[POLL] WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM? - page 8.

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 10:30:17 PM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 06, 2019, 10:26:50 PM

What if Trump loses but says he won over and over again every day from Nov - Jan and TECSHARE believes him.

Doesn't matter. We go by Electoral College vote. If he loses but refuses to vacate the White House - I win.

But he didn't lose, 400k puerto ricans each voted 5 times in Florida and they bussed in 300k Mexicans that voted 5 times each in Georgia. And China hacked the voting system with help of the DNC so they could keep pushing their fake climate change hoax.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 06, 2019, 10:26:50 PM

What if Trump loses but says he won over and over again every day from Nov - Jan and TECSHARE believes him.

Doesn't matter. We go by Electoral College vote. If he loses but refuses to vacate the White House - I win. I guess we should define what happens if no one wins EC (tie or third candidate taking some votes). I would suggest a draw instead of following contingent election but I'm open to that if eddie13 prefers it.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on December 06, 2019, 10:26:50 PM

You should escrow and choose an arbitrator before bet is confirmed.

I'm fine without escrow. I can trust eddie13 with 0.1 BTC. But if we want to choose an escrow and/or arbitrator it should be someone outside P&S whom we both trust. LoyceV comes to mind, if he would agree.

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 06, 2019, 10:20:26 PM

Quote from: eddie13 on November 24, 2019, 01:56:49 AM

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

I'm in. Escrow or handshake?

Basic rules, which I hope you don't object to:

Result is decided by the actual Electoral College meeting (not by the "pledged" counts of electors or anything like that).
If the Electoral College doesn't meet by December 31 or some other reasonable date it's a draw (no winner).
No presidential election in 2020 (martial law, martians invading, etc) means you lose (or a draw - not sure about this one).
You win if Donald J Trump is elected and I win if he isn't.
Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means you lose.
Any other candidate getting elected (democrat, republican, third party, etc) means you lose.
If Donald J Trump is elected but doesn't get sworn in (dies, goes to prison, moves to Slovenia, etc) you win.

Anything else I'm missing?

What if Trump loses but says he won over and over again every day from Nov - Jan and TECSHARE believes him.

You should escrow and choose an arbitrator before bet is confirmed.

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Quote from: eddie13 on November 24, 2019, 01:56:49 AM

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

I'm in. Escrow or handshake?

Basic rules, which I hope you don't object to:

Result is decided by the actual Electoral College meeting (not by the "pledged" counts of electors or anything like that).
If the Electoral College doesn't meet by December 31 or some other reasonable date it's a draw (no winner).
No presidential election in 2020 (martial law, martians invading, etc) means you lose (or a draw - not sure about this one).
You win if Donald J Trump is elected president of the US in 2020 and I win in any other case.
Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means you lose.
Any other candidate getting elected (democrat, republican, third party, etc) means you lose.
If Donald J Trump is elected but doesn't get sworn in (dies, goes to prison, moves to Slovenia, etc) you win.

Anything else I'm missing?

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Quote from: GideonGono on December 04, 2019, 06:23:00 AM

I don’t get it though as why does the United States have only two presidents to run. And it is selected within the these two parties. I mean why can’t a person run independently with no party list or another partylist can be created. I think it linits the people choice because what if there is no one to choose among the choices made by these parties.

I don’t really know much about Trump since I don’t live in the US but most of the news that I heard aren’t that nice and I don’t know which to believe. It seems like people are just selecting which one is less worse than the other.

You can technically run independently or without any specific party, but it means your exposure is limited to the point of being unelectable essentially. The founding fathers of this nation designed this to be a two party system purposely. The main idea was the government would be so busy bickering with itself they would have less time to molest the citizens of the nation. Also, if a 3rd party were to get popular, it would make it a simple task to divide the nation just enough to enable a radical minority to take power. You see this often in nations with a multiparty system as opposed to a binary one. Obviously a two party system is shit, but it is less shit than the shittier ones.

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I am sure he will.. People usually love weird and racist people so they can elect him even 5 times. I can not see any opposition who is strong so I am pretty sure he would win the election again.

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Quote from: GideonGono on December 04, 2019, 06:23:00 AM

I don’t get it though as why does the United States have only two presidents to run. And it is selected within the these two parties. I mean why can’t a person run independently with no party list or another partylist can be created. I think it linits the people choice because what if there is no one to choose among the choices made by these parties.

I don’t really know much about Trump since I don’t live in the US but most of the news that I heard aren’t that nice and I don’t know which to believe. It seems like people are just selecting which one is less worse than the other.

Freedom allows more than two. But, if you don't advertise and campaign, nobody will know you, or know to vote for you. Campaigning costs money. Only the wealthy or popular have or can get the money to do the campaigning.

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I don’t get it though as why does the United States have only two presidents to run. And it is selected within the these two parties. I mean why can’t a person run independently with no party list or another partylist can be created. I think it linits the people choice because what if there is no one to choose among the choices made by these parties.

I don’t really know much about Trump since I don’t live in the US but most of the news that I heard aren’t that nice and I don’t know which to believe. It seems like people are just selecting which one is less worse than the other.

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Life goes on! Dems know that, outside of some bizzarre happening involving Trump, that they will lose 2020. But that's only 4 more years of Trump. Then they will be back in the driver's seat - they are hoping.

Trump is making a big dent in US and world operations. But it still is only a dent. If we like what he is doing basically, we need to be planning for the post-Trump era of 2024, just like the Deep-State Dems are doing.

Who better than Ivanka?

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Quote from: star7dust on December 03, 2019, 10:25:33 AM

I don't think so to be honest... Everybody seems to hate on him. It would be weird if he won again. And very, very suspicious Undecided

But I agree that there are no candidates that could seem as strong as him. We'll see. Gladly I'm not American haha Grin

Everyone doesn't hate him. Of course looking at our media you wouldn't know that. The rest of the world sees the US through our media, and without knowing and talking to residents here, based on that I can't blame anyone for thinking this place is insane, because that's what the media is.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 03, 2019, 03:17:13 AM

Getting a little closer.

YES - 24 (70.6%)
NO - 10 (29.4%)

@OgNasty don’t worry Trump is not going anywhere at least not for now, but things will quickly change if Bloomberg decides to use his cash and his media power against trump. It’s worth mentioning that Bloomberg have already stated they’ll not pursue any democrat leaders, but will go on a full scale assault against Trump.

Quote from: mindrust on December 03, 2019, 10:29:25 AM

Depends on who will be his opponent. As far as see, there isn't anyone who can win against Trump. This may change later but it is unlikely. Trump is not going to lose unless something very unordinary happens.

These all impeaching stuff is also adding more power to Trump. A smart guy would wait for him to make mistakes, not provoke him.

@mindrust the only democratic opponent who has the cash capital to match trump spending in these elections is Bloomberg, while he may not be the right presidential candidate but with media and cash on his side this elections can definitely be won by him.

Source: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-campaign-says-it-will-bar-bloomberg-reporters-over-political-coverage-policy-2019-12-02

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Depends on who will be his opponent. As far as see, there isn't anyone who can win against Trump. This may change later but it is unlikely. Trump is not going to lose unless something very unordinary happens.

These all impeaching stuff is also adding more power to Trump. A smart guy would wait for him to make mistakes, not provoke him.

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I don't think so to be honest... Everybody seems to hate on him. It would be weird if he won again. And very, very suspicious Undecided

But I agree that there are no candidates that could seem as strong as him. We'll see. Gladly I'm not American haha Grin

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Getting a little closer.

YES - 24 (70.6%)
NO - 10 (29.4%)

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Quote from: eddie13 on November 24, 2019, 01:56:49 AM

Quote from: squatz1 on November 19, 2019, 01:22:41 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2019, 12:35:13 PM

More than 80% think he will be elected to a second term at this point. 18 to 4. A higher % than I was expecting.

EH I mean we do have to remember that the people taking this poll are mostly going to be libertarians. And while Trump isn't a libertarian by any means, he is the closest when you're comparing with Dems and other members of the GOP.

He's like -- the best of the many evils in the eyes of many libertarians / people that like less regulation, smaller gov, etc.

Yeah that..
Gotta think longterm, past the current fads.. Preserve the constitution as much as possible and maintain a constitutional SCOTUS..
Pretty important stuff..

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 17, 2019, 07:54:51 PM

Its easy to feel like a winner when you don't put down any stakes eh?

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

Here you go Wink

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Quote from: eddie13 on November 24, 2019, 01:56:49 AM

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

I’m sure there will be some action when we get the final candidates.

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Quote from: squatz1 on November 19, 2019, 01:22:41 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 19, 2019, 12:35:13 PM

More than 80% think he will be elected to a second term at this point. 18 to 4. A higher % than I was expecting.

EH I mean we do have to remember that the people taking this poll are mostly going to be libertarians. And while Trump isn't a libertarian by any means, he is the closest when you're comparing with Dems and other members of the GOP.

He's like -- the best of the many evils in the eyes of many libertarians / people that like less regulation, smaller gov, etc.

Yeah that..
Gotta think longterm, past the current fads.. Preserve the constitution as much as possible and maintain a constitutional SCOTUS..
Pretty important stuff..

Quote from: TECSHARE on November 17, 2019, 07:54:51 PM

Its easy to feel like a winner when you don't put down any stakes eh?

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

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No. He doesn't have a good approval rating at all

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Quote from: bluefirecorp_ on November 20, 2019, 05:02:38 PM

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Vote Required for Disqualification

Sec. 13.10 The question of disqualification from holding an office of
   honor, trust, or profit under the United States, following
   conviction and judgment of removal in an impeachment trial, requires only a
   majority vote of the Senate sitting as a Court of Impeachment.

What this says is that if the Senate passes a 2/3 vote favoring impeachment, THEN only a 1/2 vote is required to additionally impose disqualification.

What it does not say is that without the 2/3 vote and without impeachment, a 1/2 vote may disqualify.

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