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Topic: [POLL] WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM? - page 6. (Read 2810 times)

legendary
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Calm down. They were making a bet was on whether or not Trump will be elected to a second term, which is the topic of this thread.

Since we are projecting emotional states upon one another, stop having a psychotic break, the topic is "WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM?", not lets iron out 100 details about a side bet about it.

Seriously, a 0.1 BTC bet is worth its own thread.

It is like "that big of a deal."

legendary
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Calm down. They were making a bet was on whether or not Trump will be elected to a second term, which is the topic of this thread.

Since we are projecting emotional states upon one another, stop having a psychotic break, the topic is "WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM?", not lets iron out 100 details about a side bet about it.
legendary
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This is all great and everything, but at this point I think this bet should have its own thread.

I don't mind them keeping this thread in view.  I want to see the votes continue to roll in.  I like the idea of people putting their coins with their mouth is on the subject too.  It's refreshing when actual blockchain activity results from a thread here.

Keeping the thread on topic by it having its own thread doesn't stop any of those things.

Calm down. They were making a bet was on whether or not Trump will be elected to a second term, which is the topic of this thread.
legendary
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This is all great and everything, but at this point I think this bet should have its own thread.

I don't mind them keeping this thread in view.  I want to see the votes continue to roll in.  I like the idea of people putting their coins with their mouth is on the subject too.  It's refreshing when actual blockchain activity results from a thread here.

Keeping the thread on topic by it having its own thread doesn't stop any of those things.
donator
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This is all great and everything, but at this point I think this bet should have its own thread.

I don't mind them keeping this thread in view.  I want to see the votes continue to roll in.  I like the idea of people putting their coins with their mouth is on the subject too.  It's refreshing when actual blockchain activity results from a thread here.
legendary
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Should we sign this soon?

Yes. Give me a day or two to restore my legacy wallet and I'll give you the address.

Signing is really optional since it doesn't prove anything that can't be proven by an unedited post here but since we're BTC nerds we might as well do that. The message should include the top part too I think. Something like this:

Code:
suchmoon's address: (standardized legacy please)
eddie13's address: 1vvSrTFiQY7akwbsv3iYPPe9mR3DsEbff

suchmoon agrees to pay 0.1 BTC to eddie13 if Donald J Trump wins the 2020 US presidential election, and eddie13 agrees to pay 0.1 BTC to suchmoon if Donald J Trump does not win the 2020 US presidential election.

Decision logic:

Election result is considered decided by the Electoral College meeting. If the Electoral College elects Donald J Trump the president of the US following the 2020 US presidential election eddie13 wins the bet, in any other case suchmoon wins the bet except for the draw conditions listed below.

Conditions for a draw (neither side pays the other side):

    If there is no presidential election in 2020.
    If Donald J Trump is not on the ballot in at least 26 states.
    If the Electoral College doesn't meet by midnight January 31, 2021.

Additional terms:

    EC decision is final regardless of popular vote, pledged electors, unfaithful electors etc.
    No presidential election in 2020 (martial law, martians invading, etc) means a draw.
    Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means a draw even if he wins via write-in.
    Any other candidate getting elected (democrat, republican, third party, etc) means suchmoon wins.
    If Donald J Trump is elected but doesn't get sworn in (dies, goes to prison, moves to Slovenia, etc) eddie13 wins.

This is all great and everything, but at this point I think this bet should have its own thread.
legendary
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Should we sign this soon?

Yes. Give me a day or two to restore my legacy wallet and I'll give you the address.

Edit: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bet-trump-or-not-trump-2020-eddie13-vs-suchmoon-5208356
legendary
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Who in his right mind would vote for Warren or even Biden? The guy can't even form proper sentences.

I agree. Let's disqualify everyone who can't form proper sentences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbE2SmV2bs

Hairy legs
I prefer this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m68Pw-KZvvo

Note the original version is marked as "inappropriate for some users" and forces you to log in to view it. Amazing how anything critical of the establishment on Youtube is suddenly not fit for viewing, almost as if they are using protecting children as an excuse to restrict the spread of content they don't approve of.

It amazes me no one has any comment on this creepy lunatic. If anything even remotely similar came out of Trump's mouth this would be covered on every outlet 24/7 until the 2020 election.
hero member
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Who in his right mind would vote for Warren or even Biden? The guy can't even form proper sentences.

I agree. Let's disqualify everyone who can't form proper sentences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DbE2SmV2bs

Hairy legs
donator
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Bet between suchmoon and eddie13

suchmoon agrees to pay 0.1 BTC to eddie13 if Donald J Trump wins the 2020 US presidential election, and eddie13 agrees to pay 0.1 BTC to suchmoon if Donald J Trump does not win the 2020 US presidential election.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. Way to keep things interesting.
legendary
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Should we sign this soon?

Code:
suchmoon (standardized legacy please) takes eddie13's 1vvSrTFiQY7akwbsv3iYPPe9mR3DsEbff bet that Trump will win the election if stipulations are met as follows..

Conditions for a draw
If there is no presidential election in 2020.
If Donald J Trump is not on the ballot in at least 26 states.
If the Electoral College doesn't meet by midnight January 31, 2021.
Additional terms-
EC decision is final regardless of popular vote, pledged electors, unfaithful electors etc.
No presidential election in 2020 (martial law, martians invading, etc) means a draw.
Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means a draw even if he wins via write-in.
Any other candidate getting elected (democrat, republican, third party, etc) means suchmoon wins.
If Donald J Trump is elected but doesn't get sworn in (dies, goes to prison, moves to Slovenia, etc) eddie13 wins.
legendary
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legendary
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Verified in Electrum 3.3.8, if it helps. Click for full size.

legendary
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I think I would have to know what software you used to sign it and use the same software to verify it? Not sure..
It didn't work on the one I tested mine with..

Electrum. But don't worry about that, I'll find a legacy address soon-ish.
legendary
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Would you like to involve an escrow/arbitrator?
Not really unless you do.. The public here are pretty good arbiters and any escrow is just about as likely to croak as either of us..

Anyone feel free to comment or shore up the legalese if needed. I want this to be as simple as possible but also without any loopholes.
Sure, let it simmer for a bit..

Let me know if you can verify the above.
I think I would have to know what software you used to sign it and use the same software to verify it? Not sure..
It didn't work on the one I tested mine with..
legendary
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Bet between suchmoon and eddie13

suchmoon agrees to pay 0.1 BTC to eddie13 if Donald J Trump wins the 2020 US presidential election, and eddie13 agrees to pay 0.1 BTC to suchmoon if Donald J Trump does not win the 2020 US presidential election.

Decision logic:

Election result is considered decided by the Electoral College meeting. If the Electoral College elects Donald J Trump the president of the US following the 2020 US presidential election eddie13 wins the bet, in any other case suchmoon wins the bet except for the draw conditions listed below.

Conditions for a draw (neither side pays the other side):
  • If there is no presidential election in 2020.
  • If Donald J Trump is not on the ballot in at least 26 states.
  • If the Electoral College doesn't meet by midnight January 31, 2021.



Would you like to involve an escrow/arbitrator?

Anyone feel free to comment or shore up the legalese if needed. I want this to be as simple as possible but also without any loopholes.

Some examples from my previous post, adjusted for the changes we made, just to make sure we're on the same page. All of it is already covered in the above but if you think any of this needs to be included explicitly let me know.

  • EC decision is final regardless of popular vote, pledged electors, unfaithful electors etc.
  • No presidential election in 2020 (martial law, martians invading, etc) means a draw.
  • Donald J Trump not running for any reason (primaried out, dead, impeached, etc) means a draw even if he wins via write-in.
  • Any other candidate getting elected (democrat, republican, third party, etc) means suchmoon wins.
  • If Donald J Trump is elected but doesn't get sworn in (dies, goes to prison, moves to Slovenia, etc) eddie13 wins.

bc1qrelrvua55qnxw6r0hmexwpj8pn0jnytgv8g55t
suchmoon's address bc1qrelrvua55qnxw6r0hmexwpj8pn0jnytgv8g55t 2019-12-07
HxD6RqCE/m2jmfFXnx/oCL5EUyQflQauBacuJSM7SGAOBbvu1TxTD+j+C78wKZ7Rbx9At5KsFQ/OZaLrUK3mCuc=

Let me know if you can verify the above. If not I'll dig up some "1..." address that should be easier to verify.

legendary
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In order to honor what I said exactly I guess Trump has to win the 2020 election from this very moment barring any and all circumstances or "rules"..
If Trump doesn't win 2020 I lose basically no matter the reason, which is kinda a shit bet, but I'll take it if you feel like holding me to it..

Ok, how about this: let's call it a draw if Donald J Trump is not on the ballot in at least 26 states for any reason. That would reduce your risk of retirement or death, except if he dies between election day and the EC meeting. But this would take away your chance to win in another (very unlikely) scenario - if he's not on the ballot but wins via write-in.

What would you consider a reasonable deadline for the EC meeting? Is December 31 good enough, or should we make it January 31?

Sounds good, and Jan 31 sounds fine.. No rush.. I could see a lot of drama happening to slow the process..
Thanks for that concedence..

You want to write up a contract with that for me to sign after review?
I'm warming up my signature maker..

1vvSrTFiQY7akwbsv3iYPPe9mR3DsEbff
test test 12/7/19 eddie13
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1vvSrTFiQY7akwbsv3iYPPe9mR3DsEbff
eddie13 on 10/8/2016 owns 1vvSrTFiQY7akwbsv3iYPPe9mR3DsEbff
IKa46eSBLmTwz5Y2E+HmNq8sc1Of5dY5ne5Nk2FlUhJTNwxPk/skM2JcYyKnVPw/et3YBXu3fF9FbYz8rpr++sk=
legendary
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The 2000 election results weren't official till the first week of January.
legendary
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In order to honor what I said exactly I guess Trump has to win the 2020 election from this very moment barring any and all circumstances or "rules"..
If Trump doesn't win 2020 I lose basically no matter the reason, which is kinda a shit bet, but I'll take it if you feel like holding me to it..

Ok, how about this: let's call it a draw if Donald J Trump is not on the ballot in at least 26 states for any reason. That would reduce your risk of retirement or death, except if he dies between election day and the EC meeting. But this would take away your chance to win in another (very unlikely) scenario - if he's not on the ballot but wins via write-in.

What would you consider a reasonable deadline for the EC meeting? Is December 31 good enough, or should we make it January 31?

I like your contingency on the EC because what if Trump wins the EC but, the EC is abolished between now and then?
But I guess I would still loose if Trump lost because the EC was abolished..
I see all sorts of dirty tricks they could play..

Abolishing EC is almost impossible, particularly in time for the 2020 election as it would require an amendment to the constitution. I think we can agree that the constitution stays put, short of Martian invasion.
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