Pollard's kangaroo ECDLP solver - page 58.

WanderingPhilospher

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Quote from: AuorFedelmid on May 13, 2021, 07:35:18 PM

Does this mean that the puzzle transactions are not in the keyspaces that privatekeys.pw shows? but could be anywhere?

https://privatekeys.pw/puzzles/bitcoin-puzzle-tx

Puzzle 64 - Keyspace 8000000000000000...ffffffffffffffff ?

No, do not pay attention to fxsniper's post.

The puzzles are in the bits/keyspace related to the amount.

Like you said, #64 (.64 BTC) is in the 64 bit range: 8000000000000000:FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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Quote from: fxsniper on May 13, 2021, 07:24:29 PM

Quote from: unclevito on May 13, 2021, 02:23:28 PM

Is there any way to calculate the probable keyspace range of an address? Looking at the puzzle page the only correlation seems to be the balance. How was the keyspace range determined?

No.
I looking to way can calculate or can focus to keyspace nearly key but not found the way
now you can only random keyspace and hop to lucky
best method is bruteforce

What are you talking about that the best method is to bruteforce?

Do you still not understand how much faster Kangaroo is versus bruteforce/bitcrack??

There is no random keyspace; the keyspace is known.

What you are looking for is some quick way to find #120 with one GTX 1050 card...it doesn't exist. But instead of running tests and trying this and that, start on #120; work on it when you can.

AuorFedelmid

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Does this mean that the puzzle transactions are not in the keyspaces that privatekeys.pw shows? but could be anywhere?

https://privatekeys.pw/puzzles/bitcoin-puzzle-tx

Puzzle 64 - Keyspace 8000000000000000...ffffffffffffffff ?

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Quote from: unclevito on May 13, 2021, 02:23:28 PM

Is there any way to calculate the probable keyspace range of an address? Looking at the puzzle page the only correlation seems to be the balance. How was the keyspace range determined?

No.
I looking to way can calculate or can focus to keyspace nearly key but not found the way
now you can only random keyspace and hop to lucky
best method is bruteforce

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Thanks for the reply and answer. As being HEX deficient in knowledge does that mean you need the PK inputted to get the keyspace or can you put in the address as a watch only and get the keyspace. Then all these puzzles were generated from a wallet that used seed phrases if they were generated with a deterministic wallet, is that correct?

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He used a deterministic wallet.

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Is there any way to calculate the probable keyspace range of an address? Looking at the puzzle page the only correlation seems to be the balance. How was the keyspace range determined?

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Quote from: DoinSomeStuff on May 13, 2021, 11:03:21 AM

Quote from: Juniper2000 on May 13, 2021, 09:59:43 AM

Sorry for the stupid question.

But how can I import private key found by Pollard's kangaroo ECDLP solver? E.g. 0x60F4D11574F5DEEE49961D9609AC6

Electrum does not recognize it.

Make it size of 256 bits.
0000000000000000000000000000000000060F4D11574F5DEEE49961D9609AC6

and put it in wallet details as example on www.bitaddress.org

Don't input your private key on a website. This is a security best practice.

While there doesn't exist a convenient program that you can run offline and convert a hex private key with it, there does exist scripts like this one you can run in a Python shell (vouching for this one in particular because I myself am using it in my code).

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Quote from: DoinSomeStuff on May 13, 2021, 11:03:21 AM

Quote from: Juniper2000 on May 13, 2021, 09:59:43 AM

Sorry for the stupid question.

But how can I import private key found by Pollard's kangaroo ECDLP solver? E.g. 0x60F4D11574F5DEEE49961D9609AC6

Electrum does not recognize it.

Make it size of 256 bits.
0000000000000000000000000000000000060F4D11574F5DEEE49961D9609AC6

and put it in wallet details as example on www.bitaddress.org

Thanks!

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Quote from: Juniper2000 on May 13, 2021, 09:59:43 AM

Sorry for the stupid question.

But how can I import private key found by Pollard's kangaroo ECDLP solver? E.g. 0x60F4D11574F5DEEE49961D9609AC6

Electrum does not recognize it.

Make it size of 256 bits.
0000000000000000000000000000000000060F4D11574F5DEEE49961D9609AC6

and put it in wallet details as example on www.bitaddress.org

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Sorry for the stupid question.

But how can I import private key found by Pollard's kangaroo ECDLP solver? E.g. 0x60F4D11574F5DEEE49961D9609AC6

Electrum does not recognize it.

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Quote from: fxsniper on May 11, 2021, 09:19:17 PM

Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on May 11, 2021, 07:56:22 AM

Still don't understand....are you saying that Kangaroo can't solve #120? It can, with enough GPUs or time or both.

If you only have 1 GPU maybe BSGS (CPU) is better for you. Because you can split the range without impact and you will know if key is in split range, 100%

I mean if I search one search from my laptop from 2**119-2**120 at year may be not found key puzzle #120 from my laptop

I try BSGS many time, it eat my RAM 32GB and like it freeze , not work only low end laptop
I will try again may be I config wrong

Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on May 11, 2021, 07:56:22 AM

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Did kangaroo.exe use same calculate from python script tame=wild = key

No, as I have already explained, Td - Wd + Beginning Range = key

Thank you I got it

I gave you the correct/good settings for BSGS. You are not going to solve #120 running BSGS with the full range.
You definitely have the wrong settings if your PC is freezing. Stop using a setting that takes up all your RAM. I have an older PC with only 4 GB of RAM and it has no issues running BSGS; 4 threads running at same time.

GPU running Kangaroo...if you only have a 1050 GPU, it would take you way longer than a year, more like 20-30 years, unless you get really lucky, which could happen.

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Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on May 11, 2021, 07:56:22 AM

Still don't understand....are you saying that Kangaroo can't solve #120? It can, with enough GPUs or time or both.

If you only have 1 GPU maybe BSGS (CPU) is better for you. Because you can split the range without impact and you will know if key is in split range, 100%

I mean if I search one search from my laptop from 2**119-2**120 at year may be not found key puzzle #120 from my laptop

I try BSGS many time, it eat my RAM 32GB and like it freeze , not work only low end laptop
I will try again may be I config wrong

Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on May 11, 2021, 07:56:22 AM

Quote

Did kangaroo.exe use same calculate from python script tame=wild = key

No, as I have already explained, Td - Wd + Beginning Range = key

Thank you I got it

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Quote from: fxsniper on May 11, 2021, 02:58:07 AM

Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on May 11, 2021, 01:40:56 AM

None of what you said makes sense....if you could run one 2^60 keyspace range in 1 second, how many days would it take to run 2^60 ranges??
Random = starting point for each tame and wild then they jump uniformly.
You should really stop comparing the two programs, they are different.

I just think if still run kangaroo all keyspace 2**120 still can not solve his puzzle
I not have power with Tesla V100 or any GTX 30xx
I just got new GPU GTX 1080 (not ti) for working graphics 3D render
just looing for strategy for small card can do. and can run on some free time
if method notworking I change to other method can possible

You don't suppose to search all the space of course you won't solved it that way, that's what the DPs is for.

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Quote from: fxsniper on May 11, 2021, 02:58:07 AM

Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on May 11, 2021, 01:40:56 AM

None of what you said makes sense....if you could run one 2^60 keyspace range in 1 second, how many days would it take to run 2^60 ranges??
Random = starting point for each tame and wild then they jump uniformly.
You should really stop comparing the two programs, they are different.

I just think if still run kangaroo all keyspace 2**120 still can not solve his puzzle
I not have power with Tesla V100 or any GTX 30xx
I just got new GPU GTX 1080 (not ti) for working graphics 3D render
just looing for strategy for small card can do. and can run on some free time
if method notworking I change to other method can possible

Still don't understand....are you saying that Kangaroo can't solve #120? It can, with enough GPUs or time or both.

If you only have 1 GPU maybe BSGS (CPU) is better for you. Because you can split the range without impact and you will know if key is in split range, 100%

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Did kangaroo.exe use same calculate from python script tame=wild = key

No, as I have already explained, Td - Wd + Beginning Range = key

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on kangaroo.exe code Kangaroo.cpp

puzzle #115

bool Kangaroo::CollisionCheck

Td.Set(d1);
Wd.Set(d2);

Td: 1375401ECDB
Wd: 375401ECDB

and

bool Kangaroo::AddToTable
int addStatus = hashTable.Add(pos, dist, kType);

AddToTable
pos hex: B50F41E6EC1FA3D11BB4B3D39D7B3617BB8A4E20FACA58174DC2DFFF909429
dist hex: 1375401ECDB

AddToTable
pos hex: B50F41E6EC1FA3D11BB4B3D39D7B3617BB8A4E20FACA58174DC2DFFF909429
dist hex: 375401ECDB

I looing for private key variable
Where is private use generate?
I just looing to how kangaroo.exe calculate private key
Did kangaroo.exe use same calculate from python script tame=wild = key

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Quote from: NotATether on May 11, 2021, 04:49:08 AM

Quote from: fxsniper on May 11, 2021, 03:51:38 AM

(news) IRS Hiring Hackers Who Can Crack Bitcoin Wallets
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I believe they are looking for people who can exploit vulnerabilities in hardware wallets, not general-purpose private key crackers.

Quote from: https://u.today/irs-hiring-hackers-who-can-crack-bitcoin-wallets

However, the consensus among security researchers appears to be that hardware wallets have very few vulnerabilities to successfully hack them, which means that the IRS's effort will likely ultimately end up being futile.

yes, correct on detail there want to crack hardware wallet (not privatekey)

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Quote from: fxsniper on May 11, 2021, 03:51:38 AM

(news) IRS Hiring Hackers Who Can Crack Bitcoin Wallets
~

I believe they are looking for people who can exploit vulnerabilities in hardware wallets, not general-purpose private key crackers.

Quote from: https://u.today/irs-hiring-hackers-who-can-crack-bitcoin-wallets

However, the consensus among security researchers appears to be that hardware wallets have very few vulnerabilities to successfully hack them, which means that the IRS's effort will likely ultimately end up being futile.

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Quote from: math09183 on May 11, 2021, 01:58:03 AM

hahahahhahaha Grin

Guys, I do not know who hskun and fxsniper are, if they are this same person in real or not, but please... stop posting so stupid things. Stop dreaming that you will suddenly have an IDEA and break ECDSA. You have no idea about Bitcoin and you have no idea about math behind it. Please, stop compromise yourself and waste internet for your imaginations.
I do not know... maybe go to back to school or find a legal job. I understand you would like to get free easy money, buy you have no skills, no knowledge. Wrong way

Sorry I am not same person with hskun,

Don't judge people is better. (open freedom no judge)

Really, I know it can not break bitcoin. it can not possible to crack very large number. (right can not break ECDSA.)

just try challenge with puzzle not real bitcoin 256bit

I don't think is free, every thing have cost

if not do challenge is bored, challenge puzzle help to spend time
record puzzle #115 on wikipedia that record for destroy records to new one better

if no one try to crack bitcoin, it worst , it make bitcoin stop to continue develop, upgrade to more secure
(try crack to make it better)

I think just like research Vulnerability (Bug Bounty Programs) for fun
(Ten-year-old receives reward for finding Instagram bug)

comment like this make challenge people, make more people do it
good way to stop is support to do until leave themselves (give up) (you know already it is never happen and it is can not possible)

talk about it make activity

I may be give up in future (sure, possible) but not for this time (however I have limited time)

(news) IRS Hiring Hackers Who Can Crack Bitcoin Wallets , I just want to apply this job (legal job)
Sorry just kidding

Think positive please.

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Quote from: WanderingPhilospher on May 11, 2021, 01:40:56 AM

None of what you said makes sense....if you could run one 2^60 keyspace range in 1 second, how many days would it take to run 2^60 ranges??
Random = starting point for each tame and wild then they jump uniformly.
You should really stop comparing the two programs, they are different.

I just think if still run kangaroo all keyspace 2**120 still can not solve his puzzle
I not have power with Tesla V100 or any GTX 30xx
I just got new GPU GTX 1080 (not ti) for working graphics 3D render
just looing for strategy for small card can do. and can run on some free time
if method notworking I change to other method can possible

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