Topic: [POLL] Cryptsy was Hacked ? - page 2. (Read 6752 times)
Spoetnik, are you sure its $89K and not $8.9K. I mean Cryptsy Points do have some value, but I doubt that there would be buy orders to the sum of $89K which could be dumped on. That means the buy order book would have to have around 130 BTC worth of buy orders. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem very likely.
Here is the original comment i made that got me veiled lawsuit threats, insults and general harassment.
Source:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7826865
agreed and this reminds me of the BTER / NXT hack other day and the JPC / Allcrypt hack the other month.
on one hand i think we gotta play by the rules.. bear with me on this lol
Ok so we have a lawless market right ?
Then in all fairness it's to the exchanges to run their business how they see fit period.
BUT
I don't like what these guys are doing..
I myself think if they stole the coins then oh well they are stolen and that is the end of it.
Hard forking a coin or other dumb measures is undermining Crypto bit by bit.
a lot of negative precedents are being set more frequently and unless Regulation is put in place and fast i am getting out of this shit scam pit of bullshit scene.
edit:
This shit is getting out of hand..
It also reminds me of Cryptsy getting hacked for Points couple weeks back..
A guy exploited the exchange and dumped Cryptsy "Points" down to about 4 sat's
The exchange rolled it back but guys got fucked over because they sold other coins to buy up cheap points..
so Cryptsy rolled back the changes on points leaving anyone that dumped their coins earlier kinda fucked over.. as i was told by users who did this.
AND the guy who hacked it popped up after a week and i had a little chat with him and turns out he robbed the place for a bit more than 89k usd after cashing out.
He was laughing his ass off asking me directly what he should spend it on.
Source:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7826865
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Quote from: haploid23 on July 13, 2014, 09:24:16 AM
1) We lost a considerable amount of VeriCoin in the attack, however we have been working with the VRC developers and all major exchanges to hard fork the coin at a position before the attack. This will allow us to retrieve the stolen coins and facilitate all withdrawals. We are also working with various exchanges to accommodate any losses they may encouter as a result of the required fork.
This is a problem right here. Just because it's stolen does not mean they should be able to arbitrarily reverse the hack. If they're successful at hard forking, this will set precedence that any time there is a theft reported, devs can just hard fork again. This will eventually be abused, and corruption happens.
1) We lost a considerable amount of VeriCoin in the attack, however we have been working with the VRC developers and all major exchanges to hard fork the coin at a position before the attack. This will allow us to retrieve the stolen coins and facilitate all withdrawals. We are also working with various exchanges to accommodate any losses they may encouter as a result of the required fork.
This is a problem right here. Just because it's stolen does not mean they should be able to arbitrarily reverse the hack. If they're successful at hard forking, this will set precedence that any time there is a theft reported, devs can just hard fork again. This will eventually be abused, and corruption happens.
agreed and this reminds me of the BTER / NXT hack other day and the JPC / Allcrypt hack the other month.
on one hand i think we gotta play by the rules.. bear with me on this lol
Ok so we have a lawless market right ?
Then in all fairness it's to the exchanges to run their business how they see fit period.
BUT
I don't like what these guys are doing..
I myself think if they stole the coins then oh well they are stolen and that is the end of it.
Hard forking a coin or other dumb measures is undermining Crypto bit by bit.
a lot of negative precedents are being set more frequently and unless Regulation is put in place and fast i am getting out of this shit scam pit of bullshit scene.
edit:
This shit is getting out of hand..
It also reminds me of Cryptsy getting hacked for Points couple weeks back..
A guy exploited the exchange and dumped Cryptsy "Points" down to about 4 sat's
The exchange rolled it back but guys got fucked over because they sold other coins to buy up cheap points..
so Cryptsy rolled back the changes on points leaving anyone that dumped their coins earlier kinda fucked over.. as i was told by users who did this.
AND the guy who hacked it popped up after a week and i had a little chat with him and turns out he robbed the place for a bit more than 89k usd after cashing out.
He was laughing his ass off asking me directly what he should spend it on.
This is the chat log from Cryptsy's Troll Box the other day.
Where JShock confronted me on chat..
I have the full log saved but i'm trying to edit out unrelated comments to keep this short.
PS: My first comment is my standard greeting i have copied and pasted a million times before all over the web.
Which is a line i stole from "Catch a Contractor" a new reality show from the comedian Adam Corolla.
Where JShock confronted me on chat..
I have the full log saved but i'm trying to edit out unrelated comments to keep this short.
PS: My first comment is my standard greeting i have copied and pasted a million times before all over the web.
Which is a line i stole from "Catch a Contractor" a new reality show from the comedian Adam Corolla.
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Spoetnik
ok everyone settle down..i am the smart one here !
sm00th0perat0r
@Spoetnik: lmao
AngusCanine335
lol
Spoetnik
smoothie you old dog.. whats up man ? (you are a man aren't you ?)
sm00th0perat0r
not much brotha .. yea i am a man. how about yourself?
Spoetnik
@tigerwood747: one "i was hacked" incident and i am out (of any service)
Spoetnik
@sm00th0perat0r: i usually am and i bumped some post at Bitcointalk to show guys there that you literally have the oldest Altcoin forum posts on page 740 lol
tigerwood747
@spoetnik = i don't believe a second their story = may be its another exchanger who paid an employee to do the "hack" and destroy mintpal
JShock
@Spoetnik:
Spoetnik
@tigerwood747: i wondered if they had soem scheme to re-set up a POS stake scheme or something
Spoetnik
@JShock: i didn't do it boss i swear !
sm00th0perat0r
@Spoetnik: wow yea it's been a while since i've been on the talk forum. i'll have to start trolling again sonn though
JShock
yes you did
JShock
I have a bone to pick with you
Spoetnik
what ? lol
Spoetnik
whats a matter man ?
Spoetnik
i'm surprised
3BlockChainzOnMyNeck
the suspense is killing me
JShock
You made a post on bitcointalk claiming we were robbed for 89k. This is false. We have never been robbed
tigerwood747
@spoetnik i don't think so = they destroyed themselves for 2 million dollars ? they make humdred thousnads dollars profit per day , and destroy it for 2 million ? no way . its an attack from an exchanger = with an employee ( because as you can read = only employees can make transfers with their secret codes
JShock
No one has ever made an unauthorized withdraw of any coins from any wallet owned by cryptsy
Spoetnik
well i see .. what your referring to and i ALWAYS chose my words carefully.. for starters lol
JShock
Users have had thier own computers hacked and coins withdrawn but we have never had a breach of that kind
tigerwood747
lol
Spoetnik
2nd i relayed on Bitcointalk what i was told word for word as i told Bitjohn when he pm'd me the other day
uriah228
@JShock: and if they ever did you would never be stupid enough to have 30% of a coin in a hot wallet. Damn mint you dumb.
JShock
YOur words were that the guy got away with 89k. This is false
Spoetnik
well i know what i said and people are filling in the blanks reading in between the lines.. and it did not occur to me people would take it that way to be honest eh
JShock
You wrote: "the guy who hacked it popped up after a week and i had a little chat with him and turns out he robbed the place for a bit more than 89k usd after cashing out."
Spoetnik
and you guys also did not help matters by never really saying specifically what happened either
JShock
Spreading that kind of fud can bring civil lawsuits
Spoetnik
@JShock: so what would i call it if i exploit cryptsy to get unlimited points then i dump them here so Points go from .004847564 all the way down to 0.0000004
Spoetnik
then i withdraw that BTC and cash it for usd 89k ?
JShock
@Spoetnik: it was internal and it was caught and corrected, nothing left the site
Spoetnik
and Jshock you don't have to be a jerk with law suit threats man.. not surprised though to be honest.. coming from you lol
Spoetnik
@JShock: that IS NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD
JShock
@Spoetnik: you seem to be told alot of things.. all but the truth.. and you seem to love to spread things like this..
Spoetnik
it was internal is vague i just said what happened is that not true ? do you officially deny it ?
Spoetnik
guys love telling me they have 89k grand to spend yeah that is my problem not the guy you had on chat saying it ?
Spoetnik
i as not the one saying man lol
JShock
The fact is, nothing left the site, it was a internal error that enabled somebody to be able to make an unauthorized action intrernally.. but that user never removed any coins
JShock
Please dit and correct your post
Spoetnik
the fact you reversed Points is PROOF something happened most likely an exploit so yeah you were hacked .
Digging
@Spoetnik: actually, by repeating it, you ARE the one saying it
Spoetnik
if you were not hacked you would not have had to reverse anything
Spoetnik
no way around that logic lol
JShock
we werent hacked..
kev3303
that points thing kinda sucked, i was doubling my btc before the reversal
JShock
no more than when somebody is able to make a double buy or sell.. thats not being hacked.. it was an issue in script that allowed the user to do this
Spoetnik
further more i already dealt with it with your boss man
JShock
It was found and corrected
Spoetnik
aka an exploit..
JShock
Bitjohn is not my boss
Spoetnik
a hack duh
bitcoinkerala
@JShock: ARE YOU THE ADMIN ?
JShock
I have one boss in this company
JShock
The CEO himself
Spoetnik
your just mincing words with me but i didn't do anything but relay precisely what i heard to a T
JShock
then you should state it as that.. you made it sound like fact
Spoetnik
ya well the c-foudbner is not your boss now ? lol ....ok what ever
3BlockChainzOnMyNeck
It's getting real in here
JShock
No he is not
uriah228
Sounds like everybody needs some Jesus.
sm00th0perat0r
or a hug
JShock
He actuallyu technically works for me
Spoetnik
i have no to apologize for your random guy on chat does..
3BlockChainzOnMyNeck
and the bomb just dropped
Spoetnik
nothing*
Spoetnik
i can clarify it but your being a complete jerk for no reason i think.. i don't appreciate your cocky and mouthy attitude buddy i don't care who you think you ar eh
Spoetnik
i relayed the truth period .
*** System Message ***
Spoetnik has been banned from chat for 1 day
ok everyone settle down..i am the smart one here !
sm00th0perat0r
@Spoetnik: lmao
AngusCanine335
lol
Spoetnik
smoothie you old dog.. whats up man ? (you are a man aren't you ?)
sm00th0perat0r
not much brotha .. yea i am a man. how about yourself?
Spoetnik
@tigerwood747: one "i was hacked" incident and i am out (of any service)
Spoetnik
@sm00th0perat0r: i usually am and i bumped some post at Bitcointalk to show guys there that you literally have the oldest Altcoin forum posts on page 740 lol
tigerwood747
@spoetnik = i don't believe a second their story = may be its another exchanger who paid an employee to do the "hack" and destroy mintpal
JShock
@Spoetnik:
Spoetnik
@tigerwood747: i wondered if they had soem scheme to re-set up a POS stake scheme or something
Spoetnik
@JShock: i didn't do it boss i swear !
sm00th0perat0r
@Spoetnik: wow yea it's been a while since i've been on the talk forum. i'll have to start trolling again sonn though
JShock
yes you did
JShock
I have a bone to pick with you
Spoetnik
what ? lol
Spoetnik
whats a matter man ?
Spoetnik
i'm surprised
3BlockChainzOnMyNeck
the suspense is killing me
JShock
You made a post on bitcointalk claiming we were robbed for 89k. This is false. We have never been robbed
tigerwood747
@spoetnik i don't think so = they destroyed themselves for 2 million dollars ? they make humdred thousnads dollars profit per day , and destroy it for 2 million ? no way . its an attack from an exchanger = with an employee ( because as you can read = only employees can make transfers with their secret codes
JShock
No one has ever made an unauthorized withdraw of any coins from any wallet owned by cryptsy
Spoetnik
well i see .. what your referring to and i ALWAYS chose my words carefully.. for starters lol
JShock
Users have had thier own computers hacked and coins withdrawn but we have never had a breach of that kind
tigerwood747
lol
Spoetnik
2nd i relayed on Bitcointalk what i was told word for word as i told Bitjohn when he pm'd me the other day
uriah228
@JShock: and if they ever did you would never be stupid enough to have 30% of a coin in a hot wallet. Damn mint you dumb.
JShock
YOur words were that the guy got away with 89k. This is false
Spoetnik
well i know what i said and people are filling in the blanks reading in between the lines.. and it did not occur to me people would take it that way to be honest eh
JShock
You wrote: "the guy who hacked it popped up after a week and i had a little chat with him and turns out he robbed the place for a bit more than 89k usd after cashing out."
Spoetnik
and you guys also did not help matters by never really saying specifically what happened either
JShock
Spreading that kind of fud can bring civil lawsuits
Spoetnik
@JShock: so what would i call it if i exploit cryptsy to get unlimited points then i dump them here so Points go from .004847564 all the way down to 0.0000004
Spoetnik
then i withdraw that BTC and cash it for usd 89k ?
JShock
@Spoetnik: it was internal and it was caught and corrected, nothing left the site
Spoetnik
and Jshock you don't have to be a jerk with law suit threats man.. not surprised though to be honest.. coming from you lol
Spoetnik
@JShock: that IS NOT WHAT I WAS TOLD
JShock
@Spoetnik: you seem to be told alot of things.. all but the truth.. and you seem to love to spread things like this..
Spoetnik
it was internal is vague i just said what happened is that not true ? do you officially deny it ?
Spoetnik
guys love telling me they have 89k grand to spend yeah that is my problem not the guy you had on chat saying it ?
Spoetnik
i as not the one saying man lol
JShock
The fact is, nothing left the site, it was a internal error that enabled somebody to be able to make an unauthorized action intrernally.. but that user never removed any coins
JShock
Please dit and correct your post
Spoetnik
the fact you reversed Points is PROOF something happened most likely an exploit so yeah you were hacked .
Digging
@Spoetnik: actually, by repeating it, you ARE the one saying it
Spoetnik
if you were not hacked you would not have had to reverse anything
Spoetnik
no way around that logic lol
JShock
we werent hacked..
kev3303
that points thing kinda sucked, i was doubling my btc before the reversal
JShock
no more than when somebody is able to make a double buy or sell.. thats not being hacked.. it was an issue in script that allowed the user to do this
Spoetnik
further more i already dealt with it with your boss man
JShock
It was found and corrected
Spoetnik
aka an exploit..
JShock
Bitjohn is not my boss
Spoetnik
a hack duh
bitcoinkerala
@JShock: ARE YOU THE ADMIN ?
JShock
I have one boss in this company
JShock
The CEO himself
Spoetnik
your just mincing words with me but i didn't do anything but relay precisely what i heard to a T
JShock
then you should state it as that.. you made it sound like fact
Spoetnik
ya well the c-foudbner is not your boss now ? lol ....ok what ever
3BlockChainzOnMyNeck
It's getting real in here
JShock
No he is not
uriah228
Sounds like everybody needs some Jesus.
sm00th0perat0r
or a hug
JShock
He actuallyu technically works for me
Spoetnik
i have no to apologize for your random guy on chat does..
3BlockChainzOnMyNeck
and the bomb just dropped
Spoetnik
nothing*
Spoetnik
i can clarify it but your being a complete jerk for no reason i think.. i don't appreciate your cocky and mouthy attitude buddy i don't care who you think you ar eh
Spoetnik
i relayed the truth period .
*** System Message ***
Spoetnik has been banned from chat for 1 day
I don't believe it was a hack, It's more like a glitch. A hack would have had more serious consequences and loss of coins for the exchange + users.
ok i am all for discussion guys and for or against thanks for your feedback.
i swear to god i did NOT change the Poll question guys or the topic title
and i am REALLY seriously stunned you guys think i may have or that it's so far off the topic title.
i have never thought that there was a requirement to have the topic title match exactly the Poll question.
so i am sorry about that everyone, had i known you guys were going to make a fuss about that
i would have made the title and poll question match word for word.
Me ? I don't think the way it is now makes much difference and i wanted to make the Poll question more descriptive
at the last minute to make it fair for people to vote as honestly as they can (not being too vague about it)
I was trying to be fair !
the responses you guys have posted about the poll not matching topic stunned me so much just now
i actually had to go and read and see if staff here changed it on me or something because i don't get it..
i don't see why you guys are saying that.
I also would never go and change the Poll or what ever pulling a bait and switch.
Nor would i get away with it either considering there is a mirror / proxy type site that records these topics permanently *even if you change them.
I chose the topic title with out much thought actually.
I was treated like shit and never given and apology and it was all over the term "hack"
and it was based on incidents that is deemed a hack by some or not by others so i don't see how it's misleading.
If i wanted to be an asshole i could have made it self moderated and do who Cryptsy guys love doing
and that is pick a fight with you and argue and then if you don't submit to their will / opinion
they ban you..
I have had almost all of them do that to me on various occasions.
So, what i should have done made this topic self moderated and stated my opinion here and when they argued with me and didn't submit to me
i could then censor them and delete their comments ..doing what they like to do to me and others on the Chat box.
..the 'ole I'm always right because i am a chat box moderator or i'll ban you routine ..classic internet chatbox bullshit LOL
Anyway
These guys tried to do a little clean up and reboot in Nov/December 2013 roughly.
another mod that vanished at that time and when JShock arrived had banned me for because he wasn't in the mood for me" he said once..
and they both had the same cocky prick attitude too.. seems to maybe be the same guy is what i am saying.
plenty of them Mod's/Staff don't like certain people so they act like assholes.. simple as that.
They play games galore and i have 1000000 stories of it and PROOF too.
All of them have been involved with making and launching coins.
They have been caught red handed doing this and lying and covering it up all along
which is worse than making coins and being up front about it all i might add..
In fairness i think they (exchanges) all do it though.
Cryptsy is pretty ballsy though.. they really pull some cocky stunts then just play dumb about it later.
And you will get rolled to fuck and back while mods hide and when mods finally show up they will ban the victim LOL
I guarantee half of all trolling on their chat box is done by their own staff.
Anyway..
I am confident my Poll question matches what i was referring to with that specific Cryptsy points incident.
So i really don't get how you guys are trying to say they are separate different matters / issues.
I also don't think the topic title matters either.. your suppose to click on the topic an dread what is going on..
i would never vote based on just reading the title of a topic and i hope that is not what people were doing here.
If your don't think the Poll was setup properly then please DO NOT VOTE !
@snarlpill
and chat box "fanstasy" ?
then i will post the FULL CHAT LOG
i swear to god i did NOT change the Poll question guys or the topic title
and i am REALLY seriously stunned you guys think i may have or that it's so far off the topic title.
i have never thought that there was a requirement to have the topic title match exactly the Poll question.
so i am sorry about that everyone, had i known you guys were going to make a fuss about that
i would have made the title and poll question match word for word.
Me ? I don't think the way it is now makes much difference and i wanted to make the Poll question more descriptive
at the last minute to make it fair for people to vote as honestly as they can (not being too vague about it)
I was trying to be fair !
the responses you guys have posted about the poll not matching topic stunned me so much just now
i actually had to go and read and see if staff here changed it on me or something because i don't get it..
i don't see why you guys are saying that.
I also would never go and change the Poll or what ever pulling a bait and switch.
Nor would i get away with it either considering there is a mirror / proxy type site that records these topics permanently *even if you change them.
I chose the topic title with out much thought actually.
I was treated like shit and never given and apology and it was all over the term "hack"
and it was based on incidents that is deemed a hack by some or not by others so i don't see how it's misleading.
If i wanted to be an asshole i could have made it self moderated and do who Cryptsy guys love doing
and that is pick a fight with you and argue and then if you don't submit to their will / opinion
they ban you..
I have had almost all of them do that to me on various occasions.
So, what i should have done made this topic self moderated and stated my opinion here and when they argued with me and didn't submit to me
i could then censor them and delete their comments ..doing what they like to do to me and others on the Chat box.
..the 'ole I'm always right because i am a chat box moderator or i'll ban you routine ..classic internet chatbox bullshit LOL
Anyway
These guys tried to do a little clean up and reboot in Nov/December 2013 roughly.
another mod that vanished at that time and when JShock arrived had banned me for because he wasn't in the mood for me" he said once..
and they both had the same cocky prick attitude too.. seems to maybe be the same guy is what i am saying.
plenty of them Mod's/Staff don't like certain people so they act like assholes.. simple as that.
They play games galore and i have 1000000 stories of it and PROOF too.
All of them have been involved with making and launching coins.
They have been caught red handed doing this and lying and covering it up all along
which is worse than making coins and being up front about it all i might add..
In fairness i think they (exchanges) all do it though.
Cryptsy is pretty ballsy though.. they really pull some cocky stunts then just play dumb about it later.
And you will get rolled to fuck and back while mods hide and when mods finally show up they will ban the victim LOL
I guarantee half of all trolling on their chat box is done by their own staff.
Anyway..
I am confident my Poll question matches what i was referring to with that specific Cryptsy points incident.
So i really don't get how you guys are trying to say they are separate different matters / issues.
I also don't think the topic title matters either.. your suppose to click on the topic an dread what is going on..
i would never vote based on just reading the title of a topic and i hope that is not what people were doing here.
If your don't think the Poll was setup properly then please DO NOT VOTE !
@snarlpill
and chat box "fanstasy" ?
then i will post the FULL CHAT LOG
This thread is pointless. The poll doesn't really relate to the thread at all, as mentioned. OP states he has good credibility but contradicts himself completely by having half of the story based off of a chatbox fantasy, Lol. The fact that you mentioned what an anonymous person kind of implied in a chatbox as Solid Proof is laughable.
Personal experiences- I've seen a few hiccups at Cryptsy but trust them overall. Guaranteed there are people trying to D'DOS and every other form of attack on these exchanges daily. I think they all do a pretty good job for the most part. (Besides that magical card game one...)
Personal experiences- I've seen a few hiccups at Cryptsy but trust them overall. Guaranteed there are people trying to D'DOS and every other form of attack on these exchanges daily. I think they all do a pretty good job for the most part. (Besides that magical card game one...)
Cryptsy lost me at Cent when BitJohn argued constantly that it wasnt broken. Meanwhile he had a huge stash from Shak that he staked and took a colossal shitdump on the market.
BitJohn has done nothing behind the scenes that would make me think he's changed.
Cant teach an old dog new tricks.
BitJohn has done nothing behind the scenes that would make me think he's changed.
Cant teach an old dog new tricks.
Hmmm nothing about this is true actually. I owned one whole CENT ever mined it on my laptop when it initially launched. Nice try though.
you can call it what ever you guys want but the poll backs me up clearly.
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Well actually IDK about this, but I voted yes because the answer to the poll's question is yes: "Is a confirmed and used Exploit resulting in cash profit considered a Hack ?"
Exactly. The answer to the question posed is clearly yes.
That doesn't seem to have any relevance to what has been claimed in this thread though.
He changed the poll description pretty sure it said something else before and he will change it back after you vote to try and imply something is wrong. Bottom line he was banned from chat and he is mad so he is having a tantrum.
you can call it what ever you guys want but the poll backs me up clearly.
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Well actually IDK about this, but I voted yes because the answer to the poll's question is yes: "Is a confirmed and used Exploit resulting in cash profit considered a Hack ?"
Exactly. The answer to the question posed is clearly yes.
That doesn't seem to have any relevance to what has been claimed in this thread though.
Cryptsy lost me at Cent when BitJohn argued constantly that it wasnt broken. Meanwhile he had a huge stash from Shak that he staked and took a colossal shitdump on the market.
BitJohn has done nothing behind the scenes that would make me think he's changed.
Cant teach an old dog new tricks.
BitJohn has done nothing behind the scenes that would make me think he's changed.
Cant teach an old dog new tricks.
It doesn't need to result in cash profits to be called a hack. Anyway topic is misleading.
you can call it what ever you guys want but the poll backs me up clearly.
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Well actually IDK about this, but I voted yes because the answer to the poll's question is yes: "Is a confirmed and used Exploit resulting in cash profit considered a Hack ?"
you can call it what ever you guys want but the poll backs me up clearly.
I was TREATED Like SHIT ..by your staff Cryptsy
Because ?
I posted the truth !
What i said was 100% honest and truthful.
Whether or not people want to play games with verbal gymnastics or not doesn't matter.
Whether the mystery-guy's claims to have attained roughly $89,000 OFF the Cryptsy servers or not (in some form or another) is NOT the point.
He said, she said..
Who do i believe a guy who exploited the server or Cryptsy ?
uhhh that mystery guy has not lied to me before and i know for a fact Cryptsy HAS.
Further more no one on the internet uses the term "game'd the system"
they say "you were hacked".. don't play dumb games about it.
i know Interweb terminology pretty well ..so i know lol
The whole competition is trying to pick on Cryptsy because their jealous routine is a joke LOL
50% of this forum can probably step up and tell their own story of "Fishy" Cryptsy games & bullshit.
hey Cryptsy ..want me to post a few million other moronic ballsy greedy stunts you have pulled ?
reality check Cryptsy guys.. I have credibility.. do YOU ?
You don't want me to make a poll on that do you
Or better yet search the keyword Cryptsy here and look for yourself.. that should say it all.
You guys have habitually treated people like shit and screwed around with people's money etc..
and if your going to make a habit of it and get worse with it i will remind people off your notorious reputation.
i'm all for forgiving and forgetting and moving on but if you gonna keep repeating the same problematic behavior then..
and i will remind you Crytsy staff the only thing i want here out of you is "i am sorry" .
I was TREATED Like SHIT ..by your staff Cryptsy
Because ?
I posted the truth !
What i said was 100% honest and truthful.
Whether or not people want to play games with verbal gymnastics or not doesn't matter.
Whether the mystery-guy's claims to have attained roughly $89,000 OFF the Cryptsy servers or not (in some form or another) is NOT the point.
He said, she said..
Who do i believe a guy who exploited the server or Cryptsy ?
uhhh that mystery guy has not lied to me before and i know for a fact Cryptsy HAS.
Further more no one on the internet uses the term "game'd the system"
they say "you were hacked".. don't play dumb games about it.
i know Interweb terminology pretty well ..so i know lol
The whole competition is trying to pick on Cryptsy because their jealous routine is a joke LOL
50% of this forum can probably step up and tell their own story of "Fishy" Cryptsy games & bullshit.
hey Cryptsy ..want me to post a few million other moronic ballsy greedy stunts you have pulled ?
reality check Cryptsy guys.. I have credibility.. do YOU ?
You don't want me to make a poll on that do you
Or better yet search the keyword Cryptsy here and look for yourself.. that should say it all.
You guys have habitually treated people like shit and screwed around with people's money etc..
and if your going to make a habit of it and get worse with it i will remind people off your notorious reputation.
i'm all for forgiving and forgetting and moving on but if you gonna keep repeating the same problematic behavior then..
and i will remind you Crytsy staff the only thing i want here out of you is "i am sorry" .
The market was gamed for a very short period of time the system flagged the activity. No funds were moved and the market was rolled back. Points are not run the same as coins different systems in place and infrastructure since its not a coin it is a reward point system. Anyone who profited profited from the gamed system and anyone who lost was likewise affected by the decision and yes this is unfortunate...
Thanks for posting all this BitJohn.
Yes, "gamed" the system would be the most accurate term. I wont bother to vote because it's not a hack in any real sense from the outside but instead someone apparently found a way to scam the rewards system (but apparently failed to get the scammed/stolen funds out of Cryptsy). Scamming (gaming the system, legal or otherwise) isn't hacking in any true sense, but whatever, call it whatever you people care to call it.
Time after time Cryptsy has risen to the occasion, much to the anger and ire of it's competitors.
No, I wont answer nor continue any further discussion in this thread.
This was merely a statement for those not familiar with the happenings herein.
I only see great things occurring for all customers because of all the competition in the Exchange business. Certain competitors such as Cryptsy apparently have enough class NOT to spread disinformation, misinformation, and outright lies.
Of course apparently that's not true of all competitors. hence why I sign with...
Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!
The market was gamed for a very short period of time the system flagged the activity. No funds were moved and the market was rolled back. Points are not run the same as coins different systems in place and infrastructure since its not a coin it is a reward point system. Anyone who profited profited from the gamed system and anyone who lost was likewise affected by the decision and yes this is unfortunate but IS the course of action taken. Of course we cannot replace lost opportunity cost.
I will see if we can work something out as a special to compensate folks a bit no promises.
I will see if we can work something out as a special to compensate folks a bit no promises.
Were the drawings competitions also gamed, with one guy winning on 3 occasions?
Oddly this was some time ago and is likely only coming up now from folks running cover for something that happened recently elsewhere that is a tad more dramatic....
Hehe, expect an influx of users heading back to Cryptsy after those recent events. Anyway it's good to see some transparency here, good job.
The drawings thing is a crazy anomaly that I have discussed in another thread at length and is also discussed in our blog http://blog.cryptsy.com/. So after the same guy won twice in a row we totally reviewed the algorithm and found it to be sound. So yes he actually won. Now this did lead us to change our system so the same guy cant win two weeks in a row. But heck folks have won the powerball more than once which is significantly greater odds.
The market was gamed for a very short period of time the system flagged the activity. No funds were moved and the market was rolled back. Points are not run the same as coins different systems in place and infrastructure since its not a coin it is a reward point system. Anyone who profited profited from the gamed system and anyone who lost was likewise affected by the decision and yes this is unfortunate but IS the course of action taken. Of course we cannot replace lost opportunity cost.
I will see if we can work something out as a special to compensate folks a bit no promises.
I will see if we can work something out as a special to compensate folks a bit no promises.
Were the drawings competitions also gamed, with one guy winning on 3 occasions?
Oddly this was some time ago and is likely only coming up now from folks running cover for something that happened recently elsewhere that is a tad more dramatic....
Hehe, expect an influx of users heading back to Cryptsy after those recent events. Anyway it's good to see some transparency here, good job.
Interesting but at least we know Cryptsy hasn't lost any money nor customer's coins!
Thanks for the clarification and transparency.
The market was gamed for a very short period of time the system flagged the activity. No funds were moved and the market was rolled back. Points are not run the same as coins different systems in place and infrastructure since its not a coin it is a reward point system. Anyone who profited profited from the gamed system and anyone who lost was likewise affected by the decision and yes this is unfortunate but IS the course of action taken. Of course we cannot replace lost opportunity cost.
I will see if we can work something out as a special to compensate folks a bit no promises.
Oddly this was some time ago and is likely only coming up now from folks running cover for something that happened recently elsewhere that is a tad more dramatic....
I will see if we can work something out as a special to compensate folks a bit no promises.
Oddly this was some time ago and is likely only coming up now from folks running cover for something that happened recently elsewhere that is a tad more dramatic....
Unlike other exchanges we are audited externally and we are under the laws of the US compliance brings a whole new set of laws and oversight on us. Bottom line is Cryptsy lost no money.
In my post 2 messages above yours, I point out that the victims of such a hack would be customers whose holdings of Cryptsy points saw their value diminished. Cryptsy would not be the victim. Can you confirm that the Cryptsy point system has never been gamed/hacked/manipulated unfairly leading to such dumping of Cryptsy points?
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