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Topic: [POLL] Should we ban something on the Bitcoin marketplace? - page 7. (Read 14833 times)

legendary
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If you ban illegal goods here, another place for them will appear

I think that's the whole point of the discussion - to keep it away from THIS forum if at all.
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let's at least ban things that are illegal in most regions (cp, heavy drugs, violence etc)
legendary
Activity: 2100
Merit: 1000
If you ban illegal goods here, another place for them will appear.

I think that's the whole point of the discussion - to keep it away from THIS forum if at all.

+1
it is needed to at least ban illegal stuff here
otherwise its bitcoin suicide at least midterm
legendary
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Eadem mutata resurgo

Force and fraud.
legendary
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Merit: 1006
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At the moment, there is really no illegal stuff on the forums, so this is not a problem (yet).

Perhaps this poll should be repeated in few months - after/if such goods become a "major issue"...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
I have probably another opinion that many of you. I think this forum should be about project development and comunity. Not about selling Romanian women, drugs, child porn or porn. If anybody want to offer this, let the separate forum appear somewhere around. But I prefer to keep Bitcoin "clean". I just don't want to send link to Bitcoin to my grandma, when big horse dicks appear on first forum page...

I'm not scared that somebody shut down this forum because of illegal content, but it can damage Bitcoin reputation ("Did you see their forum? Bitcoin is just for drug dealers").

Your grammar is a bit sketchy, but I agree with you 100%.
member
Activity: 109
Merit: 10
I put no bans, but I don't think it matters much either way.
legendary
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Merit: 1020
Stuff all the p0rn stuff in the NSFW section?
administrator
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Merit: 13032
There should be no rules on content beyond common sense. Correct categorization is necessary, though, so people don't see content that they don't expect. "NSFW" tags are fine now, but maybe later a sub-forum will be needed.
hero member
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Merit: 502
If you ban illegal goods here, another place for them will appear.
I don't have a problem with such things. I only have a problem with them attracting bad attention to Bitcoin and causing its greater mission to suffer. I don't care if they are on another website. I just don't think they should be on the official Bitcoin website.

Bitcoin is too important to get slowed down by easily-avoidable police attention.
full member
Activity: 173
Merit: 101
I suggest that there should be no fixed rules on this forum, but ad-hoc decision on specific cases.

In principle I am for total freedom of speech and no bans, but I can see why we want a clean image on the _official_ Bitcoin forum. Of course, if others want to advertise illegal trade in Bitcoin, they will do so elsewhere.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 252
This is the same kind of debate we have on wikileak.
Heh yeah, scared people VS people who feel that no matter what happens, bitcoin or one of its clone will free humanity a little more Smiley

Little close minded. It's not about being "scared", and I do agree bitcoin will live on if the forum dies. Doesn't mean common sense isn't needed to preserve what we have and grow it to the utmost potential and best reputation possible, especially considering it's infancy.
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 1002
No rules. Might revisit that if CP starts to pop up, but I'm not expecting it any time soon. Overall I don't think the forum is a very good place for trade of any kind. It's OK for now, but as the economy grows the sheer volume of announcements will make a forum unsuitable for trade. I suspect this may happen before controversial trade becomes a real problem, so the problem may well solve itself.

Things like CP and spam are already forbidden by unwritten rules (common sense).
legendary
Activity: 1615
Merit: 1000
No rules. Might revisit that if CP starts to pop up, but I'm not expecting it any time soon. Overall I don't think the forum is a very good place for trade of any kind. It's OK for now, but as the economy grows the sheer volume of announcements will make a forum unsuitable for trade. I suspect this may happen before controversial trade becomes a real problem, so the problem may well solve itself.
full member
Activity: 222
Merit: 100
Maybe a compromise, a middle ground can be found here. Do not ban them per s.e. but send them to a reservation... like give them their separate sections on the forum and let them stagnate or flourish there.

Creating a separate "black market" subforum will just give it more exposure.

I think you should ban child porn, assassination offers and similar things related to aggression on other individuals, but not drugs or consensual porn, because it's just peaceful trade with no victims.
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1008
1davout
This is the same kind of debate we have on wikileak.
Heh yeah, scared people VS people who feel that no matter what happens, bitcoin or one of its clone will free humanity a little more Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1372
Merit: 1008
1davout
After reading the posts here, my final opinion is : no rules, no CP, mirrors Smiley
legendary
Activity: 980
Merit: 1020
This is the same kind of debate we have on wikileak.
legendary
Activity: 1222
Merit: 1016
Live and Let Live
the shutting down of the bitcoin forum (in 6 or so months,) will probably be the best thing that ever happened to bitcoin.  Many, many times in history when a group is prosecuted, they decentralize and spread out.

Providing we get the bitcoin foundation strong enough to survive an attack before then, the bitcoin community will emerge much, much, much stronger and hardened.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 252
What is our goal here?

Is our goal to destroy fiat money?

Or is it something more radical than this?

Obviously, the community is made of individuals with differing perspective on politics. How should we handle this political diversity? Should we let the philosophy of the members guide bitcoin's development?

This wouldn't interfere with bitcoin at all. Users can still spend them on what they please. The question should be, what is the forum's goal? And I don't think it's to grab any attention possible.

If you ban illegal goods here, another place for them will appear.
That's the point. I could care less where else they appear. Why risk government involvement and bad business reputation with providing it here?


I'm sure we could all agree to prohibit child porn. That's already an exception to our freedoms on this board, but because it's believed by the majority, it's upheld and accepted. I don't care if drugs are sold with bitcoins or porn or other things, I just don't see any point whatsoever in having this done here, where businesses will come to gather information of the user base and where users will first look to gather an opinion of the community. Majority of users will be weary in a place that openly sells drugs, and majority of businesses would think three times before even allowing the notion of bitcoins if they saw that happening in the forums. Why bring negative attention? The whole internet is a big open field. Run free and express yourself however you want. Make a black market forum using bitcoins. Sell your drugs. I just don't see why it has to be done here. There's always limits to how much freedom you can have, the child porn being a perfect example. Focus on what the forum is most important for.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
I have probably another opinion that many of you. I think this forum should be about project development and comunity. Not about selling Romanian women, drugs, child porn or porn. If anybody want to offer this, let the separate forum appear somewhere around. But I prefer to keep Bitcoin "clean". I just don't want to send link to Bitcoin to my grandma, when big horse dicks appear on first forum page...

I'm not scared that somebody shut down this forum because of illegal content, but it can damage Bitcoin reputation ("Did you see their forum? Bitcoin is just for drug dealers").
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