Topic: Polish-registered recyclix.com is a Ponzi scheme and provably so. - page 15. (Read 95492 times)

I actually think that your reasoning is boring and stupid. Talking about that user on moneymaker group, you should better READ ALL then you could understand he is a troll as everyone is getting paid and he is doing all this problem because he IS SAYING that he didn't receive a 20 euros payment with bitcoins. Do you know that bitcoin transaction sometimes could get stuck? We are talking about a 20 euros problem when we are getting hundreds and hundreds of money with no problem. THERE ARE NOT SELECTIVE PAYMENTS or you should have found many more problems like this? Use your brain.
Do we want to talk about the ID request? It has always been in the site if you deposit with credit card. That is just an edited image that has no sense. During the convenction on the last open day has been clearly told by them that they are increasing the checks on the ID in order to regularize their position. In fact they have signed a contract with a new provider of ID CHECKS. You should better get informed before to talk.

Concerning to all the story about Roman Parra, i can't explain that but i personally think that the payment is a fake one as the FEE for PAYPAL WITHDRAWALS is 3.5% and it has always been this one and the fee in that payment is different so it can't be true.

Oh...i just forgot one thing. Do you know that when you register on recyclix you sign a CONTRACT? Well, the ID request can be made at every moment as it is stated there. So what's the problem? If you have an account you MUST RESPECT THE CONTRACT...if you don't want to or if you have problems with this, you can just delete your account.

Ah, OK... you actually mean "provaby", like "beyond doubt, able to proof"...

I'd still urge you to:


As I (and probably many other "non-native-English-speakers" (and probably some native-English-speakers too) did read it as 'probably'... unfortunately.

[...]Identity theft is a by-product of these scams and I previously highlighted how a supposedly legitimate Colombian businessman, Roman Parra, who recently was attempting to run his own bitcoin exchange, is directly and provably linked to Recyclix through a company which is already implicated in identity theft. [...]

Note that it says 'provably' not 'probably'. But I'd remove it anyway, as 99% people will read it as 'probably'

Member of moneymaker forum pmp87 ( http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Recyclix-Recyclixcom-t493509.html&st=405 )
informs that Recyclix pays selectively and warns about possible identity thieft


pmp87 created mentioned thread more than year ago and all posts were positive. It has changed last days.

Oh I just can't help myself and I know the Recyclix shills and fanbois will be desperately claiming there isn't a connection so, here, let me show you the path from [email protected] Recyclix ponzi scammer through to Roman Parra, supposed respectable Bitcoin entrepreneur.

First, let's remind ourselves of the information revealed by the Recyclix payment back in their early days before they got their shit together:
As you can see they had to process fiat payments through their existing payment processor account, which was registered to a company called 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda' for which online searches show a history of fraudulent behaviour. This is where we first meet 'Roman Parra' by way of his hotmail address linked to that payment account.

So, now we've objectively established that the company behind Recyclix is 'C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda', let's see what information can be found about it:
As you can see, it is classed as a small promotions and advertising company.

But who is running the show there?
Oh look! It appears that a gentleman called, 'Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales' is the full name of the registered manager for this criminal enterprise.


Now, let's set about connecting the scammer Roman Eduardo Parra Gonzales, who owns the email account [email protected] to the supposedly respectable Roman Parra, bitcoin entrepreneur.

Prior to becoming the thieving douchebag he would later choose to be, a young Roman Parra attended University and studied Industrial Production and Engineering. He wrote a detailed thesis on the subject, in Spanish naturally, but we are not particularly interested in the content of this thesis, just the name and email address of the student named as its author:
Roman Parra Gonzales wrote this thesis and, as you see, his email address is the very same [email protected] who would later go on to become the fraudster douchebag behind many online scams.

This is a linkedin page the supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra has:
His 'legitimate' business interests are listed there, such as Colbitex, Bitcoin Suramerica and Woodshares, which shares remarkably similar characteristics to the enviro-friendly Recyclix scam as you 'invest' in trees, you know, for the environment! Roman Parra knows his shit when it comes to yanking people's chains about the environment and persuading them to part with their hard-earned cash on the promise of bigger returns, later.

His Twitter account also lists his CEO and Founder status of these companies:
Handily enough, it also shows he has another name after the 'Parra' beginning with 'G' and I'm betting big that is stands for, 'Gonzales'.

Ok, so now we have the 'CEO and Founder' of these supposedly legitimate bitcoin companies with the name 'Roman Parra Gonzales', anybody want to bet there's an 'Eduardo' in there, too?

But let's take a look at the rest of his linkedin page:
How interesting! The supposedly respectable bitcoin entrepreneur version of Roman Parra studied Industrial Production and Engineering, as well as training as a Marketing Specialist. Remember that C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda is listed as an advertising and promotions company? My, how the young engineering student has grown!

Funny how he fails to mention being manager of C.I. Alternative Trade Ltda in the list of companies in his linkedin profile.

It seems it is still active in various scams and can be found mentioned in places such as ScamGuard!
https://www.scamguard.com/million-wishescom/?page=2

Just goes to show, once a scamming douchebag, always a scamming douchebag.

Now, about those bitcointalk accounts and threads he created to promote his 'legitimate' operations. . .

As i know, they still claim that there is no pyramid, and that revenues comes from waste recycling.
Where they admit that are Ponzi scheme?

Now, on to the part where the scammers' own small-print clearly states them to be a Ponzi scheme:


This tells you that they are stating they will use your money to pay other users - Ponzi scheme.

At least they admit they're a pyramid scheme..
Somewhat honest, unlike MasterTrader (check sig)

@cryptodevil: Could you please rename this thread from:

'Polish-registered recyclix.com is provably a Ponzi scheme'

into:

'Polish-registered recyclix.com is a Ponzi scheme'.

I think the overwhelming prove you guys provided says it all.

BTW, thanks for that (and you all others - like Bruno - too) !

No, a company is supposed to have a separate account for client funds and one for company funds. Two accounts only are needed. Not one for every user.

Did you expected them to keep the money in a number of bank account equal to the number of the users? That has no sense. Please read again the contract, that part is no more available then stop saying this as it is false.

Recyclix Sp.z o.o may merge these funds with the funds of other Users and its proprietary funds. These merged funds may be used for payments to other Users or for the sake of our mutual corporate aims or otherwise. However, Recyclix Sp.z o.o. shall in any case pay or return you the funds according to this Payment Policy and the Terms of Use.

Google AmberGold, huge Ponzi also operating in Poland for 3 years. They had legit office, employees, advertised everywhere, fuck, they even owned small airline and employed prime minister's son. Eventually inevitable happened and they collapsed and owner got jailed (he had something like 6 or more previous suspended sentences for fraud).

If you have enough suckers to buy into it, costs of renting an office or even small factory and employing few people are not that big.

The fucked up thing is that Polish authorities won't do shit until it collapses.

Both the Borgminer idiot and the newcomer idiot to this thread, SergheiBabliuc, are Scrypt.cc idiots, too.

So I'd give up on trying to get them to acknowledge the facts, they are terminally and wilfully dumb.

"Buh...bu..buuuut. . . .organised criminal gangs seeking to make millions of dollars in easy-to-hide bitcoins wouldn't use a tiny fraction of that to rent offices, or factories or attend expos and have 'open days' in order to fool even more people, surely?"

^^^ Yeah, it's that kinda thought process they are stuck in.

The sort of moron who thought 'Marcello' over at scrypt.cc was a real person who was travelling the world making super-special deals for super-secret mining hardware, because he told them so.

Unless you made it up. In which case I feel another deflection incoming.

2. Oh yeah, Recyclix has a partner, and this partner has a partner which know a person which sister knows a man who has a cousin that eat lunch in McDonald and recycled 2 empty cups, and so on... come on...

Are you still partnering with Plamika UAB to handle the waste from McDonald's in The Netherlands which you said they are directly contracted for?