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legendary
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April 03, 2017, 05:00:23 PM
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Vaccination isn't really compulsory at all, The Parents decide whether or not to vaccinate the children not the government and many of these vaccinations drugs they bring to Africa are spoilt and cause even more harm.

Right. Now a lot of spoiled vaccinations are possible that have not even been tested by anyone. Many people die or become cripples every year because of vaccinations. Therefore, in any case, you need to hope for luck.

Hey! They spent a lot of money making those vaccines and preparing them for market. Just because their marketing team fell down on the job isn't any reason to toss all those spoiled shots.

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Vaccination isn't really compulsory at all, The Parents decide whether or not to vaccinate the children not the government and many of these vaccinations drugs they bring to Africa are spoilt and cause even more harm.

Right. Now a lot of spoiled vaccinations are possible that have not even been tested by anyone. Many people die or become cripples every year because of vaccinations. Therefore, in any case, you need to hope for luck.
sr. member
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Most of you here act as if pharmaceutical companies are evil because all they want is profit. Well guess what idiots, profit is what incentivizes them to create new & improve upon current medicine.
Stop this conspiracy theory bullshit when you have no idea what you're talking about.

Pharma companies are evil because they bribe FDA people to get a whole lot of their stuff to go through when it shouldn't happen.

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The vatican has been caught for bribery, money laundering & links to the mafia does this make all the Catholics evil and their religion false?

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Can you explain why life expectancy has increased significantly in the developed world due to effective medication treating health conditions if its all fake?

I suppose God just decided to gift us a few extra years to worship his allmighty ass.



Of course every company is in business to make money. But few industries have engaged in such widespread corrupt practices as big pharma. There are literally dozens of documentaries and hundreds of well researched books about corruption in the pharmaceutical industry in the United States. Maybe in other countries it is different, but most educated, well read people are aware that there are serious ethical problems with big pharma.

Comparing Vatican issues with big pharma is a mostly fair analogy, except nobody forces you to be Catholic. As the thread points out though, you can be forced to buy big pharma products, including vaccines.

Using "the plague" to justify forced vaccination programs is like using the titanic to justify only flying. Plagues, boat accidents, etc happen. A lot of people have died from medicines, should people therefore not take them?

How about just let people take whatever medicine they want, including vaccinations, and you can take vaccinations or not take them, or whatever. The issue is not the medicine part, it is the 'being forced to vaccinate your children' part.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/02/21/big-pharma-is-america-s-new-mafia.html

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/01/new-report-exposes-patient-advocacy-groups-as-a-big-pharma-scam/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3460321/How-Big-Pharma-greed-killing-tens-thousands-world-Patients-medicated-given-profitable-drugs-little-proven-benefits-leading-doctors-warn.html
legendary
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So the immunization of millions of people against smallpox, polio, yellow fever, typhoid, whooping cough, pneumoccal disease and major childhood killers like measles had no part?

What about the 30-60% of Europes population that was wiped out by the plague which can now be treated (not using Vitamin C or D)


These diseases had run their course when the vaccine was introduced. They would have quit shortly anyway. Natural foods and herbs can be used to treat the rest, and used properly would have prevented the plagues.

While it may be that vaccines did help with the plague each was designed for, using them weakened the immune system enough that more vaccines were needed for other things that wouldn't have cropped up if the first vaccine wasn't used. And on and on it goes.

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legendary
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So the immunization of millions of people against smallpox, polio, yellow fever, typhoid, whooping cough, pneumoccal disease and major childhood killers like measles had no part?

What about the 30-60% of Europes population that was wiped out by the plague which can now be treated (not using Vitamin C or D)

legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Can you explain why life expectancy has increased significantly in the developed world due to effective medication treating health conditions if its all fake?

I suppose God just decided to gift us a few extra years to worship his allmighty ass.



Hygiene and good food and water.    Cool
legendary
Activity: 2254
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Can you explain why life expectancy has increased significantly in the developed world due to effective medication treating health conditions if its all fake?

I suppose God just decided to gift us a few extra years to worship his allmighty ass.

legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
Pharma companies are evil because they bribe FDA people to get a whole lot of their stuff to go through when it shouldn't happen.

Cool

The vatican has been caught for bribery, money laundering & links to the mafia does this make all the Catholics evil and their religion false?

Cool


That's like saying that people who are tricked into buying and using medical drugs are evil.

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legendary
Activity: 2254
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Pharma companies are evil because they bribe FDA people to get a whole lot of their stuff to go through when it shouldn't happen.

Cool

The vatican has been caught for bribery, money laundering & links to the mafia does this make all the Catholics evil and their religion false?

Cool
legendary
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The amount of ignorance and stupidity in these comments is staggering.

Pharmacy is a mafia. I am sure about that. They produce medicines and sell them to third countries, for experiment. And I'm sure that they are involved in the development of various viruses, then to successfully fight their drugs and earn on it.

All new medicines require strict clinic trials and FDA approval before a company can even CONSIDER getting it outside of the lab.
And they develop viruses? As if the world doesn't have enough diseases that need treatment? Where the fuck do they get money to create a virus AND a cure for it?
Did you confuse creating a computer virus with a real-life one?

Maybe Undecided Because if they produced good medicines, the number of sick people would have been reduced long ago. And so on the contrary people become addicted to drugs. Pharmacies are very profitable.

Good and bad medicines? what the fuck? Synthroid either treats hypothiroidism with minimal side effects or it doesn't. What does addiction to drugs have to do with anything? Do you become addicted to sweating from prescription medicine?


Pharmaceutical companies only have 10 years to make a profit after they successfully release a new medicine. That's because patents can only last 10 years.
During this period, they can set whatever prices they want to offset the cost of researching. After the patent expires a clone is made and FDA makes it a generic, for a few dollars.

Most of you here act as if pharmaceutical companies are evil because all they want is profit. Well guess what idiots, profit is what incentivizes them to create new & improve upon current medicine.
Stop this conspiracy theory bullshit when you have no idea what you're talking about.

Pharma companies are evil because they bribe FDA people to get a whole lot of their stuff to go through when it shouldn't happen.

Cool
legendary
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BADecker is one crazy individual.

Believes in god unconditonally because of the bible but refutes medical science despite numerous independant studies and evidence observed over the last hundred or so years with repeatable results stating

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Stop believing in the medical religion. Vitamin D3 plus vitamin C alone, in sufficient quantities, would cure most of the maladies that everyone has.

Statements like this could even be potentially dangerous to people equally as stupid that may take his advice on board instead of seeking proper medical advice.

Also Acknowledging Vitamin C & D3 is actually referencing medical science to begin with - no fixing stupid Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

sr. member
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The amount of ignorance and stupidity in these comments is staggering.

Pharmacy is a mafia. I am sure about that. They produce medicines and sell them to third countries, for experiment. And I'm sure that they are involved in the development of various viruses, then to successfully fight their drugs and earn on it.

All new medicines require strict clinic trials and FDA approval before a company can even CONSIDER getting it outside of the lab.
And they develop viruses? As if the world doesn't have enough diseases that need treatment? Where the fuck do they get money to create a virus AND a cure for it?
Did you confuse creating a computer virus with a real-life one?

Maybe Undecided Because if they produced good medicines, the number of sick people would have been reduced long ago. And so on the contrary people become addicted to drugs. Pharmacies are very profitable.

Good and bad medicines? what the fuck? Synthroid either treats hypothiroidism with minimal side effects or it doesn't. What does addiction to drugs have to do with anything? Do you become addicted to sweating from prescription medicine?


Pharmaceutical companies only have 10 years to make a profit after they successfully release a new medicine. That's because patents can only last 10 years.
During this period, they can set whatever prices they want to offset the cost of researching. After the patent expires a clone is made and FDA makes it a generic, for a few dollars.

Most of you here act as if pharmaceutical companies are evil because all they want is profit. Well guess what idiots, profit is what incentivizes them to create new & improve upon current medicine.
Stop this conspiracy theory bullshit when you have no idea what you're talking about.
sr. member
Activity: 462
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Since most of the disease they are vaccinating are communicable, it is very compulsory that children are vaccinated against them for the protection of everyone the child gets in contact with.

If you want to be extra protected and make sure your child does not get certain diseases then you should have your child vaccinated. That way even if their friends get, for example, chicken pox, your kid probably won't.

If another parent does not want their kid vaccinated then maybe their kid will get chicken pox while your kid will not because he or she is vaccinated.

A lot of health issues can strike anybody and a person should decide for theirself whether, for example, they want to eat food that has cholesterol, smoke, vaccinate against dozens of possible diseases they might catch, wear a seatbelt, eat food with uncertain chemical additives, ride a bike, go swimming without a life vest, wear sunscreen out in the sun, and so on. More and more these decisions are being taken away from the individual.
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Since most of the disease they are vaccinating are communicable, it is very compulsory that children are vaccinated against them for the protection of everyone the child gets in contact with.
sr. member
Activity: 462
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Vaccination isn't really compulsory at all, The Parents decide whether or not to vaccinate the children not the government and many of these vaccinations drugs they bring to Africa are spoilt and cause even more harm.

In the United States it is compulsory. If your kids are not vaccinated they cannot go to school and you may go to jail. Some kids have died from being unvaccinated and some from being vaccinated. The big issue really though is that the pharma companies that encourage the vacc mentality have quite a bit of political power in the U.S. You can research big pharma in the U.S., they are very powerful.

From http://www.nvic.org/standup/

"Vaccination should be a choice, not a requirement.

But today, you may not have that choice. Why? Because vaccines are big business in America. The market for pediatric vaccines is predicted to quadruple by the year 2016 to more than $16 billion.

For the past 25 years, every vaccine created by the pharmaceutical industry for children has been recommended by the Federal Government for use by all American children. Americans buy and are required to use more vaccines than citizens in any other nation in the world.

In 1982, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommended 23 doses of 7 vaccines for children up to age six. Today, the CDC recommends that children take 48 doses of 14 vaccines by age six.

But do more vaccines mean healthier children?
In 1983, one in 10,000 children were diagnosed with autism. Today, 1 child in 150 develops autism.
One out of 6 American children is learning disabled.
One in 9 has asthma and one in 450 is diabetic
Serious vaccine reactions include brain damage and even death. Sometimes, vaccine reactions can be serious and life-threatening. Learn how you can reduce the risk of a serious vaccine reaction.

The worst is yet to come. With the recent addition of annual flu shots for all infants and children, the CDC now recommends that children get 69 doses of 16 vaccines by age 18.
It's about informed consent. A right we should all have.

We believe Americans should have the opportunity to make smart decisions about using vaccines and other pharmaceutical products.

But in some states, you can be threatened with fines and imprisonment if you do not give your children vaccines. Yes, Americans can be arrested for not vaccinating their children! That's wrong.

In November 2007, government officials in Maryland threatened several thousand parents with jail time and stiff fines if they do not have their children vaccinated for chickenpox and hepatitis B.

US soldiers face the court martial and prison if they do not take experimental vaccines."
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Vaccination isn't really compulsory at all, The Parents decide whether or not to vaccinate the children not the government and many of these vaccinations drugs they bring to Africa are spoilt and cause even more harm.
full member
Activity: 127
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You connect medicine and pharmaceuticals. Are two different things. From the point of view of medicine polio is not defeated because the cases are. The point of view of the pharmacists nobody cares because it is aimed at making a profit and has no evidence. Even if some of the sales experts claimed.

In the United States at least "medicine" is controlled by the companies that make pharmaceuticals, so while what you say is true, it has no relevance to America.
Pharmacy is a mafia. I am sure about that. They produce medicines and sell them to third countries, for experiment. And I'm sure that they are involved in the development of various viruses, then to successfully fight their drugs and earn on it.

Maybe Undecided Because if they produced good medicines, the number of sick people would have been reduced long ago. And so on the contrary people become addicted to drugs. Pharmacies are very profitable.
sr. member
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A more recent version of the vaccine issue.
https://www.facebook.com/MerckMMRLawsuit/

In the last several weeks there have been articles about mumps outbreaks.
https://www.sott.net/article/344929-Mumps-outbreaks-continue-to-spread-across-the-USA

"Mumps Cases Swell in the Dallas Area"
"Health officials are urging immunization to prevent the spread of mumps"

http://www.precisionvaccinations.com/health-officials-are-urging-immunization-prevent-spread-mumps

2016 saw the biggest spike in Mumps cases in 10 years, and 2017 might be bigger.

https://www.cdc.gov/mumps/outbreaks.html

There is a vaccine for Mumps, Merck makes a lot of money on it. In the last few years though some scientists from Merck and other companies have suggested Merck falsified the results of the vaccine studies to make the vaccine look as if it were 95% effective.

http://blogs.wsj.com/pharmalot/2015/06/08/merck-is-accused-of-stonewalling-over-effectiveness-of-mumps-vaccine/

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/lawrence-solomon/merck-whistleblowers_b_5881914.html

Merck has absolutely nothing to worry about. Aside from having much more powerful lawyers than critics, including anti vaccine people, Merck also owns the U.S. govt regulators who ultimately decide how significant its mistakes were. Always the same smoke and mirrors, the appearance of a big fine that is simply ignored and business as usual.

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You connect medicine and pharmaceuticals. Are two different things. From the point of view of medicine polio is not defeated because the cases are. The point of view of the pharmacists nobody cares because it is aimed at making a profit and has no evidence. Even if some of the sales experts claimed.

In the United States at least "medicine" is controlled by the companies that make pharmaceuticals, so while what you say is true, it has no relevance to America.
Pharmacy is a mafia. I am sure about that. They produce medicines and sell them to third countries, for experiment. And I'm sure that they are involved in the development of various viruses, then to successfully fight their drugs and earn on it.
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
You connect medicine and pharmaceuticals. Are two different things. From the point of view of medicine polio is not defeated because the cases are. The point of view of the pharmacists nobody cares because it is aimed at making a profit and has no evidence. Even if some of the sales experts claimed.

In the United States at least "medicine" is controlled by the companies that make pharmaceuticals, so while what you say is true, it has no relevance to America.
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