Topic: Pope Francis: parents can smack their children for bad behaviour - page 3. (Read 1795 times)
February 06, 2015, 03:52:40 AM
Gee that's an awful lot of rage and emotion in one paragraph, did your parents hit you when you were young?
February 06, 2015, 03:44:31 AM
Ah the old "My parents did that to me and I didn't grow up badly" lololololol 
by the way, let's not call it 'discipline' please, it's assault, if it was done towards an adult it would be considered assault.
by the way, let's not call it 'discipline' please, it's assault, if it was done towards an adult it would be considered assault.Lawful corporal punishment is not assault. An assault is an attack, not punishment.
While we argue semantics little assholes run amok and grow up to become big assholes, because of bleeding hearts that think you can always reason with children and make laws that prevent people from exercising control over their own kids. This isn't child abuse we're talking about, it's discipline. Time outs or lengthy discussions are not always effective or appropriate. Also, many kids just don't have the ability to understand reason, as well as there being adults who aren't as able to convey it, but they do know right from wrong. So to spare these kids a spanking you would rather the parents do nothing or just give them up to the state to deal with them? I think that would do the child far greater harm than good. While I admit that spanking also isn't always effective or appropriate, until we live in this perfect world you're dreaming of, where adults are always able to communicate intelligently with their always reasonable children, I believe spanking has its place as an acceptable disciplinary tool, provided it isn't used solely or abused.
February 06, 2015, 02:52:04 AM
Ah the old "My parents did that to me and I didn't grow up badly" lololololol by the way, let's not call it 'discipline' please, it's assault, if it was done towards an adult it would be considered assault.
by the way, let's not call it 'discipline' please, it's assault, if it was done towards an adult it would be considered assault. February 06, 2015, 02:28:35 AM
The same way I have a problem with parents who don't even try to reason with their children, I also have a problem with those that don't discipline them when necessary.
Obviously reasoning with a child is always preferable and parents should never neglect to do so, but if your child is being unreasonable then what? Just let them continue to be assholes and eventually the state can deal with them? If my parents weren't as strict as they were and if they didn't discipline me when they did, I most certainly would have done some jail time or maybe even be dead.
Obviously reasoning with a child is always preferable and parents should never neglect to do so, but if your child is being unreasonable then what? Just let them continue to be assholes and eventually the state can deal with them? If my parents weren't as strict as they were and if they didn't discipline me when they did, I most certainly would have done some jail time or maybe even be dead.
February 06, 2015, 01:51:46 AM
Congratulations you just justified assault on a child.
February 06, 2015, 01:51:06 AM
This is gonna sound bad but I thnk a loose slap is okay when the kid is yelling CANDY CANDY in a store for example. They get chocked, it doesn't hurt them but they learn not to do it. Telling them to stfu is never enough. :/
February 06, 2015, 01:33:56 AM
Scandalous! Next he'll say it's okay for the scout leader to pat boy scouts on the bum when they start a good fire.
As long as they start a fire under a pyre with some evil heathens attached to it it's all okay!
February 06, 2015, 01:17:19 AM
Scandalous! Next he'll say it's okay for the scout leader to pat boy scouts on the bum when they start a good fire.
February 06, 2015, 12:10:24 AM
I'll never hit my kid but I know it's a common thing in religion. I think the term they use is something like don't "spare the rod". I've just been through too many college classes where case study after case study shows all sorts of bad things for kids who are abused: lower grades, jailed often later in life, higher murder rates... the list is endless.
February 05, 2015, 11:56:51 PM
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Whoever spares the rod hates their children,
but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.
but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.
February 05, 2015, 11:49:00 PM
Incredibly sad, he's clearly just another religious prick that uses an invisible god to justify violence against other people.
February 05, 2015, 11:45:08 PM
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Pope Francis believes it is fine for parents to smack their children as punishment for bad behaviour.
He made the remarks, which were condemned by campaigners for child protection, in front of thousands of people at his weekly general audience in St Peter’s Square during a homily about the responsibilities of fatherhood.
The Pope recalled a conversation he had had with a father, who told him that on occasion he hits his children if they have been naughty.
The Pope, smiling and miming the action of slapping a child on the bottom, said: “One time, I heard a father say, 'At times I have to hit my children a bit, but never in the face so as not to humiliate them.’
“That’s great. He had a sense of dignity. He should punish, do the right thing, and then move on,” he told around 7,000 people gathered in the Pope Paul VI Hall on Wednesday.
The endorsement of corporal punishment was condemned by campaign groups.
“It is disappointing that anyone with that sort of influence would make such a comment,” said Peter Newell, the coordinator of the Global Alliance to End Corporal Punishment of Children.
Peter Saunders, the founder of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood, told The Telegraph: “I think that is a very misguided thing to have said and I’m surprised he said it, although he does come up with some howlers sometimes.”
He made the remarks, which were condemned by campaigners for child protection, in front of thousands of people at his weekly general audience in St Peter’s Square during a homily about the responsibilities of fatherhood.
The Pope recalled a conversation he had had with a father, who told him that on occasion he hits his children if they have been naughty.
The Pope, smiling and miming the action of slapping a child on the bottom, said: “One time, I heard a father say, 'At times I have to hit my children a bit, but never in the face so as not to humiliate them.’
“That’s great. He had a sense of dignity. He should punish, do the right thing, and then move on,” he told around 7,000 people gathered in the Pope Paul VI Hall on Wednesday.
The endorsement of corporal punishment was condemned by campaign groups.
“It is disappointing that anyone with that sort of influence would make such a comment,” said Peter Newell, the coordinator of the Global Alliance to End Corporal Punishment of Children.
Peter Saunders, the founder of the National Association for People Abused in Childhood, told The Telegraph: “I think that is a very misguided thing to have said and I’m surprised he said it, although he does come up with some howlers sometimes.”
More...http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11392641/Pope-Francis-parents-can-smack-their-children-for-bad-behaviour.html
Are you Catholic and are you of the pro-Pope group (typically of liberal persuasion) or anti (conservative)? Or, name your religious and/or political persuasion as a fun exercise in this topic. Or, just state your opinion in any fashion. I'm just curious what people across the world think/feel about this topic in general and subsequently what they think about the Pope's comments. I'll chime in later on.
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