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Topic: Poll result: NXT is a proper cryptocurrency - page 19. (Read 24859 times)

legendary
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September 11, 2015, 11:24:24 AM
QUICK!!!  Chop up and throw away all your debit and credit cards!! 


I agree , CC and debit cards are notoriously insecure and flawed conceptually in many different aspects . The quicker we can move away from them the better.


heh, thats not the fault of Java....but the EMV spec and protocol, which is nothing to do with Java at all.
member
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Merit: 10
September 11, 2015, 11:24:11 AM
I Think like many a coin it started with main intention of enriching the creator, but as with any coin that gets a foothold you must reach a point where being reputable and honest become more profitable.NXT is well past being a scam coin i think. Look at Dark, now squeky clean DASH .
legendary
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Merit: 1035
September 11, 2015, 11:23:10 AM
QUICK!!!  Chop up and throw away all your debit and credit cards!!  


I agree , CC and debit cards are notoriously insecure and flawed conceptually in many different aspects . The quicker we can move away from them the better. There will be a time in the future where we will tell stories to our children who will be aghast with shock and horror at the very idea that we used to give over all the information to commit both identity theft and future illicit transactions with every purchase and than store that information in multiple insecure databases awaiting to be exploited as well.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
September 11, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
only time can tell.
as of now, they are the one who has the most features out there working for public.
legendary
Activity: 1050
Merit: 1016
September 11, 2015, 10:57:32 AM
QUICK!!!  Chop up and throw away all your debit and credit cards!! 

They have a Java virtual machine in them!  Cheesy  Roll Eyes
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 262
September 11, 2015, 10:42:37 AM
NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

I like such games. My turn:

iCEBREAKER = Titanic = Eisberg = A lot of people killed = Hitler

Hahaha, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law this thread can be closed.

If NXT is a scam then Ethereum is even bigger one.

It sure feels like this community is devolving into frustrated suicide.

Seriously the community is dying. All sorts of dysfunctional crap going on.

No strong leaders since Satoshi left.

Lots of self-important masturbation ever since.
sr. member
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September 11, 2015, 10:20:44 AM
so if you don't use java whats a much superior language to use?
legendary
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Merit: 1035
September 11, 2015, 08:59:09 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20150811052336/https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t

Oracle supports security through obscurity model and embarrassingly demands their clients to stop reverse engineering and looking for flaws within their products.

Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK?

Sure, don't read into my comments too much as comparing the security of different languages is very complex. I was merely suggesting that many of the security criticisms that researchers have levied against java and oracle for both ignoring and delaying patching security flaws are a result of a Oracle mismanagement and creating a hostile environment to security researchers.  That blog post I referenced is both disgraceful, hilarious , and disturbing at the same time. The fact that it came from the CSO at Oracle should have provoked the board to fire Mary Ann Davidson immediately. For her to not have stepped down in embarrassment with this fiasco means there still exists a climate antagonistic towards open and collaborative effort in discovering and patching security holes within Oracle and thus Java which is largely controlled and maintained by Oracle developers.

Right now , unless absolutely needed many security researchers advise removing or disabling Java altogether. The irony is many banks force their clients to install Java expressly for security with online banking which makes many computers vulnerable to other vectors of attack.

P.S... I wouldn't call Nxt a scam at this point(although I don't see it going anywhere either), and while I prefer C++ over Java for many reasons it is good for an ecosystem to have many implementations like in bitcoin(I.E..bitcoinj, ect...)
hero member
Activity: 983
Merit: 502
September 11, 2015, 03:25:46 AM
I read more coment above, but im still confusing about NXT
NXT is scam if this coin can't used to pay something, but this coin can use to create other "new cryptocurrency" called NXT asset

so why people think NXT is scam coin ?

NXT is not just a scam coin, it's also a scam platform which supports creation of scam assets backed by nothing but vapor and hype.

Don't you realise how pathetic your trolling looks now that the market rates all these coins, you FUD so incessantly, higher than your shit clone Monero?
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
September 11, 2015, 03:03:21 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20150811052336/https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t

Oracle supports security through obscurity model and embarrassingly demands their clients to stop reverse engineering and looking for flaws within their products.

Ever heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenJDK?
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1010
Newbie
September 11, 2015, 02:57:56 AM
NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

I like such games. My turn:

iCEBREAKER = Titanic = Eisberg = A lot of people killed = Hitler

Hahaha, according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law this thread can be closed.
member
Activity: 61
Merit: 10
September 11, 2015, 12:48:22 AM
Guess what you'll find when you Google images for "ethereum wallet"... Wink


If NXT is a scam then Ethereum is even bigger one.
hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
September 10, 2015, 11:45:03 PM
so why people think NXT is scam coin ?

Apparently because mt gox was a scam as well, I guess.  Huh
legendary
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Merit: 1002
September 10, 2015, 11:21:35 PM
NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

And iCEBREAKER will never become a rational amicable person with fairly balanced views with an open mind.

I know, I'm back after a long break and now am collecting trolls to play with. He is quite promising.


I don't know CfB looks like that troll is pretty canned, grumpy and it's logic often fails completely. Definitely a real piece of work.

Good luck with the training  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 10, 2015, 11:00:42 PM
I read more coment above, but im still confusing about NXT
NXT is scam if this coin can't used to pay something, but this coin can use to create other "new cryptocurrency" called NXT asset

so why people think NXT is scam coin ?

NXT is not just a scam coin, it's also a scam platform which supports creation of scam assets backed by nothing but vapor and hype.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
September 10, 2015, 10:54:57 PM
I read more coment above, but im still confusing about NXT
NXT is scam if this coin can't used to pay something, but this coin can use to create other "new cryptocurrency" called NXT asset

so why people think NXT is scam coin ?
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 10, 2015, 10:42:47 PM
I dont understand the metaphore? Can you explain?

How is NXT close to MTGOX?

NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

Can you do anything other than troll and conflate separate concerns?

Java == MtGox. You've just destroyed any shred of credibility you had remaining.

I was asked to explain the metaphor, and that's what I did.

Metaphors should be logical.

Metaphors should be apt.

If they were strictly logical (ie literally true) they wouldn't be metaphors!

The definition of 'logic' is not 'literally true', rather a logical metaphor is one that doesn't have an obvious case of dissimilarity or where the similarity does not exist.

Wow, you sure can use a lot of words to describe what most people would simply call "apt."


MtGox was programmed in PHP thus Java has an obvious direct dissimilarity with MtGox which is stronger than the transitive similarity you argued comes from popular websites because in fact you would be arguing every popular website is both MtGox and Nxt.

Logic fail. And this is why you are not worth shit. Go hide under a rock loser. You aren't worth another second of my time.

I never said Gox was programmed in Java, but go ahead and keep beating that strawman.

Keep pretending 'Because Popular Websites' is a good reason to use Java for e-cash.

In the unlikely event it ever actually exists, I'm going to make sure your Scamcoin is the biggest failure since XT.   Grin
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 262
September 10, 2015, 09:46:27 PM
I dont understand the metaphore? Can you explain?

How is NXT close to MTGOX?

NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

Can you do anything other than troll and conflate separate concerns?

Java == MtGox. You've just destroyed any shred of credibility you had remaining.

I was asked to explain the metaphor, and that's what I did.

Metaphors should be logical.

Metaphors should be apt.

If they were strictly logical (ie literally true) they wouldn't be metaphors!

The definition of 'logic' is not 'literally true', rather a logical metaphor is one that doesn't have an obvious case of dissimilarity or where the similarity does not exist.

MtGox was programmed in PHP thus Java has an obvious direct dissimilarity with MtGox which is stronger than the transitive similarity you argued comes from popular websites because in fact you would be arguing every popular website is both MtGox and Nxt.

Logic fail. And this is why you are not worth shit. Go hide under a rock loser. You aren't worth another second of my time.

Note to readers I am treating iCEBREAKER so harshly because he is so incredibly disrespectful to everyone. Just read his archives.
legendary
Activity: 994
Merit: 1035
September 10, 2015, 09:41:04 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20150811052336/https://blogs.oracle.com/maryanndavidson/entry/no_you_really_can_t

Oracle supports security through obscurity model and embarrassingly demands their clients to stop reverse engineering and looking for flaws within their products.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 10, 2015, 08:37:26 PM
I dont understand the metaphore? Can you explain?

How is NXT close to MTGOX?

NXT = Java = popular websites = MtGox

Can you do anything other than troll and conflate separate concerns?

Java == MtGox. You've just destroyed any shred of credibility you had remaining.

I was asked to explain the metaphor, and that's what I did.

Metaphors should be logical.

Metaphors should be apt.

If they were strictly logical (ie literally true) they wouldn't be metaphors!  You've just destroyed any shred of credibility you had remaining.

As when Galvin used 2MB web pages to justify XT (only be to #R3KT by Szabo), rationalizing Java for crypto/Ecash "Because Popular Websites" is begging for a snarky MtGox reference.
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