[POLL] What would get you to play NastyKeno?

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 19, 2015, 01:21:53 AM

Any particular reason on why not offering a full set prediction like the weekly game?

Mostly because it was a test to see if the lack of an instant result was what was keeping people on the sidelines. It appears that the lack of an instant result is not what is deterring people, or it would see more action. It is quite possible that instant bets will be discontinued if there remains little to no interest. If there was an uptick in instant predictions, we would look at making them ALL instant predictions and thus giving the entire keno board prediction set. Perhaps after more time it will slowly gain a following of players and more investment in development would be warranted. I understand this is a bit backwards thinking, but this is a group organization project and not a gambling business focused on profits. Hopefully over a long period of time, the user base and experience is greatly improved.

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Quote from: OgNasty on May 18, 2015, 07:00:38 PM

Quote from: arallmuus on May 14, 2015, 11:40:14 AM

Anyway the instant predictions works fine with no issue here and as for the free games , I havent had tried it yet, Any particular reason on not making the payment instant yet? Since this kind of games cant be cheated though

We haven't built any type of system to handle instant payouts. It remains to be seen whether the demand exists to invest resources in developing that functionality. Very few people have even tried the instant predictions as they exist currently.

I see, people just arent aware of it yet perhaps

Any particular reason on why not offering a full set prediction like the weekly game?

Currently there are only two selection for the instant game while for the weekly game there are predictions address for the numbers as well. The house edge for the instant game seems like almost 50 % because the dissability to choose the numbers option

Code:

ABCDEF & 1

P.S : I may be wrong on the house edge number though

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 14, 2015, 11:40:14 AM

Anyway the instant predictions works fine with no issue here and as for the free games , I havent had tried it yet, Any particular reason on not making the payment instant yet? Since this kind of games cant be cheated though

We haven't built any type of system to handle instant payouts. It remains to be seen whether the demand exists to invest resources in developing that functionality. Very few people have even tried the instant predictions as they exist currently.

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Quote from: OgNasty on May 14, 2015, 11:25:01 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on May 14, 2015, 05:46:16 AM

As for the bolded part. I dont see any notifications nor the "manual release notifications" on the website though all I see was this

My bet for A-F is in this block, which is a winning bet https://blockchain.info/block-index/882143 but I havent got my winning yet although it is now 4 confirmations atm. Should have make the winning payout instantly as well if possible.

So you want me to add a notification that your prediction is pending manual release? It does show pending, but perhaps the manual release part could be more clear until it can be automated. Unfortunately at the moment, I still have to click send, which means 3am predictions might have a few hour turnaround. I also don't receive notifications until the prediction has a few confirmations, so you should expect a little wait for payouts on instant predictions.

perhaps it could be more specific like pending payout for address X . Since I was the only one playing and there is 1 pending 0.01 BTC , I could easily know that was mine but what if there are several people playing, it would be hard to distinguish it.

Anyway the instant predictions works fine with no issue here and as for the free games , I havent had tried it yet, Any particular reason on not making the payment instant yet? Since this kind of games cant be cheated though

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 14, 2015, 05:46:16 AM

As for the bolded part. I dont see any notifications nor the "manual release notifications" on the website though all I see was this

My bet for A-F is in this block, which is a winning bet https://blockchain.info/block-index/882143 but I havent got my winning yet although it is now 4 confirmations atm. Should have make the winning payout instantly as well if possible.

So you want me to add a notification that your prediction is pending manual release? It does show pending, but perhaps the manual release part could be more clear until it can be automated. Unfortunately at the moment, I still have to click send, which means 3am predictions might have a few hour turnaround. I also don't receive notifications until the prediction has a few confirmations, so you should expect a little wait for payouts on instant predictions.

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Quote from: OgNasty on May 11, 2015, 12:32:37 PM

The website update went live yesterday I believe. I'd be curious to know how people felt about the free games and I haven't had a chance to test the instant predictions yet, so I would welcome anyone placing an instant prediction to make sure the notifications and manual release notification are working. However, instant predictions will be exempt from the promotion of refunding predictions.

So, I have just been able to trust the "instant predictions" now. All I can say is it is much better than waiting the whole week just to know the result of course but still it is a bit hassle if I will need to verify this myself . Any plan of adding automatic verification as well? could be great addition for the game though.

As for the bolded part. I dont see any notifications nor the "manual release notifications" on the website though all I see was this

Code:

1KenoiKsaoNwxV9QGuAu5MExjMcp1h6Fbj
2:1 
Pending : 0.01 [btc] 
Total : 0.0200000 [btc]

My bet for A-F is in this block, which is a winning bet https://blockchain.info/block-index/882143 but I havent got my winning yet although it is now 4 confirmations atm. Should have make the winning payout instantly as well if possible.

Winning receive in my wallet !

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Since the instant predictions aren't currently incentivized to play...
In addition to the 10:1 payout, I will give a FREE $10 iTUNES GIFT CARD to the first person who CORRECTLY PREDICTS a "1" with an instant prediction.

The instant prediction address for "1" is:
1Keno1kMsCD6D5fwd3sx6PvNqsfwds8NPg

You could send 0.01 BTC, get back 0.1 BTC and a $10 iTunes Gift Code! Someone is going to win. Let it be you!

*Please remember that you must send between 0.01-0.02 BTC to make a prediction.

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Quote from: OgNasty on May 04, 2015, 02:33:05 PM

You can view the NastyKeno thread here for those who aren't familiar: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nastykeno-beta-promotion-1020151

or the website at: Keno.NastyFans.org

You can also read more about the organization any proceeds would be donated to (NastyFans) here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nastyfans-the-bitcoin-enthusiast-fan-club-est-2012-86854

TheAnalogKid has been running a several week promotion refunding 0.01 BTC to each incorrect prediction and there have still been unclaimed credits, leading me to ask...

What would get you to play NastyKeno?

Its a great idea. I am surprised it wasn't invented earlier.

I actually played this alot in Vegas and for the life of me couldn't win at all.

But we will see how it goes online

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 08, 2015, 05:38:19 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on May 08, 2015, 03:02:47 PM

TheAnalogKid will be updating the website with some new features

Since he is working with this , perhaps it is best to record all transaction for the game instantly/ directly at the website without the need to post on prediction in the nastykeno thread. If the "posting predictions" is recorded in the site than the nastykeno thread could be move to gambling section since it is not a forum-based game anymore. Thus then the game will gain some attention from the gambler here

The "posting" of predictions is to keep users involved while the game gets traction. While automating and displaying everything on the site is the goal, we thought it would be best to take baby steps there, so that there would be no wasted development on things that we don't want. At some point it will move away from a forum game and into a more robust website, but I'd rather that happened after we worked out all of the kinks.

The website update went live yesterday I believe. I'd be curious to know how people felt about the free games and I haven't had a chance to test the instant predictions yet, so I would welcome anyone placing an instant prediction to make sure the notifications and manual release notification are working. However, instant predictions will be exempt from the promotion of refunding predictions.

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Quote from: OgNasty on May 08, 2015, 03:02:47 PM

TheAnalogKid will be updating the website with some new features

Since he is working with this , perhaps it is best to record all transaction for the game instantly/ directly at the website without the need to post on prediction in the nastykeno thread. If the "posting predictions" is recorded in the site than the nastykeno thread could be move to gambling section since it is not a forum-based game anymore. Thus then the game will gain some attention from the gambler here

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Your feedback has been heard and soon TheAnalogKid will be updating the website with some new features as well as extending his promotion. The new promotion will be less generous (50% refunds for the first 15 incorrect predictions and instant predictions will be excluded from the promotion) but there will be an emphasis on continuing a sustainable promotion long term going forward. There will also be an added instant predictions section. You will be able to check and see whether you are a winner as soon as your prediction transaction is included in a block. Payouts will happen multiple times daily to save on transaction fees. There is also a new free games section for those of you who may feel the 0.01 BTC minimum prediction is too high and the Keno game alone isn't exciting enough. Keep your eye out for this update later today and thanks to those of you who have played so far! Keep the feedback coming.

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I think the minimum amount to play should be lower, maybe 0.001, a better design would be nice but not necessary, and like others have said, daily drawings, or immediate picks.

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Quote from: ajareselde on May 06, 2015, 12:21:04 AM

Why dont u just make it a daily drawing

I could guarantee that people will still not be playing if it is a daily drawing. Since most people like immediate result and that is why the majority likes dice sites (simple and fast).
If there is a chance that Ognasty could turn this into an immediate result based on the TX ID of the sender than there is a chance that it might attract some players

If you havent check on the link that I posted Ognasty , feel free to check it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hit-the-block-players-edge-betting-1029243. The concept of the game is the same with the Nastykeno but it is based on the TX ID of the sender

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Why dont u just make it a daily drawing, waiting for a week i even forget that i made a bet there. Giveaway is a nice thing tho, i was also surprised to see that some of
it wasnt claimed, but that may be because people didnt understand the game.
poll says it all, decrease duration, find another form of giveaway, it doesnt have to be a generous as this one, with time, people will come, but for now, anyone who wants to gamble will just go to dice site and
make a gamble and result in a second.

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 05, 2015, 02:31:05 AM

Quote from: bitbaby on May 05, 2015, 01:58:04 AM

One think I don't understand is this part:

Quote from: OgNasty on April 10, 2015, 02:00:01 PM

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

Quote from: OgNasty on November 20, 2014, 01:09:47 PM

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain. The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea. The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

I understood that it was based on Tx ID and one has to check which block the Tx was included in to see the results by checking the last character of that block hash, which is why I said that it makes it 100% provably fair, but was confused as to what is Nasty distribution. Thanks for clearing that up

And I agree, gamblers don't have a lot of patience and waiting is not one of their virtues.

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Quote from: newcripto on May 05, 2015, 03:26:00 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on May 05, 2015, 02:31:05 AM

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

Thank you arallmuus for explaining it well.I did not know before what this game is about.The shorter the duration of game will be the more popular it will be. Admin need to make some changes as you mentioned above, I am agreed with you.

Thanks. It seems that a more frequent prediction option is something that is wanted by most, and I will see about making that happen soon.

Quote from: XinXan on May 05, 2015, 07:04:28 AM

The promotions are always good but i dont understand how can you have better odds? In the better odds option, i mean how can you raise the odds?

It could offer higher odds, for example, instead of paying out 10:1 for a correct single character predictions, it could pay out 12:1. It doesn't seem like this is the stumbling block for potential users though as it seems people would prefer more promotions over higher odds.

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One free BTC to new users, with no deposit requirement and no withdrawal restrictions harsher than "you must gamble at least BTC1 to withdraw." Tongue

Also, wife checks browser history, so "nasty" has always been a deterrent. Why not OgKeno? Makes you sound more like a~~n arrogant Chinese kid~~ serious Bitcoin businessman.

There are no withdrawals or deposits or accounts of any kind on the site, only placing predictions, and the prediction amount is 0.01 BTC, not 1 BTC. I don't mind how the name Nasty makes me sound either. My reputation is not a concern I have. Addressing your question though, this isn't OgKeno because it is a game run on behalf of NastyFans, not myself. If I was hosting the site and keeping the profits, maybe OgKeno would be appropriate, but I am not doing either.

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The promotions are always good but i dont understand how can you have better odds? In the better odds option, i mean how can you raise the odds?

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IMHO you should add several games, like the current one is weekly, you can add couple of more games which open daily or hourly even and apart from that I voted for #5, I think giveaways and promotion always helps bring attention to a site.

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Quote from: boopy265420 on May 05, 2015, 02:51:36 AM

Quote from: arallmuus on May 05, 2015, 02:31:05 AM

Quote from: bitbaby on May 05, 2015, 01:58:04 AM

One think I don't understand is this part:

Quote from: OgNasty on April 10, 2015, 02:00:01 PM

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

Quote from: OgNasty on November 20, 2014, 01:09:47 PM

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain. The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea. The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

I navigated through this thread in games and rounds section and exact this is the main reason I avoided it to play. Weekly distribution is saddest point of this game. Distribution should occur more frequent which will encourage the players to come and play on it.

i think so that weekly draw result keep away many players to put bet on keno, i saw their giveaway thread in games and round section but to know about the result for a week is terrible period in gambling terms.

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Quote from: arallmuus on May 05, 2015, 02:31:05 AM

Quote from: bitbaby on May 05, 2015, 01:58:04 AM

One think I don't understand is this part:

Quote from: OgNasty on April 10, 2015, 02:00:01 PM

Wait for the next weekly NastyFans distribution (Fridays) and see if you predicted correctly.

The game is based on the TX ID for the weekly distribution of the nasty mining pool, the address of 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL is the payout address for the pool and since it is distributed weekly it makes the game less favorable as people need to wait for a whole week just to know the result

Quote from: OgNasty on November 20, 2014, 01:09:47 PM

It is of course connected to the p2pool share chain. The goal for us was to build upon the back of p2pool, not try and steal the idea. The address we're using for our custom payout system is 1NastyBTCcxbAQQ22kEijbXqgyBPRujftL and should be independently verifiable as mining on the p2pool share chain.

Thank you arallmuus for explaining it well.I did not know before what this game is about.The shorter the duration of game will be the more popular it will be. Admin need to make some changes as you mentioned above, I am agreed with you.

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