POLL: Will signature campaign rate drops impact participation?

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Quote from: jacktheking on November 08, 2015, 01:13:57 AM

Quote from: sukamasoto on November 08, 2015, 12:06:34 AM

I think people doesn't care about it whever campaign's rate gone low or not. Enrolling sig campaign earning bitcoin and it should just consider as bonus for posting. For me as long as I can earn by posting , no matter how rate they are , I keep enroll to any campaign even there are only 1 sig campaign left on this forum with lowest pay

I agree that it is consider as bonus for posting. However, I will not join a campaign if the rate is too low. I would rather use my spare signature space to advertise my Bitcoin related website. If I do not have a Bitcoin related website, I would link it to a useful thread on this forums such as https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-sign-a-message-990345. If not I would use it like how others in the past is used - asking for Bitcoin tips in the signature.

What rate do you consider to be your minimum for participating? What rate will be too low, that you'd walk away from?

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Signature campaigns too have budgets (here: advertising) and so, they are not here just to throw away BTC and not earn anything...
So, dropping rates must not be taken as a negative point currently and must not be considered while participating in them as the liquidity is high during these months, so rate drops are not a big deal...

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Quote from: sukamasoto on November 08, 2015, 12:06:34 AM

I think people doesn't care about it whever campaign's rate gone low or not. Enrolling sig campaign earning bitcoin and it should just consider as bonus for posting. For me as long as I can earn by posting , no matter how rate they are , I keep enroll to any campaign even there are only 1 sig campaign left on this forum with lowest pay

I agree that it is consider as bonus for posting. However, I will not join a campaign if the rate is too low. I would rather use my spare signature space to advertise my Bitcoin related website. If I do not have a Bitcoin related website, I would link it to a useful thread on this forums such as https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-sign-a-message-990345. If not I would use it like how others in the past is used - asking for Bitcoin tips in the signature.

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I think people doesn't care about it whever campaign's rate gone low or not. Enrolling sig campaign earning bitcoin and it should just consider as bonus for posting. For me as long as I can earn by posting , no matter how rate they are , I keep enroll to any campaign even there are only 1 sig campaign left on this forum with lowest pay

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I voted for No. As the Bitcoin rate increase, the value of Bitcoin increase - common sense. As the value of Bitcoin increase, we are still earning about the same amount of USD per post.

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I guess dropping the rates is alright when the bitcoin price jumps way up but my concern is that when the price drops back down the rates wont increase. It would help if there was some sort of value pegged to the campaign so that one knows what to expect. Why not just declare the rates in USD so as to avoid the confusion?

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Quote from: foxkyu on November 07, 2015, 06:58:31 AM

I think it's very fair.
My view in campaign manager is he has to pay more bitcoin and then his traffic in his service is still same. So he has to rerate his campaign payment.

And for participant, is always hope campaign still running like usual, no matter bitcoin price. And didn't think on the other side of campaign manager feels.

So the best option is to rerate campaign.

Fair? The Bitcoin price goes up yet we don't get the opportunity to enjoy the reward for our risk and also get a pay raise that's in line with Bitcoin's appreciation. Instead we get penalized!

Campaign Manager's don't have to pay more when the Fiat to BTC price increases. They can pay the same amount of bitcoin that they did before...and they'll likely get more traffic than they did before because the rise in fiat price creates a buzz around bitcoin.

Quote from: acquafredda on November 07, 2015, 03:53:51 AM

This matter shows that the following is still not valid
1BTC=1BTC

Unfortunately, BTC has long way to walk before its value will be recognized as it is by the majority.

I agree with this the most - until merchants begin thinking about bitcoin only in terms of bitcoin we will not see full adoption. This move by the signature campaigns shows that they still are oriented to converting their bitcoin to fiat...fiat remains king in our world of Bitcoin.

P.S. what does this mean? "It is what it is" doesn't mean anything. Everything is what it is so what's the point of saying it?

Quote from: Mickeyb on November 07, 2015, 04:08:24 AM

I agree with you 100%. But it is what it is.

Once again, it is what it is.

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I think that signature campaigns are a great source of extra income, so even if the rates drop a lot then I wouldn't mind because I just consider it as extra income to what I already make. The exchange rate is increasing rapidly as well, so I think the drops are justified.

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Quote from: erre on November 07, 2015, 07:02:57 AM

Quote from: Possum577 on November 07, 2015, 02:53:16 AM

A lot of the signature campaigns are claiming they're dropping rates do to one big week for Bitcoin. Will this cut in pay de-incentivize people from participating or posting for their signature campaign?

As for comments - what do you think about the drops in rates? Do you think campaign managers will offer rate increases when the BTC price settles?

Only in the world of Bitcoin can a boom in the economy result in lower pay!

What campaigns are dropping rates?

I think that at least bitcoin-related economy have to be strictly denominated in fixed btc price...

Afaik bit-x, coinut and magicaldice dropped down their rates

The current drop rates on our sig campaign didn't affected me since I used to convert my btc immediately to fiat so it's just fair that they dropped down their rates due to bitcoin price increase. But I'm not that fine with the limited post counts Cheesy

Still bit x is the best campaign Wink

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Quote from: Possum577 on November 07, 2015, 02:53:16 AM

A lot of the signature campaigns are claiming they're dropping rates do to one big week for Bitcoin. Will this cut in pay de-incentivize people from participating or posting for their signature campaign?

As for comments - what do you think about the drops in rates? Do you think campaign managers will offer rate increases when the BTC price settles?

Only in the world of Bitcoin can a boom in the economy result in lower pay!

What campaigns are dropping rates?

I think that at least bitcoin-related economy have to be strictly denominated in fixed btc price...

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I think it's very fair.
My view in campaign manager is he has to pay more bitcoin and then his traffic in his service is still same. So he has to rerate his campaign payment.

And for participant, is always hope campaign still running like usual, no matter bitcoin price. And didn't think on the other side of campaign manager feels.

So the best option is to rerate campaign.

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Quote from: botany on November 07, 2015, 06:03:47 AM

Quote from: Possum577 on November 07, 2015, 02:53:16 AM

A lot of the signature campaigns are claiming they're dropping rates do to one big week for Bitcoin. Will this cut in pay de-incentivize people from participating or posting for their signature campaign?

As for comments - what do you think about the drops in rates? Do you think campaign managers will offer rate increases when the BTC price settles?

Only in the world of Bitcoin can a boom in the economy result in lower pay!

I don't think signature campaigns are cutting rates. If they do, then participation will depend on what the competition offers. There are new campaigns popping up every now and then, and switching campaigns is not difficult.

However, if all signature campaigns, in a coordinated manner decided to cut rates, it might result in lower participation. This is highly unlikely to happen.

Most signature campaigns are cutting rates after this term[1] unless they are already underpaying like bitmixer.io. But still, I think the signature campaign's payout is still alright unless you are looking at the payment in BTC instead of USD.

[1] Bit-x has limited posts and cut rates after this period. Magical dice has opened a campaign that pays in USD.

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Quote from: Possum577 on November 07, 2015, 02:53:16 AM

A lot of the signature campaigns are claiming they're dropping rates do to one big week for Bitcoin. Will this cut in pay de-incentivize people from participating or posting for their signature campaign?

As for comments - what do you think about the drops in rates? Do you think campaign managers will offer rate increases when the BTC price settles?

Only in the world of Bitcoin can a boom in the economy result in lower pay!

I don't think signature campaigns are cutting rates. If they do, then participation will depend on what the competition offers. There are new campaigns popping up every now and then, and switching campaigns is not difficult.

However, if all signature campaigns, in a coordinated manner decided to cut rates, it might result in lower participation. This is highly unlikely to happen.

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Every signature campaign is calculating their payouts in regards to btc/fiat value, weather they admit it or not. So it's no surprise on lowering of the pay-per-post rates.
Doubt the participation rate will drop much,but there are people (like me) that would rather see for example 0.002 btc per post with btc price at 200$ than 0.001 btc per post with btc price at 400$.

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I don't think signature campaign rate drops, slows down participation any time soon as the rates are fair enough and are valid in my opinion... their adjusting to the value of bitcoin as well ... The only down side I see from this is that some might use more accounts on different campaigns just because they think their getting payed less but the situation is still as balance as it was before and this could lead to more spam posts unfortunately... It's going to take some times before the rates get adjusted to what they were before as the rates are still higher compared to what it used to be before the increase in value

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Quote from: acquafredda on November 07, 2015, 03:53:51 AM

This matter shows that the following is still not valid
1BTC=1BTC

Unfortunately, BTC has long way to walk before its value will be recognized as it is by the majority.

I agree with you 100%. But it is what it is.

No it won't decrease number of participants because there are always people out there that are ready to replace people that don't want to post for the current rates. It will probably decrease the quality of participants.

No I don't think that campaign managers will increase the rates immediately if the price returns to lower levels.

Once again, it is what it is.

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This matter shows that the following is still not valid
1BTC=1BTC

Unfortunately, BTC has long way to walk before its value will be recognized as it is by the majority.

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Quote from: Blue_Tiger73 on November 07, 2015, 03:23:12 AM

I don't think that the signature campaigns are dropping their rates, they are dropping the max post limit. I don't think that this will de-incentivize people from participating or posting as they still want to make money. From what I see, everyone wants to make money and they don't really care how they do it.

Campaigns that are underpaying users aren't dropping rates but those who pays it higher than average are either switching it to USD based or lowering it. Bit X for example dropped the payment rates and the max post limit. But most would go for higher payouts in fiat than Bitcoin.

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don't know about the other but i'll keep posting until the rate drop very big because the price skyrocketed too much

when everyone will gain peanuts with signature(let's say 0.1 per month) the partecipation will begin to drop, think

but you see there are still people playing with faucets, and they known faucets are pointless, so i believe we have a long way with signature before calling them dead

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Quote from: Blue_Tiger73 on November 07, 2015, 03:23:12 AM

I don't think that the signature campaigns are dropping their rates, they are dropping the max post limit. I don't think that this will de-incentivize people from participating or posting as they still want to make money. From what I see, everyone wants to make money and they don't really care how they do it.

No, some of the other campaigns are dropping their rates. Maybe the campaign you're signed up with hasn't read the memo but some of the others are dropping their rates....don't know how long it will last...The price of bitcoin wont stay high for ever so I don't know what type of effect it will have on the campaigns.

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