Topic: Police raids of miner homes? Should I expect one soon? (Read 4910 times)

So by now you all must be thinking "ok this dude is paranoid, how does any of this fit together?"...

1) When i called PGE they were really curious about my power usage, and my theory is police and power companies work together to catch people who grow weed.

2) My theory with this is he was some sort of private investigator hired to check out my house since it flagged me as some weed grower based on the power usage. He apparently asked my neighbor "is there a yard?". (The other theory with this guy is that maybe he was casing my apartment. I have a nice car in the drive way so maybe a thief looking for ways to break in.)

3) This one is what really got me thinking, not actually reading either one of these books I found out that 1984 is just kind of a "big brother is watching" type of book and Little Prince is a "Don't value money value people" type of moral. Now... I'm a young guy and innocent looking, I would not doubt that that private investigator was trying to tip me off that "someone is watching and my values need to change".


All of this has happened within two months since I started mining, I use about 70 KWh per day...

Anyways what are your thoughts? I'd like to hear all your opinions because since these odd things happeneing recently it just made my mind run quite a bit. I know I'm making some leaps here but it's really the best theory I have that fits all of this. My life is normally pretty ordinary and neighborhood very calm so these small things stand out a little (while not on their own, they do together).

I guess best thing I can do it clean up my house for when they come with the search warrant... lol




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It could be because of them thinking your growing weed, the police raided someone in my apartment building because of that. And they knew about it from driving around with thermal camera's and from power sage

If mining is illegal in your country, i think that will land you into problem, but if not there is no problem. But i think there is no harm in stopping the guy and ask him few questions.

To begin, make sure bitcoin and mining of it is not illegal, then contact your local police about what is going on, do submit proofs of what you are using the power for, after that kindly contact the power company with the same info you provided the police.I think it will help

So by now you all must be thinking "ok this dude is paranoid, how does any of this fit together?"...

1) When i called PGE they were really curious about my power usage, and my theory is police and power companies work together to catch people who grow weed.

2) My theory with this is he was some sort of private investigator hired to check out my house since it flagged me as some weed grower based on the power usage. He apparently asked my neighbor "is there a yard?". (The other theory with this guy is that maybe he was casing my apartment. I have a nice car in the drive way so maybe a thief looking for ways to break in.)

3) This one is what really got me thinking, not actually reading either one of these books I found out that 1984 is just kind of a "big brother is watching" type of book and Little Prince is a "Don't value money value people" type of moral. Now... I'm a young guy and innocent looking, I would not doubt that that private investigator was trying to tip me off that "someone is watching and my values need to change".


All of this has happened within two months since I started mining, I use about 70 KWh per day...

Anyways what are your thoughts? I'd like to hear all your opinions because since these odd things happeneing recently it just made my mind run quite a bit. I know I'm making some leaps here but it's really the best theory I have that fits all of this. My life is normally pretty ordinary and neighborhood very calm so these small things stand out a little (while not on their own, they do together).

I guess best thing I can do it clean up my house for when they come with the search warrant... lol




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Wow, that’s pretty scary. I would’ve become paranoid if that were to happen to me.

If you are not doing anything illegal, you shouldn’t worry. And if this is really because of the power company, then you should sor it out to them and make them understand every usage. But the thing you should’ve done was make them know what you will be doing with the elctricity. Doing this would’ve prevented any suspicions from the power company that might’ve lead them to doing what you think they are doing if they really have done it.

But you should still ask the police for help because you are not aure who is after you. Keepsafe.

Oh and yeah...back when I grew indoor my electric bill was over $1,000 a month cause I had like 6 1,000 Watt grow lights going, plus a dehumidifier, plus a huge power consuming fan you connect to ducting which connects to the hoods plus an air conditioner and a hydro clone tray and many regular fans all going at once. for most of the day. and some of those things have to stay powered on all day. So yeah it gets pretty crazy with electricity consumption when growing herbs indoor. One reason why I stopped actually...Cause the price of buds went down and my power bills were too expensive.
KayaMan

Yeah I have grown weed since I was 16 (stopped a few years ago) but my brothers still grow. One of my brothers lived in a nice neighborhood a few years ago and the cops showed up and said that they knew he was growing beause of his electric consumption... So my brother just moved. Lol.
So yeah, you could be right cause the cops do get info from electric companies.
Nothin to worry about if your not doing anything illegal man.

Peace&<3

KayaMan

Great story OP! I have never thought that power companies and authorities could mistake a mining operation for a metal halide and high pressure sodium grow lamp setup. Does make sense with a single standard MH and ballast drawing 1kw from the wall. I would not worry since you are not breaking any laws yet. Just keep your cameras up and insure your equipment. That "1984" book showing up would leave me spooked for days.

Great suggestion! Also make sure you have home insurance that will cover all your mining equipment.

Thats funny, I was thinking about this the other day. Im in an area where a lot of growing goes on, I believe they use helicopters with heat sensors and fly over to see if there is any fishy readings of heat mainly in the attic I assume.

I imagine the police going over my house and just seeing a PC sized object glowing red in my front room haha.

Also, if mining ever becomes obsolete or I lose interest or whatever, it would be easy for me to swap over to growing because the electricity readings would probably be similar.

Hmmm that gets me thinking..... which would be more profitable? xD

 

I wouldnt be afraid of the police, but of a thief or a group with malicious intent towards you/your assets. Protect yourself bro, and be careful out there - might be even wise to rent a small room and move your farm there if you can afford it (and leave it as a secret and set up a cam there).

Any updates?  I could use a laugh today, too bloody hot here at the moment.

We've got a resurgence of civil forfeiture going on in the US, and that's a terrible shame, as in my opinion it's a fourth amendment violation.  If they do suspect you're a grower, and you do get raided on that suspicion, that would be the thing I would worry over, since they can perform a civil forfeiture without even ever charging you with anything.

Mining is not illegal and as long as you didn't convert any coins into USD you didn't commited any crime. Also be shure, once you sell any of your coins to declare the income and pay the proper taxes.
The most likely scenario is that the police is suspecting that you are growing weed so be shure to talk to them at your local station. This way you avoid them potentialy breaking your door.

If you do not violate the laws, then the police have no right to confiscate your mines.

Well it's a ridiculous idea but go to the police and make a report that someone is stalking you. And you are afraid he is going to rape you. I read you are a boy. I don't know iif bitcoin equipments will put you in any trouble in your country.

You have to worry only If Mining is banned in your country.In my Country ,Mining is very legal.Even I am paying for the consumed electricity legally.So no one can touch me.If mining was not legal in your country so.Just migrates from that place and do Mining and approved country.If so ,you no need to worry about this thing and all.

OP, they so think you have a grow farm going!  Lol, this is hilarious and I hope that no one is injured, nothing is damaged, and everything works out in the end.  This is why I think the concept of "no knock warrants" is always a disaster waiting to happen.

But, I guess I am REALLY screwed, since this time of year I start my pepper seedlings indoors (grow lights) and I mine a little crypto!  I am so doomed.

Lols, don't behave very suspicious out in your back yard and infront of your house because of your illusion that cops might be at your ass. With that move for sure you will be caught sooner than you think. But bitcoin is legal to mine and as long as you are paying the electricity bills no one will touch you. So I don't think you should be worried about it. Cops might be having precautionary steps against you and neighbour by looking around whether you are not building a quantum time machine or bomb or shit like that. ;-)

So by now you all must be thinking "ok this dude is paranoid, how does any of this fit together?"...

1) When i called PGE they were really curious about my power usage, and my theory is police and power companies work together to catch people who grow weed.

2) My theory with this is he was some sort of private investigator hired to check out my house since it flagged me as some weed grower based on the power usage. He apparently asked my neighbor "is there a yard?". (The other theory with this guy is that maybe he was casing my apartment. I have a nice car in the drive way so maybe a thief looking for ways to break in.)

3) This one is what really got me thinking, not actually reading either one of these books I found out that 1984 is just kind of a "big brother is watching" type of book and Little Prince is a "Don't value money value people" type of moral. Now... I'm a young guy and innocent looking, I would not doubt that that private investigator was trying to tip me off that "someone is watching and my values need to change".


All of this has happened within two months since I started mining, I use about 70 KWh per day...

Anyways what are your thoughts? I'd like to hear all your opinions because since these odd things happeneing recently it just made my mind run quite a bit. I know I'm making some leaps here but it's really the best theory I have that fits all of this. My life is normally pretty ordinary and neighborhood very calm so these small things stand out a little (while not on their own, they do together).

I guess best thing I can do it clean up my house for when they come with the search warrant... lol




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Based on the story you put down, even if you get visited you have no problems provided you pay up your electricity bills and are not doing any illegal activities, or maybe mining is illegal in your country, if you are not doing any of these then you are safe.

I wouldn't worry about it if you live in the US. The threshold for a warrant is really high. High power consumption in itself is not a indication of illegal drug manufacturing.

You're probably less likely to run into trouble by reporting to the police that you're mining Bitcoin than if they have to go through the trouble of getting a warrant only to find that they've wasted it all - and then catch you on a minor violation and throw the book at you out of frustration with the whole mess. It would be nice to think that our law enforcement officers aren't subject to such pettiness, but better safe than sorry, that's for sure. The chances of there being a vindictive ass in the police force are probably higher than the chances of there being a tech-fanatic who knows enough about networking, cryptography, and ASIC hardware to actually hack your mining operation. If you are actually being investigated, most likely their response will be "oh" and they'll send out an inspector to look at the building - if not, they might not even bother with inspecting it, and they might be able to help with whatever else is going on.