible for anything.

Multiple eyewitnesses said Mike Brown had his hands up and he said "Don't shoot" right before they killed him. That is murder.

Also, another thing they haven't mentioned in the media. A big reason new riots have started up in Ferguson lately is because someone torched the Mike Brown memorial that was in the street.

Yep that's right, in the middle of the night someone poured gas on the mike brown memorial and torched it.

Like that's not gonna piss some people off.