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Topic: Polio Wasn't Vanquished, It Was Redefined - page 2. (Read 1428 times)

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You connect medicine and pharmaceuticals. Are two different things. From the point of view of medicine polio is not defeated because the cases are. The point of view of the pharmacists nobody cares because it is aimed at making a profit and has no evidence. Even if some of the sales experts claimed.
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The point isn't what causes polio or meningitis. The point is how the symptoms have changed simply by the heads of the medical rewriting them.

It's like the sky has always been blue, is now, and always will be. But somebody came along and said the sky color is green.

It's like the flat earth people who say that there isn't any gravity. They say that the thing that holds people on the earth is density. They don't care that people are held on the earth by some force or whatever. All they care about is that it is called density rather than gravity.

The causes of polio and meningitis have always been the same forever into the past. The difference is the description of which symptoms make up polio and which ones make up meningitis. It's essentially a semantics game that the medical uses to cover up their failures so that they can keep on making money.

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I understand the difference between 'semantic games' played by, for example, the medical community, and practicalities like whether a disease has been vanquished. The topic of polio actually is relevant to both issues.

The professional medical community follows the path of highest profitability. That includes redefining things in a way that leads to more potential profit, but that redefining in turn leads to a pollution of the paradigms themselves that are used to understand things.

When you say "The causes of polio and meningitis have always been the same forever into the past", you are saying that you will buy some of what they are selling but not all. My point is that if they sell you rotten oranges you should examine the apples they are selling too.

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Worth noting too that there is an element of truth in everything even in lies. Flat earth people may talk about density but note that they know about the same amount about gravity as scientists, i.e., very little. Gravity is unique among fields in that it is most affected by the density of mass. The first assumption is that 'flat earth gravity' involves for example a person's density relative to water being similar, therefore less 'flat earth gravity' when a person is in water. But then you notice that means less gravity when the medium is more dense. So the flat earthers may seem to have a useless theory at the moment, but they have a 'foundation of physics' that may be more solid, with regard to gravity, than ours.
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Always a paradigm forms and there has to be resistance to changing it until there is solid evidence.

Polio is caused by an enterovirus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterovirus

Meningitis is usually caused by a non polio enterovirus https://www.cdc.gov/non-polio-enterovirus/

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1168529-overview

The popular paradigm of polio as not being that close to meningitis and the fact that treatment for the different enteroviruses are not consistent mean that one or more of these paradigms has to change.

Either a new treatment paradigm that is effective against the similar organisms, or a new model of viruses that describes the vague 'enteroviruses' more accurately as several very different organisms.

There seems to be a few people who had that idea

http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/polio-wasnt-vanquished-it-was-redefined/

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/

http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/polio.html

But medicine in most countries is a powerful lobby more than a science. Before you can challenge the science you have to kick the lobby in the balls.

The point isn't what causes polio or meningitis. The point is how the symptoms have changed simply by the heads of the medical rewriting them.

It's like the sky has always been blue, is now, and always will be. But somebody came along and said the sky color is green.

It's like the flat earth people who say that there isn't any gravity. They say that the thing that holds people on the earth is density. They don't care that people are held on the earth by some force or whatever. All they care about is that it is called density rather than gravity.

The causes of polio and meningitis have always been the same forever into the past. The difference is the description of which symptoms make up polio and which ones make up meningitis. It's essentially a semantics game that the medical uses to cover up their failures so that they can keep on making money.

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Too much propaganda against the vaccination campaigns. I was thinking that only the third world Islamists will be stupid enough to allow something like this. But now it seems that this sort of thinking has penetrated even in to the Western nations.

The people who oppose vaccination campaigns are not trying to force others to not get vaccinated.

On the other hand, those that support vaccinations do use force. Parents have had their children taken from them, even gone to jail, for declining to accept vaccination.

I agree with you that vaccination is a trivial issue for most people, but the issue of forcing ones' beliefs, under cover of 'benevolence' on others is not so trivial. Why should people who do not want vaccinations be forced to accept them? If you want to save children from polio or whatever then save your own. If you then want to save a stranger's child you are welcome to offer food, vaccines, whatever, but please don't use force while pretending to be a benevolent helper.
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Too much propaganda against the vaccination campaigns. I was thinking that only the third world Islamists will be stupid enough to allow something like this. But now it seems that this sort of thinking has penetrated even in to the Western nations.
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Always a paradigm forms and there has to be resistance to changing it until there is solid evidence.

Polio is caused by an enterovirus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterovirus

Meningitis is usually caused by a non polio enterovirus https://www.cdc.gov/non-polio-enterovirus/

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1168529-overview

The popular paradigm of polio as not being that close to meningitis and the fact that treatment for the different enteroviruses are not consistent mean that one or more of these paradigms has to change.

Either a new treatment paradigm that is effective against the similar organisms, or a new model of viruses that describes the vague 'enteroviruses' more accurately as several very different organisms.

There seems to be a few people who had that idea

http://www.thevaccinereaction.org/2015/07/polio-wasnt-vanquished-it-was-redefined/

http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2011/11/17/smoke-mirrors-and-the-disappearance-of-polio/

http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/polio.html

But medicine in most countries is a powerful lobby more than a science. Before you can challenge the science you have to kick the lobby in the balls.
legendary
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I don't even knew which news site to read anymore due to all the information spread on facebook and elsewhere. One day they said marijuana isn't good and one day they want diseases treated by marijuana and so on. Its ridiculous actually when people also spread some news like this one.

The greatest honesty that the medical has, exists in what they call the commercial business of a doctor. What is a doctor's business called? It is a "practice." Get it? The doctor doesn't really know what he is doing. He is just practicing. If that's what you like, go ahead.

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I don't even knew which news site to read anymore due to all the information spread on facebook and elsewhere. One day they said marijuana isn't good and one day they want diseases treated by marijuana and so on. Its ridiculous actually when people also spread some news like this one.
legendary
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Anybody is welcome to head over to his nearest medical library and read all the fake information he wants.

The stuff in the article isn't fake news. I lived through it, and many people of those days were talking about it. Nowadays we are having much more success getting the info out because of the Internet. We are finding out that the medical is a religion, and a false one... except if you are the people on top, raking in the money.

Stop believing in the medical religion. Vitamin D3 plus vitamin C alone, in sufficient quantities, would cure most of the maladies that everyone has.

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Yet again, when you're going to make a claim like this it'd be nice to see it from some sort of source that isn't as bullshit as this weird Wordpress site that you found on here. Two of my favorite sources of information for worldnews - a fucking .wordpress site and a .blogspot site.

Like, if you'd even like to be taken a tad more seriously on the authenticity of the claim here you could have at least bought a domain, how much are those these days like $10, maybe even $3 if you buy a shitty one.

Bunch of HORSESHIT
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Polio Wasn't Vanquished, It Was Redefined





What the apologists for the Salk vaccine regurgitate from a common script (… some might say scripture) is that before the vaccine was introduced and tested on one million children - the so-called "Polio Pioneers"- in 1954 more than 50,000 people in the U.S. were contracting polio each year, and that by the end of the 1950s the numbers were down to less than 10,000.3 Ergo, the Salk vaccine saved the U.S. from polio. Open and shut case.

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In order to qualify for classification as paralytic poliomyelitis, the patient had to exhibit paralytic symptoms for at least 60 days after the onset of the disease. Prior to 1954, the patient had to exhibit paralytic symptoms for only 24 hours. Laboratory confirmation and the presence of residual paralysis were not required. After 1954, residual paralysis was determined 10 to 20 days and again 50 to 70 days after the onset of the disease. This change in definition meant that in 1955 we started reporting a new disease, namely, paralytic poliomyelitis with a longer lasting paralysis.


Read more at http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2017/03/polio-wasnt-vanquished-it-was-redefined.html.


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Personal note: Back in the 1970s I found the information that showed that, after the Salk vaccine proved to be a failure, the Sabin vaccine (which also proved to be a failure, btw) was introduced. The Sabin oral vaccine was introduced at the same time the medical did a gigantic redefine of polio symptoms. This was a cover-up, so that the medical could save face from the failures. Starting approximately 1961, after the Sabin vaccine was introduced, and after the symptoms for polio were redefined, there suddenly was a drastic outbreak of spinal meningitis. Redefining did this.


In the event that anyone is interested in an insight into how the medical really works, and the sly ways the medical twists false proof into proof that vaccines work in the court, see https://gdsajj.wordpress.com/2011/04/15/the-polio-epidemic-scam-revisited/.


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