POLL Is Craig Wright Satoshi Nakamoto? - page 5.

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Quote from: Dotto on December 08, 2015, 08:23:32 PM

What do you think?

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/bitcoins-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-is-probably-this-unknown-australian-genius/

To me seems legit...

This theory does not stand, there are many speculations and invalid arguments there... I still didn't understand why people spend so much time in these theories.

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Quote from: glon on February 04, 2016, 05:47:32 AM

OK so whatever the fuck happened to this story? No follow-up? No repercussions? How is it everyone's been quite about it for months?

It's really strange that this "gwern" person, who I take it is fairly respected, made a big deal about this guy being Satoshi. Then once doubts started to emerge it seems as if they just acted like it never happened. Huh

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OK so whatever the fuck happened to this story? No follow-up? No repercussions? How is it everyone's been quite about it for months?

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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

Quote from: knightmb on December 09, 2015, 01:44:17 PM

Satoshi did a lot of off-forum communication, some of which a lot of us still have in archive. I did contact the author of this article and gave them some clues to check for to see if it is really him. So far, no response, but no surprise after all these years, people have published many stories about finding the real Satoshi. I contact them, offer up some useful info not available on the Internet and usually the investigation falls through as the supposed Satoshi can't answer any questions from the past about interactions with other members here. The real Satoshi could contact any of us directly with a "I'm alive" message if he wanted to, that would clear up confusion quickly.

Ladies and gentlemen, allow me to introduce knightmb, one of the first bitcoiners, the founder of timecoin and at one point one of the richest in Bitcoin.

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Quote from: jabo38 on December 15, 2015, 01:58:43 AM

Anybody else waiting for an "I am not Craig White," message? Hahaha

What may make it a little interesting is if we never see one while Craig is in trial for his tax issues... not really sure if that would sway my opinion, but it might.

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mining is so 2012-2013

Anybody else waiting for an "I am not Craig White," message? Hahaha

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mining is so 2012-2013

There was an interesting case made but too many flags.

Nobody is Satoshi until those coins move.

He very well might have been involved in the early days of Bitcoin, but it most certainly was not his idea or code.

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Quote from: lolgato on December 14, 2015, 10:56:56 PM

Quote from: TheMage on December 14, 2015, 10:55:34 PM

Quote from: mmortal03 on December 12, 2015, 07:25:59 PM

Quote from: MaritiJames3 on December 12, 2015, 03:30:22 PM

I think he is. There are just to many things that can't be a coincidence.
He being mr. Satoshi has given Bitcoin a new dimension. But only the future can tell if he is it.
From what he said in the wired article (some secrects are best kept hidden), we should probably respect his anonimity.

Read the last two paragraphs of the following and tell me that he's Satoshi, and not a scammer just throwing around jargon to sound important: http://web.archive.org/web/20151121023834/http://cloudcroft.com.au/blog_ceoupdatenextfiveyears.php

This right here sealed the deal for me, Craig Wright is not Satoshi.

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to be released and commercialised

This solidified that he is not satoshi and never will be.

I just don't get why he would even insinuate he was. I mean there's the theory that he wants to seem important, but anyone in the community that really wanted to verify (i.e., to hire him) would know to have him sign an original address we KNOW belongs to him. He started the network. He kept it up. He knows the security. There's no way he'd magically not have access.

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Quote from: TheMage on December 14, 2015, 10:55:34 PM

Quote from: mmortal03 on December 12, 2015, 07:25:59 PM

Quote from: MaritiJames3 on December 12, 2015, 03:30:22 PM

I think he is. There are just to many things that can't be a coincidence.
He being mr. Satoshi has given Bitcoin a new dimension. But only the future can tell if he is it.
From what he said in the wired article (some secrects are best kept hidden), we should probably respect his anonimity.

Read the last two paragraphs of the following and tell me that he's Satoshi, and not a scammer just throwing around jargon to sound important: http://web.archive.org/web/20151121023834/http://cloudcroft.com.au/blog_ceoupdatenextfiveyears.php

This right here sealed the deal for me, Craig Wright is not Satoshi.

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to be released and commercialised

This solidified that he is not satoshi and never will be.

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Quote from: mmortal03 on December 12, 2015, 07:25:59 PM

Quote from: MaritiJames3 on December 12, 2015, 03:30:22 PM

I think he is. There are just to many things that can't be a coincidence.
He being mr. Satoshi has given Bitcoin a new dimension. But only the future can tell if he is it.
From what he said in the wired article (some secrects are best kept hidden), we should probably respect his anonimity.

Read the last two paragraphs of the following and tell me that he's Satoshi, and not a scammer just throwing around jargon to sound important: http://web.archive.org/web/20151121023834/http://cloudcroft.com.au/blog_ceoupdatenextfiveyears.php

This right here sealed the deal for me, Craig Wright is not Satoshi.

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to be released and commercialised

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Quote from: calkob on December 13, 2015, 03:52:52 AM

from what ive read it seems pretty convincing, i know some have said about the emails being fake and some ot the forum posts have been edited, but i would gave to say it the most convincing so far.......

The altered data is what makes it fairly obvious he ISN'T the original. The real Satoshi would be able to sign a message.

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Quote from: calkob on December 13, 2015, 03:52:52 AM

from what ive read it seems pretty convincing, i know some have said about the emails being fake and some ot the forum posts have been edited, but i would gave to say it the most convincing so far.......

There is only one true contender, and it isn't this joker.

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Quote from: calkob on December 13, 2015, 03:52:52 AM

from what ive read it seems pretty convincing, i know some have said about the emails being fake and some ot the forum posts have been edited, but i would gave to say it the most convincing so far.......

yeah but again a hacker finds emails on some early adopter guy he plans to exploit/blackmail ...and finds he is bragging he is satoshi (so he can do his scams and convice australian tax folk on the 45 million in tax credits etc)

so the hacker tries to blackmail him on such...now it comes out .....he does not pay because wright knows he really is not satoshi no matter what his bragging emails say...nade .he has shady biz dealings and lying or implying he is satoshi on top of it....just saying is a scamer (hacker) found another scammer (wright) it could shake out like that (assuming wright did not want any of this info out 1) his biz dealings that look shady and or 2) his private implies that he is satoshi..he got targeted by hacker because he was an early adopter..hacker thinks "jackpot' wright tells hacker to screw off..hacker has a lot more stuff then wright realizes...ie wright is now screwed on two fronts by his own words 1) tax folk 2) implies he is (but not) satoshi

I will be annoyed if he is satoshi.....you think the press FUD on gox and such was wild...wait for 1 year of a trial for tax fraud on the founder of Bitcoin.....the press fud will sell much in advertising......much rejoicing in the yellow journalism world.....

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from what ive read it seems pretty convincing, i know some have said about the emails being fake and some ot the forum posts have been edited, but i would gave to say it the most convincing so far.......

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Quote from: repentance on December 13, 2015, 03:35:35 AM

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And the motivation for Craig Wright to pretend to be Satoshi Nakamoto was to scam the Australian Tax Office out out 10's of millions in Research & Development tax rebates.

I don't think that was the entirety of the scam. I suspect that at least part of the scam - and perhaps the most important part - was to get Bitcoin from others on the pretext of backing Denariuz. We've seen how easily "investors" can be convinced to part with their Bitcoin in the past. Saying you received $54 million in credits from the ATO lends an air of legitimacy, as does saying you're going to launch with a pool of 100,000 BTC but it's all self-referential stuff with the smell of smoke and mirrors.

This isn't going to be a fast investigation, but it will be interesting to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

I'd take any claims by Wright, including the claim that he contributed $23 million in Bitcoin to Hotwire, with a grain of salt until such time as his financial dealings have been verified by forensic accountants.

Could be simple extortion..they knew he was an 'early adopter' the hacker dug in and saw 'boasts' or whatever of him being satoshi....he probably said FU because he is not Satoshi and they hung him out to dry on his other endeavors......would be a good lesson to satoshi out there..ie pay the btc fine

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And the motivation for Craig Wright to pretend to be Satoshi Nakamoto was to scam the Australian Tax Office out out 10's of millions in Research & Development tax rebates.

I don't think that was the entirety of the scam. I suspect that at least part of the scam - and perhaps the most important part - was to get Bitcoin from others on the pretext of backing Denariuz. We've seen how easily "investors" can be convinced to part with their Bitcoin in the past. Saying you received $54 million in credits from the ATO lends an air of legitimacy, as does saying you're going to launch with a pool of 100,000 BTC but it's all self-referential stuff with the smell of smoke and mirrors.

This isn't going to be a fast investigation, but it will be interesting to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

I'd take any claims by Wright, including the claim that he contributed $23 million in Bitcoin to Hotwire, with a grain of salt until such time as his financial dealings have been verified by forensic accountants.

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To me, the evidence is against him being Satoshi. It seems like an elaborate plot for recognition (fame? Fortune from being picked up by a great company? Influence on the block size debate?).

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Quote from: MaritiJames3 on December 12, 2015, 03:30:22 PM

I think he is. There are just to many things that can't be a coincidence.
He being mr. Satoshi has given Bitcoin a new dimension. But only the future can tell if he is it.
From what he said in the wired article (some secrects are best kept hidden), we should probably respect his anonimity.

Read the last two paragraphs of the following and tell me that he's Satoshi, and not a scammer just throwing around jargon to sound important: http://web.archive.org/web/20151121023834/http://cloudcroft.com.au/blog_ceoupdatenextfiveyears.php

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I think he is. There are just to many things that can't be a coincidence.
He being mr. Satoshi has given Bitcoin a new dimension. But only the future can tell if he is it.
From what he said in the wired article (some secrects are best kept hidden), we should probably respect his anonimity.

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Quote from: keepdoing on December 08, 2015, 09:32:14 PM

Quote from: keepdoing on December 08, 2015, 09:30:10 PM

(C01n Ltd) - Director Profile
Dr. Craig Steven Wright
Organisation   C01n Ltd
Service Address   Suite 502 / Level 5
32 Delhi Rd North Ryde, Nsw Australia
Organisation Type   Private Limited Company
Industries   Computer Programming Activities
Dormant Company
Net Assets   £38,508,838
Headquarters Location   London, United Kingdom

Currently operates the only private Supercomputer in the Top 100 Global Supercomputers.
Supercomputer Listing: http://www.top500.org/site/50547

PS... he claimed in the video that he has relocated to Iceland in order to take advantage of their environment, which is most suitable for operating a supercomputer. He said he was about to launch an even larger one there.

All of this should be easily verifiable. I think we will soon know.

It's looking like no: http://www.zdnet.com/article/sgi-denies-links-with-alleged-bitcoin-founder-craig-wright/

How might he have faked such a nonexistent supercomputer's Linpack performance? Well, according to top500.org, they only verify a *sample* of the systems in their database, not the entire list each time, so maybe he just got lucky and his system wasn't selected the three times it made the list? Maybe he figured out some other way to not have to verify it with them?

From: http://www.top500.org/project/call_for_participation/

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In addition to cross checking different sources of information, we select randomly a statistical representative sample of the first 500 systems of our database. For these systems we ask the supplier of the information to establish direct contact between the installation site and us to verify the given information. This gives us basic information about the quality of the list in total.

It'd be interesting to find out from the following person if they ever selected his supercomputer for Linpack performance testing.

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Performance numbers for the Linpack benchmark are collected and updated by Jack Dongarra ([email protected]). Please report any Linpack performance numbers directly to him.

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