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Topic: [POLL] Should BFL get a Scammer tag? (Read 4209 times)

legendary
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February 27, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
#61
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Does BFL truly have $25 MILLION in pre orders?

Micon pulled that number from.... somewhere no one knows. And Internet being what it is it keeps getting repeated. I'd seriously doubt they reached 10% of that number. Note that my guesstimate is pulled from .... somewhere no one should want to know..

At one time I, too, espoused the 10M to 20M figures floating around, but scaled back to the 3M mark. But, I'm now leaning a little bit higher considering Tom at bASIC claimed to refunded 1M to date with more to go. I believe that BFL should be about 10X bigger than Tom's mom-and-pop-and-son shop.
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February 27, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
#60
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Does BFL truly have $25 MILLION in pre orders?

Micon pulled that number from.... somewhere no one knows. And Internet being what it is it keeps getting repeated. I'd seriously doubt they reached 10% of that number. Note that my guesstimate is pulled from .... somewhere no one should want to know..
sd
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February 27, 2013, 02:02:27 PM
#59
You probably might be interested in scaled-down version called Penilino. It is single-seat version capable of carrying single Hellfire missile or 500Kg of cocaine.

What a choice! Does it come with leather seats and air-con?

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February 27, 2013, 01:59:29 PM
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Does BFL truly have $25 MILLION in pre orders?
sr. member
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February 27, 2013, 01:52:53 PM
#57
What the hell is BFL? I keep seeing it mentioned around the forums

Butterfly Labs = vaporware vendor.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/

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February 27, 2013, 01:31:04 PM
#56
What the hell is BFL? I keep seeing it mentioned around the forums
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February 26, 2013, 06:22:52 PM
#55
bump

Hah, this thread got bumped more than a BFL wafer.
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February 26, 2013, 06:05:43 PM
#54
bump
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January 13, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
#53
Ah, I see, then I'll just hoard and wait for the value of BTC to randomly explode.


legendary
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January 13, 2013, 12:24:08 AM
#52
The problem is that single Aurora bomber in basic configuration costs 35 million Bitcoins.

You probably might be interested in scaled-down version called Penilino. It is single-seat version capable of carrying single Hellfire missile or 500Kg of cocaine.
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January 13, 2013, 12:08:13 AM
#51
Please use PGP and encrypt your messages if you're going to sell military hardware.

Also, I assume you ship freight?
legendary
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January 12, 2013, 11:41:54 PM
#50
is this really the SC


It really is the 3D rendering of SC. It does not prove they have them, in fact it proves the opposite.

Look, I have 3D rendering of Aurora bomber! Anyone want to preorder them?

420
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January 12, 2013, 11:07:39 PM
#49
is this really the SC



missed the memo where they released images. also looked like the CES backdrop with bitpay had images of the new SC line too
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January 12, 2013, 01:09:26 PM
#48
Does BFL truly have $25 MILLION in pre orders?
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legendary
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January 12, 2013, 02:30:29 AM
#46
I told that Pirateat40 way of doing business reminds pyramid and confidence scam. Not everyone listened.

I told that BFL is scam months ago. Most of users here told I was wrong.

I also sell that all other ASIC "manufacturers" are in fact BFL shills. This is so well planned out and it goes so well that Pirate will look small compared to BFL.
420
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January 11, 2013, 10:54:31 PM
#45
when did bfl first start pre-orders?
legendary
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January 11, 2013, 03:04:59 PM
#44
Here you see how scammers behave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y#t=02m22s

Here's one where an author has put-off his pre-order customers for three years by telling them that he's waiting for the commodity price of paper and ink to stabilize so that he can finally send the manuscript to the the printers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDezLh76Bk

Luckily, sand is not a commodity.
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January 11, 2013, 08:02:23 AM
#43
Here you see how scammers behave: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y#t=02m22s
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December 17, 2012, 04:11:22 AM
#42
Plainly, the answer is yes. BFL has lied about shipping dates for months and they're still lying. They're still painting rosey pictures of their shipping plans and attempting to shift blame for the delays to an unaccountable fab. This has been done to lure in pre-orders away from other manufacturers that are actually much nearer to shipping products.

To be clear I still expect BFL to ship products, but the ROI for those recipients will be much longer than originally projected and there is an ever increasing risk that this company will run off with the funds or be forced into insolvency.

Naw, why rush it? Let January come and go, then February, then March...why drop the hammer too soon? Let them squirm moar. There's a reason only unresponsive scammers get tags here, and that reason is we need the drama; we're backing Bitcoin with it.
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