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Topic: Poll result: NXT is a proper cryptocurrency - page 21. (Read 24859 times)

legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
legendary
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legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 10, 2015, 02:04:51 AM
#91
my Scala crypto program

Oh nice, I just mentioned Scala.  That's a decent choice for an NXT/ETH killer.  Carry on.

But if my power, water, refuse/recycling, and Comcast continue on through 2015.75 (or whatever you were calling Dooomsday) with negligible downtime, you (and MarTinfoil Armstrong) are going to have some 'splaining to do!   Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 10, 2015, 01:58:02 AM
#90
Java Scala is #1 choice in Finance industry with C# slowly catching up.

Fixed.   Wink
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
September 10, 2015, 01:52:39 AM
#89
The JVM doesn't just exist in splendid isolation.  Even (falsely) assuming it's secure/stable,

Even falsely assuming any new coin is secure/stable, including Bitcoin which had another bug recently which I saw you were commenting on.

I can assure you the JVM has orders-of-magnitude more eyeballs and test hours logged than Bitcoin and all the shitcoins combined.

the JVM can't (ie shouldn't) do much of anything without its libraries and security models.

Oh really? Then how come I can run my Scala crypto program on JVM without including a ton of Java libraries and no security models.

And hey what does a sandbox security model have to do with crypto code. You are really lost now.

Why does pointing out the obvious advantages of 'closer-to-the-iron' low-level interfaces for security-intensive (fintech, crypto) applications make me a "classic asshole?"

Pointing out illusions in a way that seems impressive to n00bs.

For example, where is the automatic buffer overrun protection in C?

I will accept (slightly) below-market consulting fees

I wouldn't work with you if you paid me to accept your assistance. The Mythical Math Month in spades. You've demonstrated to me on numerous times your inferior skills.

Btw remember you said Armstrong was full of shit. And now October 2015 is finally here and it is all coming down as predicted. Surely you will make some excuses on that this. You've never seen an argument that you can't lie and fake your way through.
legendary
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September 10, 2015, 01:48:36 AM
#88
We should port Bitcoin and Monero to Java ASAP.   Roll Eyes

First words of yours in this thread that make sense. Bitcoin is ported to Java already, but Monero would indeed win from porting. Java is #1 choice in Finance industry with C# slowly catching up.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 10, 2015, 01:31:13 AM
#87
Java is more secure than C and C++, ESHPESHIALLY FOR FINTECH APPS.  We should port Bitcoin and Monero to Java ASAP.   Roll Eyes

I didn't say it is more secure. But your FUD was over the top.

There are ways to use the JVM especially for example with a non-Java language and careful selection of libraries that has no reason to be any less secure than C and actually can be more secure in some respects (e.g. prevent buffer overruns that C doesn't, etc).

Also if you've got a lot of high level logic buried in low level noise, you are potentially more likely to have a bug in there which could be a security hole.

It is not some C is 1000X better than JVM.

If you want to say that Java libraries and security models suck, then fine. But don't damn the JVM (virtual machine) which is stable.

Cripes then you come back and spread more FUD again.

You are a classic asshole.

OMG...hi Anonymint.  Didn't realize it was you, not that I'd (out of respect) pull punches anyway.

The JVM doesn't just exist in splendid isolation.  Even (falsely) assuming it's secure/stable, the JVM can't (ie shouldn't) do much of anything without its libraries and security models.

Why does pointing out the obvious advantages of 'closer-to-the-iron' low-level interfaces for security-intensive (fintech, crypto) applications make me a "classic asshole?"

Is it because you are launching your ShelbyCoin on Java, or (Goddess forbid) NXT?  OMG, please tell me I'm wrong!!!  I will accept (slightly) below-market consulting fees if you need help finding a better approach, just because I know your attention span and risk tolerances are extremely limited (and feel sorry for you).
member
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Merit: 10
September 10, 2015, 12:17:31 AM
#86
NXT its not a scam cause it does not takes me money but the factor of NXT waletts for instances into java makes it dependable of versions
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 10, 2015, 12:04:22 AM
#85
Anyone who trust their coins to (very) high level languages like Java (and and its hopeless VM model) deserves to lose all their money.

Anyone who trusts your FUD deserves to lose all their money when you conflate the secure JVM with the flaky Java libraries and flaky Java security model especially the grotesque web browser sand box model:

https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=YMQqZoc6L3EC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&ots=82VUnh-Gfy#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://threatpost.com/javas-losing-security-legacy/102176/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610267/security/patching-has-failed--so-it-s-time-for-java-to-go.html

One doesn't have to use the flaky aspects of Java when using the JVM. For example, the BitcoinJ Android bug was due to an error in the random number generator Android Java library. It had nothing to do with the JVM (virtual machine).

This sort of error proves that at best you are a very junior level programmer, or probably not even a programmer.

Also, you apparently don't understand programming enough to understand that many errors originate from the lack of semantic clarity and high level semantic invariants static type checking that isn't done in low level languages such as assembly, C, and C++. And C++ is one of the most complex, grotesque languages ever with perhaps only Perl and Brainfuck making it look good. And take this from someone who wrote a million user application in C++ and another one in C. I estimate you don't even know what sort of improvements in correctness pure functional programming can provide.

Get off my lawn kid!

OK you are right.  Sorry.

Java is more secure than C and C++, ESHPESHIALLY FOR FINTECH APPS.  We should port Bitcoin and Monero to Java ASAP.   Roll Eyes
full member
Activity: 229
Merit: 100
September 09, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
#84
its a big threat to many coins out there if nxt ever got big. best to keep fudding it.


I didn't concern this coin and didn't want to concern for a long time and won't forever. I have said no any unhappy words about it, but I really didn't like it.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 09, 2015, 11:16:17 PM
#83
Here you go guys!

This guy ^ is going to create the most revolutionary cryptocurrency (whatever you want to call it). Look at that attitude.

Such a humble guy.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You want Kobe Byrant (of 5 years ago) or Jeremy Lin?

You want me to tolerate a lot of BS and not perform so all of us are happy losers, or tell you directly what is and what is required to win.

It's called being mature and humble.

Take a lesson from Satoshi.
legendary
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LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 09, 2015, 10:54:17 PM
#82
Anyone who trust their coins to (very) high level languages like Java (and and its hopeless VM model) deserves to lose all their money.

Anyone who trusts your FUD deserves to lose all their money when you conflate the secure JVM with the flaky Java libraries and flaky Java security model especially the grotesque web browser sand box model:

https://books.google.com.ph/books?id=YMQqZoc6L3EC&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&ots=82VUnh-Gfy#v=onepage&q&f=false

https://threatpost.com/javas-losing-security-legacy/102176/

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2610267/security/patching-has-failed--so-it-s-time-for-java-to-go.html

One doesn't have to use the flaky aspects of Java when using the JVM. For example, the BitcoinJ Android bug was due to an error in the random number generator Android Java library. It had nothing to do with the JVM (virtual machine).

This sort of error proves that at best you are a very junior level programmer, or probably not even a programmer.

Also, you apparently don't understand programming enough to understand that many errors originate from the lack of semantic clarity and high level semantic invariants static type checking that isn't done in low level languages such as assembly, C, and C++. And C++ is one of the most complex, grotesque languages ever with perhaps only Perl and Brainfuck making it look good. And take this from someone who wrote a million user application in C++ and another one in C. I estimate you don't even know what sort of improvements in correctness pure functional programming can provide.

Get off my lawn kid!

Here you go guys!

This guy ^ is going to create the most revolutionary cryptocurrency (whatever you want to call it). Look at that attitude.

Such a humble guy.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 09, 2015, 10:20:39 PM
#81
Why would you say Nxt is a scam? They really introduced some new developments and cool features do the ecosystem...

its a big threat to many coins out there if nxt ever got big. best to keep fudding it.

If NXT is so fragile (and thus not anti-fragile) that "fudding" keeps it small, it will never get big and will never deserve to.

NXT eschews the KISS principle; NXT on Java on [OS] represents a massive attack surface.

Instead of fighting features, it runs out to greet them and invite them to crowd into its already bloated code/feature base.

Plus it's affiliated with SuperNet, another vapor-bloated mess of hype and delusion that promises the moon and delivers nothing but bags to hold.

Refactor NXT's basic protocol into C/C++ and it might start to become be a semi-legitimate (PoW notwithstanding) coin.  Until then, it's just another scam.

Anyone who trust their coins to (very) high level languages like Java (and its hopeless VM model) deserves to lose all their money.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 252
September 09, 2015, 07:49:52 PM
#80
Why would you say Nxt is a scam? They really introduced some new developments and cool features do the ecosystem...

its a big threat to many coins out there if nxt ever got big. best to keep fudding it.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1009
JAYCE DESIGNS - http://bit.ly/1tmgIwK
September 09, 2015, 06:59:14 PM
#79
Why would you say Nxt is a scam? They really introduced some new developments and cool features do the ecosystem...

Because they are paid shills, fudding for some other altcoin that is in direct competition with NXT.

It's hard to convince people to buy a coin, but its easy to FUD the competitor with 1000x newbie accounts.

I had experienced this fud on my own wallet. Fucking shills make me lose money.
legendary
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Merit: 1010
Newbie
September 09, 2015, 04:44:03 PM
#78
Why would you say Nxt is a scam?

Because they missed the train, of course, haha.
legendary
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Merit: 1027
September 09, 2015, 04:38:22 PM
#77
Why would you say Nxt is a scam? They really introduced some new developments and cool features do the ecosystem...
legendary
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Newbie
September 09, 2015, 04:02:50 PM
#76
Well it must really suck to live where you guys live.  Tongue

No, it's a developed country. Tongue
member
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Merit: 10
September 09, 2015, 03:58:18 PM
#75
Walk into a store ask them if you can pay with NXT.... Grin
LMAO ROFL really nxt?

If I walk into a store and ask if I can pay with U.S. dollars people will laugh at me. Such money much wow.

I would get the same result. Even though the USD is a global reserve currency, its only accepted in like 5-10 countries as a means of payment.

Bitcoin atleast is international, although not widely used, but international.

I`d like to see how you accept USD in countries where there arent any exchanges, like africa. But you can exchnge bitcoin for good & services.

NXT might not be a payment currency, but it fits into the same category as bitcoin by being crypto.

Well it must really suck to live where you guys live.  Tongue
This is how we do in it the Netherlands.

http://timeline.guldencoin.com/
hero member
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September 09, 2015, 03:54:02 PM
#74
Walk into a store ask them if you can pay with NXT.... Grin
LMAO ROFL really nxt?

If I walk into a store and ask if I can pay with U.S. dollars people will laugh at me. Such money much wow.

I would get the same result. Even though the USD is a global reserve currency, its only accepted in like 5-10 countries as a means of payment.

Bitcoin atleast is international, although not widely used, but international.

I`d like to see how you accept USD in countries where there arent any exchanges, like africa. But you can exchnge bitcoin for good & services.

NXT might not be a payment currency, but it fits into the same category as bitcoin by being crypto.
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