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Topic: Polish-registered recyclix.com is a Ponzi scheme and provably so. - page 19. (Read 95511 times)

legendary
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The email used are .every country like .ru and other if you look at all the payment proofs so this doesen't mean anything.

Are you even trying to think or just so invested in Recyclix making you rich that you can't let go of the dream?

Look:
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See the sender is named as "Agribest OU", yes? That is an Estonian company.
See the Customer Service Email is shown as "[email protected]"? That would be the domain for the Estonian company.

But the ONLY bit of data in that sender information which is properly verified and necessary for using the account is the 'Payment Sent From' field which, as you can see and as I already fucking pointed out, is NOT Agribest OU or agribestou.com, it is a completely different domain and entity, one called agribeste.co, a Colombian domain.

Remember? Just like the Colombian company "Alternative Trade Ltda" who sent out the payment before this fake Agribest OU/agribeste account, which had as its manager the Colombian "Roman Parra"




So they are spinning the fact that the Italian authorities have blocked access to recyclix.com by claiming that they are cooperating with them to sort it out and will have it resolved in 'weeks'?
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Noting, in fact, that such statements are not substantiated by any documentary source - given that the company, despite the requests of Consob, has refused to provide contract used in customer relations - and also do not appear consistent with that published in the website www .recyclix.com;


Because the reason the Italian authorities have blocked recyclix.com from being accessed is because, as the bold text above demonstrates, Recyclix are NOT cooperating and have NOT proven they are a legit operation, something they could easily do with a copy of their P&L (Profit & Loss) numbers.

If they were actually making the profit needed to cover the returns they claim to offer their 'investors', they could prove in a single stroke that they were not operating as a ponzi scheme.

They cannot, because they are operating as a ponzi scheme and they know damn well the Italian authorities are not going to remove that block.

BTW, I see there's STILL no mention on facebook from any of you fanbois of the McDonald's claim having been thrown into the memory hole by these scammers. Shouldn't you be demanding answers for why you were lied to?




newbie
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Borgminer, can you send me your money? I have business idea based on collecting oxygen from air. It is free stuff. You should send me 1000EUR and in a week there is 1454% ROI.  Grin
newbie
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The email used are .every country like .ru and other if you look at all the payment proofs so this doesen't mean anything.
legendary
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I know the company recyclix is real .  cryptoshit doesnt seem to want to counter that claim . 

GTFO of this thread you ponzi-loving twat. Recyclix being an incorporated company is not proof of them not operating as a ponzi scheme. Sheesh, I don't know whether you have to try hard to be this fucking dumb or if it comes easy to you.

garbage they acquire is free .   so how can they not turn it into a profit ?

So people drive themselves up to the recycling plant to hand-deliver their personal plastic waste, hmm? They don't need a network of trucks and people and collection points and advertising? The people who sort plastic don't have to be paid? The machines don't need fuel or electricity and the plant has no overheads?

Seriously, just stop. You are an actual proven idiot.

Actually, how do you understand that the email is Colombian...how do you know that? Offer some proves.

FFS, here, let me google that for you, you lazy bastard.

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hero member
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so the factories arent real and recycling free garbage isnt profitable ?

Recycling foil to produce pellets is mature market. You can not enter it with one standard working line located in "partner" company, win worldwide competition and offer investors 15% of return in 5 weeks. This is pure business-fiction.


the garbage they acquire is free .   so how can they not turn it into a profit ?
newbie
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so the factories arent real and recycling free garbage isnt profitable ?

Recycling foil to produce pellets is mature market. You can not enter it with one standard working line located in "partner" company, win worldwide competition and offer investors 15% of return in 5 weeks. This is pure business-fiction.
newbie
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Actually, how do you understand that the email is Colombian...how do you know that? Offer some proves.
hero member
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I know the company recyclix is real .  cryptoshit doesnt seem to want to counter that claim . 

Yes, they are real as Bernie Madoff. You can still meet Bernie and shake his real hand  Grin

so the factories arent real and recycling free garbage isnt profitable ?
newbie
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I know the company recyclix is real .  cryptoshit doesnt seem to want to counter that claim . 

Yes, they are real as Bernie Madoff. You can still meet Bernie and shake his real hand  Grin
hero member
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  but then can anyone explain the cameras posted on their new facility being made ?

Yeah. I can. New facility is build by ECO REVOLUTION POLSKA (capital about 230000 EUR ) CEO is Mikhail Chuzhaikin. And owner of some other low capital LTD companies (about 1000 EUR each) created 2014-2015.

KONLI
EKOPLASTIX
POLINNTEX

But all of ECO REVOLUTION POLSKA shares belongs to Sivaks Aleksandrs ( read opinions about his business in Latvia: http://www.sudzibas.lv/sia-eurto-concord-aleksandrs-sivaks-aleksandrs-sivaks-c9325 ). And they know Recyclix.

POLLINTEX were trying before to put the factory in 2 other locations but local people protested, company did not deliver enviromental assesment documents nor tender guarantee (article in polish: http://tygodnikkrag.pl/index.php/kozuchow2/item/1032-polinntex-ucieka-ze-strefy ). In Lobez they somehow succeed to get permission.

I know the company recyclix is real .  cryptoshit doesnt seem to want to counter that claim . 
newbie
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3)Actually Payments from Paypal are being payed by Agribest OU, why don't you find more about this instead of looking for 1 year ago payments?

You know what? I just did. Funny thing is how the payment from 'Agribest OU' an Estonian company is being made from a Colombian domain's email account that has a different spelling, 'agribeste.co'.
7)Talking about the Contract with McDonalds they will surely give more informations about that. Just look at this afternoon conference.

Yeah that point didn't work out well for you, either.



Actually, how do you understand that the email is Colombian...how do you know that? Offer some proves.
newbie
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  but then can anyone explain the cameras posted on their new facility being made ?

Yeah. I can. New facility is build by ECO REVOLUTION POLSKA (capital about 230000 EUR ) CEO is Mikhail Chuzhaikin. And owner of some other low capital LTD companies (about 1000 EUR each) created 2014-2015.

KONLI
EKOPLASTIX
POLINNTEX

But all of ECO REVOLUTION POLSKA shares belongs to Sivaks Aleksandrs ( read opinions about his business in Latvia: http://www.sudzibas.lv/sia-eurto-concord-aleksandrs-sivaks-aleksandrs-sivaks-c9325 ). And they know Recyclix.

POLLINTEX were trying before to put the factory in 2 other locations but local people protested, company did not deliver enviromental assesment documents nor tender guarantee (article in polish: http://tygodnikkrag.pl/index.php/kozuchow2/item/1032-polinntex-ucieka-ze-strefy ). In Lobez they somehow succeed to get permission.
hero member
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You're an idiot.

Two back-to-back posts which contribute nothing to this discussion. Try actually reading the thread instead of posting vapid nonsense.

The low price of oil means it is cheaper to produce high-quality plastic from petrochemical precursors than to collect, sort, clean and grind plastic waste to recycle for pellets of variable quality.




what the fuck are you crying about . the first post was a question you dumb fuck . the second post was in regards to profits .   learn to read and comprehend you fucking idiot
legendary
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You're an idiot.

Two back-to-back posts which contribute nothing to this discussion. Try actually reading the thread instead of posting vapid nonsense.

The low price of oil means it is cheaper to produce high-quality plastic from petrochemical precursors than to collect, sort, clean and grind plastic waste to recycle for pellets of variable quality.

hero member
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You dont have any clues these "numbers" are real or not real, and plastic recycle are real or not real,

I don't need to think if the numbers on the screen are real or not real when the claimed business underlying them cannot possibly be making the amount of profit needed to offer their 'investors' the high returns they do.

Plastics recycling across the world is struggling to survive due to the slump in oil prices. None of them are making anything like the sort of income from it that Recyclix would have to be making.

Therefore the *only* way for them to be structured and offer the claimed returns that they do, is as a ponzi scheme.





Most plastic containers have a triangle with a number and abbreviation to tell you what grade of plastic they are made from. This makes separation for recycling easier. Post consumer plastics if cleaned and shredded and in some cases baled are worth from $50 – $480 per ton. HDPE is one of the most sought after it’s used in most of the consumer products we buy from disposable oil containers to car bumpers. With the current oil crunch the value of this material is only going to increase.
hero member
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can anyone explain the videos made at a recycling facility(with recyclix signs) ? or is the company real and the site a fraud ?   but then can anyone explain the cameras posted on their new facility being made ?
legendary
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3)Actually Payments from Paypal are being payed by Agribest OU, why don't you find more about this instead of looking for 1 year ago payments?

You know what? I just did. Funny thing is how the payment from 'Agribest OU' an Estonian company is being made from a Colombian domain's email account that has a different spelling, 'agribeste.co'.
7)Talking about the Contract with McDonalds they will surely give more informations about that. Just look at this afternoon conference.

Yeah that point didn't work out well for you, either.

legendary
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Bad news is that they collect copies of ID's/passports from their "investors". Think why.

I can think why:
https://www.scamguard.com/million-wishescom/?page=2
And this factory they showed today (and first one that seemed to be really functional)  is factory of www.eko-recykling.com.pl (they called them partner).

Wow they really don't care anymore if they're relying on bullshit about 'partner' factories to pretend like they are a legit recycling company.

BTW, it seems McDonald's lawyers have had words:

Their "Summer Update" news page, which originally had this text:
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Now it’s time to pass on to the news about the business growth that Recyclix experienced over the last month. Waste recycling became a really important issue in Europe since the EU government signed laws that prohibit proliferation of landfills and seek to put burial and burning of plastic waste to an end by 2020.

This July Recyclix made yet another important step towards making this goal a reality. We have signed an important long-term contract with the Dutch department of McDonalds for collecting of plastic packaging and its further recycling at our plants. Apart from helping clean the world from harmful plastic waste, which otherwise might have ended up at landfills, this business deal makes us one step closer to becoming the Europe’s biggest recycling company that processes almost 2800 tons of plastic waste every month and keeps growing at an extremely rapid rate.

Another crucially important thing that we would like to share with you today is the commencement of construction of a new massive waste processing plant in the Polish city of Łobez. In 12 months — when the construction works will be over and the plant will be up and running — it will produce over 2000 tons monthly of LDPE, PE and PP granules that will be used by dozens of European businesses to make high-quality and eco-friendly goods for thousands of people all around the world.

Now doesn't show the paragraph about Micky D's:
https://recyclix.com/news/open-days-in-polland-summer-update
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Now it’s time to pass on to the news about the business growth that Recyclix experienced over the last month. Waste recycling became a really important issue in Europe since the EU government signed laws that prohibit proliferation of landfills and seek to put burial and burning of plastic waste to an end by 2020.

Another crucially important thing that we would like to share with you today is the commencement of construction of a new massive waste processing plant in the Polish city of Łobez. In 12 months — when the construction works will be over and the plant will be up and running — it will produce over 2000 tons monthly of LDPE, PE and PP granules that will be used by dozens of European businesses to make high-quality and eco-friendly goods for thousands of people all around the world.

So, for any Recyclix fanbois from facebook who might be reading, you should probably mention something to your fellow investors victims. You were lied to.

For any Recyclix lawyers reading this, you need to do something about all the 'fan pages' of copy-pasta blogs used for gaining reflink clicks, because plenty of them still have the McDonald's paragraph on them and are going to be drawing more gullible people in on the back of that copy-pasted lie. You know, the claim your clients made which has been proven to be the complete and utter bollocks it always was.


newbie
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They hired woman from Latvian Ministry of Environmental Protection to make a speech.  Grin Nice move.  Bad news is that they collect copies of ID's/passports from their "investors". Think why.
And this factory they showed today (and first one that seemed to be really functional)  is factory of www.eko-recykling.com.pl (they called them partner).

legendary
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...the stench of desperation...

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Noting, in fact, that such statements are not substantiated by any documentary source - given that the company, despite the requests of Consob, has refused to provide contract used in customer relations - and also do not appear consistent with that published in the website www .recyclix.com;
Do you know what the bold part tells us? That the company is not co-operating with the Italian authorities and is refusing to provide any paperwork to support their case. If they were legit they'd have swiftly proven so, but they can't because they aren't.

2) Firstly, the money is paid by Roman Parra to the receiver as though the receiver had sold an item to him, hence the "Buyer email" label. Paypal puts a fee on the vendor side of sales, which is how Recyclix made sure to not be liable for transaction fees because their 'investors' were paid as though they were vendors. Secondly Roman Parra didn't have an exchange business at that time. Colbitex.com was only registered as a domain in September.

3) Why are you so concerned about this payment from June 2015 that you want me, instead, to focus on a different payment processor they used later? It isn't as if somebody just made up the payment details. Alternative Trade Ltda is flagged online as a scam operation already and given that this payment is from the early days it is usually when scammers make mistakes because they don't envisage the operation becoming as big as this one has and in their greed they don't consider the electronic trail they are leaving behind. BTW considering that they are supposedly a Polish operation, why would they have used a Colombian company to make their Paypal payments?

4) Do you know what Roman Parra is qualified as, apart from being an industrial process engineer? He is a marketing specialist and you cannot deny that Recyclix are *real* fucking good at marketing themselves. As for claiming they can't have set up these open days, you clearly know nothing about corporate events, which is all this is. Throw a bunch of money at something you use to promote your business and make much much more back in return. That's the purpose of these open days.

5) Which leads me to this point which, again, ignores the simple fact that they make so much money from this scam they can easily afford to slip some money to a recycling plant to let them put up some banners and show some people around. Hell, they could easily afford to buy the damn thing given the fact that there has been NO MONEY IN PLASTICS RECYCLING for years since the oil price tumbled.

6) What is this comment even for about the Italian translation? You are in denial.

7) Oh I am just waiting to hear which bullshit excuse they come up with to explain why we won't learn the name of this supposed McDonald's contractor they are sub-contracted to. Because you *do* know they can't possibly name a company because McDonald's are absolutely adamant they have no relationship with Recyclix, contrary to Recyclix's bullshit claims.

8)Do you know that if Bernie Madoff's ponzi operation were running today many of the staff who worked for him would have facebook profiles and normal family lives, too?

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