Topic: [POLL] How would you describe yourself politically? (Read 5915 times)
I am a Socialist, Conservative and Liberal (Progressive)
These ideological labels carry too much baggage. Focus on ideas and solutions. Do not politically label others or allow yourself to be labelled.
Divided we fall.
Divided we fall.
Exactly.
The labels are supposed to represent an overall logic. So if you identify with a label instead of the ideas it is representing, the label is open to being subverted, it's possible to change the meaning of almost any label.
So everyone in bitcoin can be labelled "right wing extremist" by the people who dislike cryptocurrency. It's too easy in this world to paint cryptocurrency proponents as selfish, racist, paranoid, insular ultra-nationalist radicals, when cryptocurrency advocacy doesn't determine any of those traits. It's a good thing we've got plenty of trolls on this forum to keep our arguments sharp, they're doing us a favour
These ideological labels carry too much baggage. Focus on ideas and solutions. Do not politically label others or allow yourself to be labelled.
Divided we fall.
Divided we fall.
Where do the environmental capitalists and left-wing fascists fit into this picture? 
Left-wing fascists? lol surely that's a contradiction?Not at all, the left often tends towards fascism when you add nationalism to the picture.
"a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government"
While it is often described as "right-wing" It generally depends on your definition of right-wing to be able to suss that out.
FDR (Franklin Roosevelt) is a great example of a left-wing facist. many "New Deal" programs were extremely controlling (minimum wage, price fixing see National Recovery Act, much much more.) For instance: On December 19, 1941 President Franklin Roosevelt signed Executive Order 8985, which established the Office of Censorship and conferred on its director the power to censor international communications in "his absolute discretion."
Very much proves to me my stance on this.
Politicians use ideological "packaging" very frequently, in order to get people to accept something they naturally oppose. Left-Right paradigm is the most beautifully abstract vehicle for this packaging technique, and it's the reason why I'm throwing out these contradictory tester statements.
"Left" or "Right" have no political meaning. Instead, they have a meaning projected onto them, depending on what the person doing the projecting wishes to achieve. A meaningless scale allows politicians to group together ideologies in a way that is useful to get the outcome they want; offer the public left wing liberalism, then deliver left wing socialism instead. What can you complain about then, you asked for left-wing, and that's what you were given!
(if you're thinking "but socialism and liberalism are left wing", then keep thinking...)
I think I'm leaning towards the Liberal and Conservative group. But I'm really jaded with the broken promises of some politicians. They just put their best foot forward during election/voting season and then after that when they get elected, they are back to the same old routine where they don't really do anything.
Where do the environmental capitalists and left-wing fascists fit into this picture?
Left-wing fascists? lol surely that's a contradiction?Not at all, the left often tends towards fascism when you add nationalism to the picture.
"a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people and in which people are not allowed to disagree with the government"
While it is often described as "right-wing" It generally depends on your definition of right-wing to be able to suss that out.
FDR (Franklin Roosevelt) is a great example of a left-wing facist. many "New Deal" programs were extremely controlling (minimum wage, price fixing see National Recovery Act, much much more.) For instance: On December 19, 1941 President Franklin Roosevelt signed Executive Order 8985, which established the Office of Censorship and conferred on its director the power to censor international communications in "his absolute discretion."
Oh darn... I was hoping "Clueless" was a choice.
I was going to put "I don't think" as an option, but I thought it might be unnecessarily inflammatory towards those who think they aren't political.
Where do the environmental capitalists and left-wing fascists fit into this picture?
Left-wing fascists? lol surely that's a contradiction? Libertarianism, Anarcho-capitalism or Voluntaryism are different names for basically the same ideology and fall under Anarchism, most of the Libertarians here probably are Crypto-anarchists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism).
People who call themselves Anarchist, mostly are Social anarchists (other names are Libertarian socialist or left-libertarianism).
Both want a government free society, Libertarians or Social Anarchists who want a minimal state are Minarchists.
If you want to put me in the best fitting box, it probably would be Libertarian/Anarcho-capitalist/Crypto-anarchist/Voluntaryist (pick a name you like).
People who call themselves Anarchist, mostly are Social anarchists (other names are Libertarian socialist or left-libertarianism).
Both want a government free society, Libertarians or Social Anarchists who want a minimal state are Minarchists.
If you want to put me in the best fitting box, it probably would be Libertarian/Anarcho-capitalist/Crypto-anarchist/Voluntaryist (pick a name you like).
Where do the environmental capitalists and left-wing fascists fit into this picture?
Oh darn... I was hoping "Clueless" was a choice.
Libertarian who nevertheless believes some govt is needed
Libertarianism, Anarcho-capitalism or Voluntaryism are different names for basically the same ideology and fall under Anarchism, most of the Libertarians here probably are Crypto-anarchists (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism).
People who call themselves Anarchist, mostly are Social anarchists (other names are Libertarian socialist or left-libertarianism).
Both want a government free society, Libertarians or Social Anarchists who want a minimal state are Minarchists.
If you want to put me in the best fitting box, it probably would be Libertarian/Anarcho-capitalist/Crypto-anarchist/Voluntaryist (pick a name you like).
People who call themselves Anarchist, mostly are Social anarchists (other names are Libertarian socialist or left-libertarianism).
Both want a government free society, Libertarians or Social Anarchists who want a minimal state are Minarchists.
If you want to put me in the best fitting box, it probably would be Libertarian/Anarcho-capitalist/Crypto-anarchist/Voluntaryist (pick a name you like).
Have all the conservatives moved to libertarianism or do they just not like bitcoin that much?
I'd argue that "hardcore" conservatives just tend to refuse to explore anything until it's already become mainstream.
No currency can't be better than good old hard dollar bills!
ITT: We pretend to be unique and individual snowflakes.
Have all the conservatives moved to libertarianism or do they just not like bitcoin that much?
I'd argue that "hardcore" conservatives just tend to refuse to explore anything until it's already become mainstream.
Have all the conservatives moved to libertarianism or do they just not like bitcoin that much?
Anyone ever wondered how the Nazis could be fascists when they were called the National Socialists?
Because evil people will label themselves whatever they think will get them the most support?
Ron Paul, campaigned for him
Ron Paul isn't a political party lol. Whilst I agreed with a lot of his ideals, I reckon if he would have got in it would've just been the same old story. I also don't like some of the stuff he has said and/or alleged to have said in the past.
Ron Paul, campaigned for him
I've argued about this in several threads and I'm not about to ruin another by bothering to respond to a sarcastic government loyalist.
? I'm a sarcastic government loyalist? I can't stand the government in this country.
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