Topic: [POLL] Does EVAN DUFFIELD regret instamining DRK/DASH at 100x emission? - page 15. (Read 31441 times)

"It makes him feel better by not making reference to the max coin supply which would reduce the impact of the dramatization to ~10%." The impact is today and the vote you mention was likely skewed in favor of the instaminers, so that is why it matters--it's called unfair distribution of power and one of the reasons cryptocurrencies were created was to prevent this type of behavior, but profiteers and scam artist got that part confused.

"Or to make reference to the original coin supply which was 84m, making the claims of foul play little more than 2%". There is no original coin supply if you change the coins parameters--this is called breaking the social contract. Another thing profiteers and scam artist have gotten wrong when making a cryptocurrency.

"I seem to remember Evan asking the community if they wanted to change the maxcoin supply from 84m to ~22m. And everyone voted yes." See above you ignorant fool.

"I also seem to remember Monero community discussing and voting for changes to emissions and coin supply, more than once. Monero voted no. But what if there was a yes vote?" They had a 100% vote to not change the social contract for the very reason that I stated, so maybe if they had done everything else mentioned wrong too, we could compare them equally--but they got it right, so who gives a flying fuck?

It's very easy to use faulty logic and to change comparative numbers to skew an argument and to defend scammy coins--you are very good at that.

It makes him feel better by not making reference to the max coin supply which would reduce the impact of the dramatization to ~10%.

Or to make reference to the original coin supply which was 84m, making the claims of foul play little more than 2%.

I seem to remember Evan asking the community if they wanted to change the maxcoin supply from 84m to ~22m. And everyone voted yes.

I also seem to remember Monero community discussing and voting for changes to emissions and coin supply, more than once. Monero voted no. But what if there was a yes vote?

Its very easy to use economics and to change comparative numbers to skew an argument and to smear. Smooth is very good at that.

Well it is not as bad as the Bytecoin pre-mine / ninja-mine at over 80%.

Ouch, you are correct. I didn't do the math but I suppose I expected the instamine to compromise less of a % of the coin supply than it actually does, I was wrong.

Are you a dash shill because you keep downplaying their instamine. It's closer to 40% than 30%:

Instamine: 2 million
Current supply (via coinmarket cap): 5,333,827 DASH

Instamine percentage: 37.496529227513%

Keeping posting a meme of your cheap tactic--smart people will see it for what it really is quickly enough.  

Keep thinking about this and it really is shady as fuck, especially given the de-optimized code, sending people to dud links so they couldn't mine, wallets not working properly, expecting people to compile their own wallets with shitty code that also didn't work, injecting fucked up code to prevent people from submitting work and forking the chain in the first week(s), and then forking the thread from the main dev after only a few weeks 'because he wasn't communicating'.

Then there are the lucky ones who seem not to have had any problems and managed to acquire 10% or more of the coin supply in the first week.

It really was / is shady as fuck.

See, that's where you assume incorrectly. Dash, my comments about it, and most of the other people who have slammed its shady instamine and other scammy practices over the past year has nothing to do with Monero. I don't know who this Prosperityforall is who started the current threads but its not someone I know to be tied to Monero, although he does seem to support it. But the fact is if you look at all of the threads criticizing Dash over the past year, most of them clearly have nothing to do with Monero (some of them might even pre-date Monero). The common element here is Dash, not Monero.

In seeing this as a Monero issue you're buying into the ad hominem that comes from the Dash defenders. To your credit you don't really bother with that and just say you don't care as long as you make money, which I respect to some extent. Just remember: exit strategy (and risk management). You will thank me later.

I'm not saying that you criticizing Dash directly lead to anything that is happening with Monero. Or Dash for that matter. I'm saying that it leads to antagonism between the Dash and Monero communities, which in the long run will probably just hurt both. I fail to see how it benefits Monero, which I assume is your goal?

I'd guess that your logic goes like this. Dash becomes illegitimate, therefore people switch over to Monero. But in reality, it results in shit being thrown from both sides. There are adverse consequences for each side. Instead you could just focus on making Monero better, which would actually help Monero. But hey, it's your time. If you feel that it's best spent by trashing others, then that's your choice.

Take me as an example. In the past I may have gone out of the way to trash Monero, but for the most part, I stopped. I even advised people that both Monero and Dash are worthy of investment. If you and the rest of the Monero community didn't constantly antagonize, I would only have positive things to say about Monero.

10 more votes and 75.4% think Evan instamined dash on purpose (up from a day ago)--the comparing marketcap talk is like bringing up NWA's record sales on a "Are the guys from Milli Vanilli ashamed for not singing their own songs?" thread.

The two are unrelated and monero wouldn't even be discussed here where it is off topic if dash defenders didn't resort to ad homenem. For example if it were really true that me criticizing dash was bad for monero we would see high monero volume as people rushed to dump. We don't.

It may be the lowest volume exchange for Monero, but it's still a somewhat popular exchange. I have an account there, although I haven't used it in quite a while. Either way, antagonizing Dash does not seem to be benefiting Monero much. I feel like you're expecting your actions to result in negative consequences for Dash. But the only thing that will bring down Dash is a glaring failure with Darksend, or an undeniably superlative competitor. Flinging shit only results in both parties becoming covered in shit.

The point is he cherry picked the lowest volume exchange for XMR, which was silly and dumb. Sorry I had to explain that, thought it was obvious.

I actually feel bad for Monero, because I think the developers are generally good people. It doesn't seem like they're in it exclusively for the money, judging by how much of their time and funds they put into a project that isn't expected to yield profits for a while. They could easily make pump and dump garbage, yet they work on boring (but very necessary) stuff like making a better database for Monero. If they didn't go around and shit on Dash all day, I'd be at peace with them. And I feel like the antagonism between the two coins could at least begin to subside.

Except that Monero's $8 volume earlier today was on an exchange that is trading with $152k. 





That means Monero volume is like ~0.001% of Bittrex's volume, and why you have to scroll to page 11 on Trex markets list.

Strange that all your Monero volume is on Poloniex (because we don't count HitBTC according to Fluffy)

About Bleutrade, not sure why you are trying to compare that to Bittrex as any measure, it's les than 1% of the volume...   

Lol. Smooth, I haven't even heard of that exchange before. Look at Poloniex instead. On XMR's primary exchange (!!!), Dash is at 26 BTC volume, and XMR is at 40 BTC volume. Dash is catching up on an exchange that is the go to place for Monero!

I wasn't talking about Dash, or Monero, you retard. I was talking about cryptocurrencies generally.


Another stupid comment. Here's Dash trading with $1 volume:

Love Smooth saying he cares about noobs in the Dash community because Dash community is dying - it's like everything is oppossite for Monero.

Smooth - your volume on Bittrex was down to $8 today...Monero is dying - Dash is the top alt after LTC...hello?

"Again objective, we've seen no reports of him selling therefore we have no compelling reason to believe he has."

This is utter gibberish. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence and this is about as far away from objective you can go - You answer in the negative and say that's objective, you mix up objective and subjective - Prosperity not being rude by nearly everything you write is gibberish and then when people point it out to you, you call them stupid.  Just sayin :/

Only the most disingenuous person now claims those launch "problems" were accidents because it being a deliberate scheme sabotages Dash's pipe dream investor sales pitch of mainstream adoption.

You predicted an instamine without compiled wallets, deliberately to help the developer to instamine. Then followed an instamine that did not have compiled wallets. Draw your own conclusion.