Topic: [POLL] Cryptsy was Hacked ? (Read 6752 times)

The rollback was watched by all users on chat after they bought cheap coins..
The talked about on Twitter.. the only unconfirmed part was the guy who showed up later claiming he got a ton of BTC doing it.
And like i said before he seemed believable *enough* to take him seriously.

To this day i have no idea if he really did get coins off their servers or not.
It's plausible i think he could have moved many coins out swiftly before they caught on.

There is no announcement of hacking of Cryptsy. The difficulty in withdrawing coin has lasted for more than 2 months now.

If they were hacked there would another announcement. But i agree with you that something has happened.

Did they made a wrong payment, an employee going rogue?

I was just dredging up old drama to make a point.. they have a sketchy history of being inept and buggy etc.
i was not trying to say that they have been hacked NOW !
This topic is old now.
But it's valid for posterity.. this topic got me a 1 year chat ban on Cryptsy from Porn star JShock ROFL

A reminder guys.. Yeah Cryptsy was hacked. YOU all said so

yup just old news

is this real?

mmmmmmm hhhhhhmmmmm right 

telling BCX to use an exchange by Baritus ? ROFL

cryptoave is now one of the leading exchanges in crypto !

There is always cryptoave ^^

making an effort to drop it *mostly (aside from this topic bump)

my goal is not to damage an exchange.. but to point out how i think none are perfect little angels.
even though that is exactly what they try and portray constantly.
all a guy has to do is use the search box here and you will see what i am getting at.
what you will find and the crap they say don't match..
someone is lying..
and is it every person that ever commented here or the same guy(s) who run an exchange behind closed doors, doing god knows what ?

there is patterns of behavior and it will continue unchanged i have no doubt..

Spoetnik +1

Bottom line is Cryptsy was not lost any money but users have lost money on points roll back. (i was there and i have lost small amount too.)

ya and old timers will know what i mean if i say "ORB"

at the time it was the most scammy coin ever made and had caused the most intense backlash after they added it long ago..

ORBITCOIN:

What happened was it was an obvious clone coin / cash grab and the devs premined it so bad people were laughing and making fun of it.
almost no one bothered to get in on it because it was a 100% pos scam cone coin..
but that sure as hell didn't stop BitJohn from adding it ASAP right after the coins release (mid-last year)

i was NOT on their chat box when it went down but supposedly everyone unanimously flipped out (i was told the following day by guys)
and raged on Cryptsy for adding it so damn bad they pulled it within an hour roughly and never added it again !

Until the Nov 2013 rush of new guys showed up in Crypto..

Then they snuck it in Mid-December 2013 with no announcement.
I heard some rumors about what happened to the premine.. i have been told by more than once that the premine was given up to Cryptsy (BJ)

and that reminds me of a chronic and nasty issue these guys have done all along and that is..
they re-added ORB with no announcement of any kind and they do that a lot !
I had mentioned that a lot last year to them and they would try and ignore me usually, but one time i got a response from BitJohn (as Prime loitered with snotty remarks)
when BitJohn got really snotty with me about it and said fine ill add it.. there.. are you happy now ? etc etc
like hey quit whining basically.. pretty fucking rude and i will never forget that either.
The fact is it's simply common sense to make an announcement if your adding a new coin. (or whatever)
and i had told them i have seen new coins added *days after even though i hang out on their chat constantly (last year) with no warning in any way..

So think about it ? why would they avoid making any announcement ? about new coins or paused markets etc ? ..Market manipulation plain and simple.

Anyway i have a few doozie's i could mention soon
There is one stunt that is colossally stupid of them.. i have sooooooo much concrete proof on it i am chomping at the bit to post it LOL

But as people can see guys i have always tried long and hard to give these pricks another chance(s) and get their act together.. but they don't learn.
and keep pulling stunts..

you know it blows me away when so much dirt is out there floating around on them that they have the fucking balls to get in my face and run their mouth.

like wow i am stunned !

Dick's.. i HAVE credibility..... you DON'T .

use your brain..

PS:
Did i miss my apology posted here ?

Cryptsy Listed KEY.

Last bit of integrity lost right there.

Holy shit you guys list some obvious scam and paid coins.

Shame, Shame, Shame.


http://www.theoptimisticdivorcees.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/shame-on-you.jpeg

And which you have been told was false.
And which you are still repeating, even though you've been told it was false.
Then you acted like a jerk, and got banned. So what?


Very convincingly?
You've no idea who he is. He makes a references to having got away with $89k. You believe him.
In what was was he very convincing?


You talk like this, then seem surprised when you get banned?

I suggest you guys work on making your exchange functional instead of
sitting around trying to troll and harass your clients..

like how many confirmations for RDD now ? last i heard it was 122,000 or some crazy shit like that from the normal 999 <- WTF ?
shows where your priorities are *as usual.

so i suggest rather than trying to lip me off and argue with me after getting caught looking like complete assholes
go back to bumping your shitty little CLONE coin topics here you guys have a hand in (trying to bury this on on page 3 so you get the last word in too)

Cryptsy your a bunch if cocky assholes and its going to back fire on you i see clearly.
because you NEVER learned the lesson i have warned you about for ages..
and that is your playing with OTHER PEOPLES money !
you have no respect for your customers and you treat clients like shit overall and then get mouthy with them afterwards.
Who the hell do you guys think you are Seriously WTF ?

When you (Cryptsy) froze the WC market 2 months back and Mod's sat on chat with me directly for an hour or two as i kept asking why my coins didn't show up
and is anyone else having that same problem you could have spoke up.. but what did you do BITJOHN ?
What did you do while you sat there talking to me for 2 fucking hours ? YOU AVOIDED me..
until eventually you realized you had to say something publicly.. you couldn't stall any longer.

and guys you know what this fucking guy had the nerve to say to me ?
Oh well uhhh uhhh..
We're investigating a Fork on the coin and froze deposits.. he said
and this was at the height of WC's (White Coin) popularity and myself and countless others were arb'ing them on exchanges..

So what i did was, i came here and i started going to every exchange and i could not find even one word of anything about a fork on the whole internet !
and at that point i had been waiting maybe about 4 hours and he still even after telling me that did not make a Twitter announcement about freezing deposits.
and hey don't ya all think if there is a fork they would freeze the market like they had done every other time on a fork previously ? ? ?
Why leave open the exchange market while freezing deposits ?

So not only did i find his comment VERY FISHY and he would not say another word then Horus jumped in and told me to shut up
and that i was harping on it and the two of them insisted i drop it or i was going to get banned..
And don't you think the customers have the right to know deposits are frozen ? before sending coins and waiting like me ?

I HAVE USERS BACKS !

And i wasn't harping on it either..
Nor was i rude.. angry or anything i spent 99% of my time casually hanging out chatting waiting politely and patiently !!
i had waited while on chat WITH these two mod's sitting there playing dumb and quiet about it the whole time IGNORING anyone that brought it up AFTER me.
when they finally gave me an answer i had pretty well dropped it from that point on.. so they were trying to silence me to cover their *classic Cryptsy shenanigans.

They have done this before LOTS !

and there is even a shit load of topics with various other users bring up this exact scenario..

The classic Cryptsy Exchange Shuffle Dance works like this..
What happens is when a coin is at it's height of popularity or Bitcoin itself rockets up in value
they will silently warn NO ONE and freeze a coin for a day or two or more.. saying nothing on the Chat Box or on their Blog or on their Twitter feed or even on this Forum !
This pattern got so bad,
i started predicting it last year and wad getting my coins out ahead of time over and over avoiding deposit delays and told people on chat it would happen and it did !
i can think of two other guys that came here and made topics about this too.. BitcoinExpress came to the same conclusion independently and made a topic about this issue.
and so did another guy after that randomly..
So i am sure as hell not the only one who has noticed this Market Manipulation bullshit !

so..
after about 12 hours there was still no sign of my coins and i was never given any more info and they did not mention it on chat to users at all.
eventually my coins showed up and the whole fork crap was never mentioned online anywhere ever again and there was no mention of this
on their Twitter feed or else where.. they simply pretended it didn't happen.

STORY #2
They did the same thing to Doge users few month back too while i sat on IRC Freenode / #Cryptsy for over a week
and during that time i had IRC logged.. i seen an average of 1 new user come up every 5 minutes asking where is my coins ?
And i said to them coming in, lemme guess Doge right ? ..and they would say, yup.

During that time i seen one guy who claimed to work for Cryptsy no one heard of say it was fixed the week before and there was NO PROBLEM at all !
And i might add that i told every guy to go to the channel Cryptsy_Support as staff had always advised before and every person told me they got
no response from the mods idling their or on the main channel i was in either (cryptsy staff were idling on there and saying NOTHING for a week straight.. hiding)
then,
this mystery staff guy started mouthing people off and arguing with people and one guy flipped out on the mod / staff guy about it as i watched.
What disturbed me is i had no idea how soooo many people even KNEW to go to Freenode's #Cryptsy channel it was not advertised anywhere
and the volume of complainers that were flowing in non stop for a week+ was incredible !
And did they say anything afterwards ? fuck no.. they swept it under the rug blamed the user ran their mouth arguing and played dumb.

AGAIN !

Their pattern of bullshit in Crypto is fucking Colossal and Legendary and a 1,000 people can step up and say their own bullshit stories about these guys too !
I have not even begun to tell any stories to make them look bad.. if i wanted to ? i could bury these cocky mouthy corrupt deceitful profesionals with stories.
AND THEY KNOW IT TOO !
but i am being nice believe it not LOL

Cryptsy get your shit together and heed my advice and the advice of others..
cut the crap and respect the fact your playing around with other people money !

Cryptsy is STILL run by the same cocky corrupt two-faced manipulative lying assholes.. hard at work manipulating the shit out of this scene.
ya like i wanna "get verified" and deal with USD / Fiat with these fuckers LOL ..ya right hahhaha

Crypty staff go back to making coins and playing dumb about it idiots.
And yeah, you KNOW damn well i have shit loads of proof tying you to prob half a dozen different coins too !

So didn't even try to deny it.. i can bury your ass's with valid real world tangible proof to support it in a fucking heart beat !
One of your buddies kind of screwed you by admitting on the forum here before and by doing that implicated you guys.
You sat there and lied about TIX on chat etc and when iGotSpots admitted details about it later, it exposed you guys as well as leaked info i was sent
implicating pretty much every staff member.. they ALL sat back and helped make the coin and then played dumb about it.

I got the backs of exchange-USERS .

I couldn't care less what cocky, greedy, deceitful exchange idiots think..
you guys Should be on your best behavior if not then deal with the consequences.

Want more ? I have soooooo many other interesting little stories i could mention i barely grazed the surface.

You guys really have some nerve..
iGotSpots syndrome i think.. you guys pull soooooo much manipulative deceitful shit then play dumb about just like that mouthy wacko coin cloner.
I have even wondered at times if iGotSpots was a Cryptsy staff member in disguise LOL
Ironically both iGotSpots and JShock has threatened me with defamation before.. do it up.. YOU would be leaving with charges in court not me LOL

keep it up clowns..

If we had crypto-regulation you ALL would be doin hard time for all kinds of shit i bet !

Spoetnik, the whole cause of this entire issue originally was because you made a post where because of the way you worded it, you made it appear that Cryptsy had
been robbed for 89k.  You did not state it as " somebody told me"  you said it as though you knew it to be fact.   I approached you in chat asking you to simply correct this
as you can see by your own copy of that chat.  I see you left out the biggest part of that chat which was the reason you were banned.  Its not cool to spread false rumors
and I thought maybe you had just written it the way you did in error, but now I see you posted that just to start mistrust and uneasiness among users and the community in general.

This will be my last post , and just want to end with this:
Just so everyone knows the truth:

The title to your poll, "Is a confirmed and used Exploit resulting in cash profit considered a Hack?" is misleading just like your original post.
You are trying to put into the minds of all that we had a cash loss which is a flat out lie.

The user involved in this did NOT remove any coins from site, he did not "hack" into our system to make gains.
He took advantage of a issue we were having at the moment with the cryptsy points reward system, but this raised immediate flags
and was quickly stopped, reversed and any effected users were compensated nicely.

I was all for your posts earlier in this thread BitJohn, but despite the transparency, you have an official rep, JShock who "has a bone to pick" with a Cryptsy user, in this case Spoetnik. I'm just commenting from the outside here as I see it. Any trust that you have built through your posts earlier in this thread has been crushed by what JShock has done.

What you need to understand is that once you become an official rep for any business, your behavior becomes a direct reflection of the business or company that you are representing. No matter what business you are in, if you speak in that way to a customer it reflects badly on the business. 

If Cryptsy has nothing to hide, what is the need for an official rep to get agitated or frustrated with one of their users (Spoetnik) over something that would be posted over false claims? Surely by now you guys would know that talking in that manner to a user is a warrant for further trouble.

Its fishy we reply to folks concerned about issues? I was under the impression folks liked transparency. In this case I provided all the info. Not sure your making any sense.....

Bottom line issues I can speak to I do.

Some stuff we cannot reply to such as certain types of account issues.


Now just because your had an account issue doesn't mean your in this boat but in the instance of hacking etc it can mean a delay in responding until the situation is assessed. This is also the law in most western nations. So bottom line if I cannot disclose it I cant reply to it.

The other big one I cant comment on would be issues were disclosure may open up possible attack vectors to our networks. We have numerous procedures which keep folks money safe the majority about we do not discuss. But it has kept customers funds safe the past year and a half that we have been open.

Yeah it does seem quite fishy. If there was no problem as they say, then why would they worry so much about threads you've created on BitcoinTalk about the matter, the most likely reason is that they are trying to hide something.

i repeated what i heard and what i heard was plausible..
imagine how many orders were filled if it was at 0.00086621 (like it is now) dumped down to 0.00000004
and there had been activity in it before revolving around when those drawings were happening
before that myself and countless others were actually flipping them it was getting so popular.
and who is watching the full order book at all times ?

you don't think there was some big piles of BTC sitting there waiting scoop up cheap points ?

i don't know what happened who knows.. they have been vague and cryptic about it when it went down.

The point is i relayed what i heard nothing more.. what was i suppose to edit as JShock demanded ?
I am guilty of slander and i may be sued ? ..go for it LOL

Did i deserve to be jumped on mouthed off and given a personal critique about my past behavior and then rudely banned ?
You may not like me around here but i think anyone with half a brain can see i didn't do fuck all and i didn't deserve to be treated this way.

- This was handled very poorly and unprofessionally.
- I was never given an apology instead i have been argued with or trolled by Cryptsy.
- My definition of the word "Hack" is valid at least to some people.

Whether or not the guy had withdrawn Bitcoin then cashed it out for $89 is not the point..
Point was it was plausible *enough (and convincing enough) for me to repeat it, bearing in mind all the circumstances.
And anyone on chat should have seen it all said too..
Nothing the guy said to me was said privately so many people should be able to back me up on this !
 
They have been playing games *as usual since day one about what happened.
Notice how even after all this discussion they still refuse to admit the hacker had CAUSED the exploit to happen ?
They are bending over backwards to hide this fact to try and argue with me and make themselves look good.
I guarantee the guy triggered the exploit and THAT is what makes it a hack in my books !
Which proves they are not honest.
I would say it was a bug if there was no user intervention..
But the fact remains they rolled back the market and a guy very convincingly stepped forward hinting directly that he got 89k from it (he didn't say how)

I want an apology .