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As the 2019/2020 season has ended this thread is now locked.

I created a new thread for the English Premier League Season: 2020/2021 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5275303

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No I did not forget about it  Grin

Since the season is over I thought what was the point to keep posting. I will lock the thread since it has fulfilled its purpose. I will open another one for the new season and hope you post there too examplens.

Thank you for inviting me to the betting pool but I will have to decline however I wish you and all others participating in that threads lots of success and lots of fun. I do not know who is taking part but I hope you win the 0.3 BTC when the new season ends maybe just for keeping this thread alive  Grin



Jolly, have you forgotten about this thread?  Cheesy
Maybe you can join on betting pools for the English Premier League, also it's opened to all forum members. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetios-english-premier-league-football-pool-sign-up-thread-00045-2-join-5270461
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Jolly, have you forgotten about this thread?  Cheesy
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we expect to be over 30+ players with pot 0.3+ BTC, with the help of Sportsbet.io sponsors.
There will be thread limited only for pool members, so no spam there.
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Congratulations to Liverpool, to win the Premiership after 30 years.

Congratulations to Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea to get the European Champions League places.

Well done to Leicester City, Sheffield United and Wolverhampton Wanderers for an excellent campaign too.
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WEDNESDAY 17TH JUNE 2020

Aston Villa vs Sheff Utd (6pm kick-off)

Man City vs Arsenal (815pm kick-off)


The Premier League is back !
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EPL games kick-off on 17th June 2020. The season will re-start in stadiums without fans being present but at least it will allow the season to come to an end.

Every game with be broadcast live on BBC, Amazon, BT Sport and SKY.

The BBC will have 4 live games

Amazon will have 4 live games which will be free (no Amazon Prime subscription required)

SKY will show 64 live games with 25 being shown for free (no Sky Sports subscription required) and the remainder only with subscription

BT Sport will show 20 live games

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 Grin

Well, with the EPL finally being talked about with a view to re-starting then completing the season as fast as they cam, I thought it was time for me to post here again  Wink

OP, where you are?  Grin You disappear with pandemic and almost forget for this topic. Wink

Well those Premier League matches will be played out live across various television stations including the BBC and ITV just to ensure all games are completed before 31st July 2020 and they are all available to watch.

How that fits in with the huge fee BT Sports and SKY television paid for the rights to broadcasts live matches is unclear for now.


of course, it won’t be the same as with a full stadium, but after a long time without PL football, we will now have a large number of games in a short time. In the end, we must be satisfied, I just hope something positive happens and everything will be normal next season.
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OP, where you are?  Grin You disappear with pandemic and almost forget for this topic. Wink

Well those Premier League matches will be played out live across various television stations including the BBC and ITV just to ensure all games are completed before 31st July 2020 and they are all available to watch.

How that fits in with the huge fee BT Sports and SKY television paid for the rights to broadcasts live matches is unclear for now.


of course, it won’t be the same as with a full stadium, but after a long time without PL football, we will now have a large number of games in a short time. In the end, we must be satisfied, I just hope something positive happens and everything will be normal next season.
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Well those Premier League matches will be played out live across various television stations including the BBC and ITV just to ensure all games are completed before 31st July 2020 and they are all available to watch.

How that fits in with the huge fee BT Sports and SKY television paid for the rights to broadcasts live matches is unclear for now.


Yes the epl has proceeded with its plan to restart the league this month behind closed doors; this has seen few clubs return funds back to season ticket hodlers.
The added benefit is that, there will be a vote by clubs sides, if they will be interested in fake crowd noise to be put in place in different stadiums to cheer the players up.

Time will tell if it will be approved.
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With the Premier League actioning players to start training with their clubs again, it seems they are trying to end the season by playing games behind closed stadiums with no fans and spectators otherwise there would be no fair way to determine who should be relegated and who should finish in the Champions League or Europa League places.

Things look like they are moving forward and the games will start later this month.

Yes the epl has proceeded with its plan to restart the league this month behind closed doors; this has seen few clubs return funds back to season ticket hodlers.
The added benefit is that, there will be a vote by clubs sides, if they will be interested in fake crowd noise to be put in place in different stadiums to cheer the players up.

Time will tell if it will be approved.
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With the Premier League actioning players to start training with their clubs again, it seems they are trying to end the season by playing games behind closed stadiums with no fans and spectators otherwise there would be no fair way to determine who should be relegated and who should finish in the Champions League or Europa League places.

Things look like they are moving forward and the games will start later this month.
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Come on people, what are your opinions? This thread could do with some more votes  Grin
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They might struggle to find a vaccine, if that’s the case then what do we do, will the world stop?
We will continue to stay under lock down until our governmental agencies find a solution which might be a vaccine or some preventative measures via medication. The world has not stopped throughout the coronavirus pandemic and will continue as is.


At some stage the economy is going to go bust, people have to go back to work or we face a situation where looting & purging will become a reality.
People can only go back to work if there are any places of employment remaining to go back to. I prefer an economy going bust rather than having a situation where no preventative or precautionary steps are taken to minimise the effects of a virus that has the potential to kill hundreds of millions if not billions of people but right now it is not clear whether a medical solution will be found before economies of various nations start going bust.

If people are going to go out to loot property then many will argue the police and army of those nations affected should have the right to use force to stop the perpetrators of any illegal activities, arrest them and hopefully present them to a judge in a Court of law.


I think at some stage governments are going to have to weigh up what’s more important, world economies or a minority of older people dying?
Men and women of all ages are dying from coronavirus. By far those that are either elderly or those that have suffered from pre-existing medical conditions have been disproportionately affected thus becoming victims but it is clear the young and healthy are dying too. Either way if world economies ever get together to consider returning to pre-COVID19 days without finding a vaccine or without ensuring immunisation allowing some of their population to be collateral damage - I hope they decide to extend lock downs around the world if it means lowering the death rate and it means my small sacrifice of staying put inside my home for the forseable future (apart from trips once every 7-10 days to the supermarket) is a small price to pay when looking at the bigger picture.


My solution to play football would be behind closed doors (to begin with) with several ambulances & medics present incase of injury.
I cannot see medically qualified people on the sidelines of a football pitch helping stop the spread of coronavirus between football players during the course of a match. There will be a squad of maybe 20 players from each team, at least 4 match officials, maybe between 8-10 staff from each side including Manager/Coach and their assistants. They will have their own medical teams with them along with their other essential personnel. There will be up to maybe 35-40 people per team so you can say minimum of 80+ football related people in a stadium while the game is going on, add to that the ambulance drivers/paramedics and police. If any one of the people present has coronavirus or catches it and takes it home to their colleagues or family then was that football match worth it?

Yes in your scenario the players will be tested for the virus beforehand but it is clear and it has been stated that people could be carrying it without showing any symptoms. Even if one of those players slips through the net because his tests showing him as coronavirus negative but he gets on the coach with his team-mates to travel to play the football match, then it will be a disaster waiting to happen when hundreds of peope those nearest and dearest to them get affected and they in-turn pass it on to others.

It is not worth it. No football match is.
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I tend to agree with you DeathAngel, the priority should be to finish this season but not a single player in any of the European leagues is obliged under law to play football for his team after 30th June 2020.

Not saying that you believe the following but for those that believe the idea the games will go ahead behind closed doors is flawed. People who have recovered from coronoavirus after receiving care have not created an immunity to it, their immune system has not created anything to stop them getting the virus again. It is inconceivable any football match could take place when the virus can be transmitted easily. Even the great Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish has been hospitalised with coronavirus yesterday.

What do you think should happen to make these games take place? How can they take place without a vaccine given to players first?



The priority should be to finish the current season, it’s 75% complete. I don’t see why next season should prioritise one that is 3/4 completed. Next season will have to start in October or something, the next World Cup is in the winter any way so that season will be messed around too.

I saw that the Scottish leagues are voting on what to do & it’ll likely be stopped with the current tables & an average points per game to see who is champion & who gets relegated.

They might struggle to find a vaccine, if that’s the case then what do we do, will the world stop? At some stage the economy is going to go bust, people have to go back to work or we face a situation where looting & purging will become a reality.

I think at some stage governments are going to have to weigh up what’s more important, world economies or a minority of older people dying?

My solution to play football would be behind closed doors (to begin with) with several ambulances & medics present incase of injury.

 
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I tend to agree with you DeathAngel, the priority should be to finish this season but not a single player in any of the European leagues is obliged under law to play football for his team after 30th June 2020.

Not saying that you believe the following but for those that believe the idea the games will go ahead behind closed doors is flawed. People who have recovered from coronoavirus after receiving care have not created an immunity to it, their immune system has not created anything to stop them getting the virus again. It is inconceivable any football match could take place when the virus can be transmitted easily. Even the great Liverpool legend Kenny Dalglish has been hospitalised with coronavirus yesterday.

What do you think should happen to make these games take place? How can they take place without a vaccine given to players first?



The priority should be to finish the current season, it’s 75% complete. I don’t see why next season should prioritise one that is 3/4 completed. Next season will have to start in October or something, the next World Cup is in the winter any way so that season will be messed around too.

I saw that the Scottish leagues are voting on what to do & it’ll likely be stopped with the current tables & an average points per game to see who is champion & who gets relegated.
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The priority should be to finish the current season, it’s 75% complete. I don’t see why next season should prioritise one that is 3/4 completed. Next season will have to start in October or something, the next World Cup is in the winter any way so that season will be messed around too.

I saw that the Scottish leagues are voting on what to do & it’ll likely be stopped with the current tables & an average points per game to see who is champion & who gets relegated.
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Thank you for the input and the links.

Another thing that was mentioned as recent as yesterday is that those players that would be out of contract on 30th June 2020 can simply walk away if they choose to without wanting to be part of an extended season: A leading sports lawyer says out-of-contract players in England can ignore FIFA proposals and leave their clubs at the end of June, even if the season has not resumed.

One other problem they face is if players who not longer term contracts do not extend their contract beyond 30th June 2020 because that is the final day of the season where all previous contractual terms end and new ones begin. There are 19 Premier League football clubs and even moderately if each squad had just 20 first team players it means 380 players are involved. Just because all 20 or so from Liverpool might be very happy to extend the season until even October or November because it would allow them to win their first ever Premier League (and their first league title in 30 years) if they 6 more points, it does not mean current champions Manchester City, Leicester City, Chelsea, Manchester United and all the other clubs feel the same enthusiasm.

Though I feel sorry for Liverpool in this situation I also feel very sorry for the clubs that could face relegation from the Premier League and those clubs trying to get promoted to the Premier League. If there is a team in the bottom 5 or 6 positions that should easily avoid relegation but because the season was extended and some players did not want to play beyond their legally binding final day of the season on 30th June 2020 because they have other their own private life away from the sport (family reasons, philanthropy or anything else) then it would be unfair for those games to go ahead as much as it would be to force those players to play games beyond the date they have no legal obligation to do so.

And a final thing, games will not be played behind closed doors with no spectators allowed. Some people are carrying the coronavirus and are simply unaware of it whereas others are displaying symptoms. If just one test is carried out incorrectly and that one player passes the virus on to his management team and team-mates and then they pass it on to several players of the opposing team then they pass it on to other opposing players and so... then we are back to the whole reason why a lock down was required.

If the season is extended in to June/July/August then when does the next season start? How many weeks or months is any extension supposed to go on for? If for example there will be no games played for another 6 months or 8 months or until January/February 2021 how can players that are out of contract or were wanting to leave (or were promised to leave their clubs) in the summer or winter transfer windows be forced to play? The whole thing is a mess.

The new season was supposed to start on 8/9/10 August 2020.


@JollyGood from what I’m reading this season definitely won’t be voided as the Premier League will suffer a huge loss if that happens, and that’s why I’m expecting them to do everything possible to get this season started by May end. Furthermore I feel that they’ll focus on completing this season irrespective of how long it takes, but I’m not entirely sure as to how they’ll be able to pull it off if coronavirus persists.

Sources:

https://www.football.london/premier-league/must-completed-null-void-what-18055076

https://www.republicworld.com/sports-news/football-news/premier-league-could-resume-season-in-may-avoid-929-million-backlash.html

https://talksport.com/football/685422/premier-league-plan-finish-season-june-behind-closed-doors/
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The poll had just 9 votes so far so hopefully more users will vote...

4 votes for "Voided - no champion & no relegations"
2 votes for "Use current PL table as the 'final' table"
3 votes for "Start 2020/21 season after completing current season no matter how long it takes"

@JollyGood from what I’m reading this season definitely won’t be voided as the Premier League will suffer a huge loss if that happens, and that’s why I’m expecting them to do everything possible to get this season started by May end. Furthermore I feel that they’ll focus on completing this season irrespective of how long it takes, but I’m not entirely sure as to how they’ll be able to pull it off if coronavirus persists.

Sources:

https://www.football.london/premier-league/must-completed-null-void-what-18055076

https://www.republicworld.com/sports-news/football-news/premier-league-could-resume-season-in-may-avoid-929-million-backlash.html

https://talksport.com/football/685422/premier-league-plan-finish-season-june-behind-closed-doors/
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The poll had just 9 votes so far so hopefully more users will vote...

4 votes for "Voided - no champion & no relegations"
2 votes for "Use current PL table as the 'final' table"
3 votes for "Start 2020/21 season after completing current season no matter how long it takes"
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The flip side is that nobody can force those teams in the bottom 6 or 7 positions of each of the English leagues to play their games beyond 30th June 2020 for the current season. They obviously do not want to fight in a relegation battle and prefer to have it voided.

Liverpool are two wins away from winning the Premier League for the first time in their history (and win the top tier for the first time in 30 years) so they would want to play it out.

The new season for 2020/21 starts in the first week of August. Keeping in mind the fixture list for each and every season I am totally against starting the next season late but I reluctantly prefer extending this season to finish the games as a final option. Is there going to be enough time between the Premier League and FA giving the go-ahead for fixtures to start and then players being fit enough to actually play those games?

One sensible option might be to find a way to allow games to be played behind closed doors with no spectators but that would mean heavy testing and monitoring of players, coaches and all employees to ensure they are free of coronavirus. Right now it seems along way away.



This season will be completed even if it jeopardises next season. Too many teams would take legal action if this season was cancelled.

Just off the top of my head - Liverpool, Leicester, Sheff Utd, Man Utd, Wolves all have vested interests in completing this season plus Leeds & West Brom in the league below would be beyond upset at not getting promoted.



There’s not much clarity yet whether premier league clubs will be able to complete their season or no, as the new deadline is April 30th and maximum they can extend is to June 30th. However if they decide to extend it beyond that then we won’t be able to complete the new season in time because Euro 2021 will also have to be factored in. As much as I would love to see this season be declared nulled and void because that would deny Liverpool the title, but then again if that happens Manchester United will miss out on the top four spot and that’ll be really sad.

Sources:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/english-soccer/premier-league-clubs-meeting-with-hope-of-finishing-season-1.4206170

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8156383/Coronavirus-UK-English-football-NOT-return-April-30-new-date-announced-week.html

https://talksport.com/football/688051/premier-league-cancel-season-moral-grounds-liverpool-title/
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