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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 01, 2024, 02:48:17 PM

Probably not surprising outcome. I read rumours that Allegri can be next manager of Benfica. Not sure it would be good or bad. Only fact that it would be very interesting.

Today, every day, the radio channels in my country are talking a lot about the possible names that could become Benfica coaches. Of the 5 names, the most popular is Bruno Lage, who was once Benfica's coach. He managed to win the league but was later fired because he only won 1 of 8 games. So I don't understand why they would bring him back. Leonardo Jardim is another name that has been talked about a lot. He was Al Hilal's coach and won the Saudi league. He was also Monaco's coach and didn't win anything. He was also Olympiacos' coach. I honestly don't think he would be a good option. They also talked about Massimiliano Allegri.

The problem with Massimiliano Allegri is that he focuses much more on defense. I don't like the way the teams he coaches play. But sometimes his style works. Benfica fans wouldn't like Massimiliano Allegri's style. Mark van Bommel, who I also think is a bad choice. Finally, they mentioned Sergio Conceição, former coach of FC Porto. In my opinion, he would be an excellent choice. It is true that Sergio Conceição has some behavioral problems, but he is competent and could help Benfica win titles. He understands Portuguese football very well.

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Famalica has been going with unbeaten record with 3 matches played, the club won Benfica but suffered 2-1 loss to Vitoria de Guimaraes today. Although, the club can not be a long time competitor with Sporting CP. Sporting CP is leading already.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on August 31, 2024, 04:35:09 PM

Sporting CP 2 - 0 FC Porto

It is getting clear from the beginning of the season that this season belongs to Sporting CP. Be expecting more lower odds for this club in the coming matches.

Viktor Gyökeres scored for Sporting CP at 72nd minutes while Geny Catamo scored the second goal during the 4th minutes of the 5 minutes of the extra time given. Undoubtedly Sporting CP is the best club in the league for now.

There is no way Sporting will miss the trophy this season because I don't see any club on this Portuguese league that perform better than them, before the only club that is always competitive is FC Porto but since they have failed to withstand the performance of Sporting there is no any other team that can stop Sporting from wining the league because they already have the highest points after wining FC Porto and they are currently the top club of the table.

From all the clubs they have meet, Nacional and Farense is the two clubs that suffered so much on the hands of Sporting because the goals they conceived was too much, they gave Nacional 6:1 and Farense 5:0, however another club I'm seeing that will become a little bit threat to Sporting is Famalicoa because Sporting is just 2 point above them and if Famalicoa beats Vitoria today that means that they would have the same point as Sporting but they are currently playing 1:1 right now.

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Quote from: Slow death on August 31, 2024, 06:16:59 PM

It seemed that the Porto players were lost on the field, they had two shots that the Sporting goalkeeper managed to defend, apart from that I didn't see Porto causing any other danger to Sporting, it was very clear that Sporting was superior in this game and with that advantage in points

It was one of games were simply better team won. Porto wasn't able to offer much. Don't want to draw early conclusions, but Sporting looks like main contender to take title again. If you let them ahead early, it will be difficult to reach them. Especially when Porto and Benfica doesn't looks stable at all.

Quote from: joker_josue on September 01, 2024, 02:14:35 AM

He even fired the coach. Roger had already been doing a bad job since the last round, so it was difficult to continue giving time for something different to happen. Now Benfica is looking for a new coach. I believe that within 1-2 business days, we will know who will be the new coach.

Probably not surprising outcome. I read rumours that Allegri can be next manager of Benfica. Not sure it would be good or bad. Only fact that it would be very interesting.

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This is the question that is increasingly being asked. The problem is not just the results. It is the fact that the team in general plays badly, without any motivation. If the team lost, but at least it showed quality in the game, it would be different. Now it doesn't even show that.

Rui Costa, the club's president, even left the stands as soon as Benfica conceded the goal. So things really started to get complicated. Something has to be done, there is less than a month to go until the Champions League starts, and if things don't improve, it will be complicated.

Without any doubt now situation is not good as early rounds, and they are having problematic start in away games but still I have believed Rui Costa needs to keep calm and give some more time to coach because sacking coach quickly is never been ideal for any club as we have too many examples things like these ruin the clubs season.

He even fired the coach. Roger had already been doing a bad job since the last round, so it was difficult to continue giving time for something different to happen. Now Benfica is looking for a new coach. I believe that within 1-2 business days, we will know who will be the new coach.

Quote from: Slow death on August 31, 2024, 06:16:59 PM

It seems that the opponents were given red cards so as not to change the result of the game. These red cards are very strange, and given Porto's defeat in this game, I am even more suspicious.

By chance, that is not the feeling in Portugal regarding this point yet. Now, if this situation continues to repeat itself, things could change.

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Sporting CP 2 - 0 FC Porto

It is getting clear from the beginning of the season that this season belongs to Sporting CP. Be expecting more lower odds for this club in the coming matches.

Viktor Gyökeres scored for Sporting CP at 72nd minutes while Geny Catamo scored the second goal during the 4th minutes of the 5 minutes of the extra time given. Undoubtedly Sporting CP is the best club in the league for now.

Well let us not jump into conclusions nit so soon, because the season just started and there is a long way to go since other clubs in the Portugal league are also putting there best foot forward in this season who will be giving sport CP a run off for the league title.

This is football and anything can happen since teams like Benfica who are also leading in the match with higher goescores who may be making the season hard for the sporting team this season.

I'd say Sporting will dominate Liga Portugal this season too, it's pretty sure. I have ample reason to say so. Generally some renowned teams of Liga Portugal are Sporting, Porto, Benfica and Braga. Among these teams, Benfica and Braga have not been in good form this season. On the other hand, Porto lost their last match against Sporting by 2-0. So it can be easily assumed that Sporting team is in much better form than Porto this season as well.

Sporting team is in great form. In particular I would say Sporting's attack is very strong. The team scored 16 goals in 4 matches. And conceded just two goals. If Sporting doesn't lose the truck badly then I would say without a doubt that Sporting will dominate Liga Portugal this season as well. Also, with the likes of Porto and Benfica not in good form, it will be easier for Sporting to dominate Liga Portugal and become champions.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on August 31, 2024, 04:35:09 PM

Sporting CP 2 - 0 FC Porto

It is getting clear from the beginning of the season that this season belongs to Sporting CP. Be expecting more lower odds for this club in the coming matches.

Viktor Gyökeres scored for Sporting CP at 72nd minutes while Geny Catamo scored the second goal during the 4th minutes of the 5 minutes of the extra time given. Undoubtedly Sporting CP is the best club in the league for now.

It seemed that the Porto players were lost on the field, they had two shots that the Sporting goalkeeper managed to defend, apart from that I didn't see Porto causing any other danger to Sporting, it was very clear that Sporting was superior in this game and with that advantage in points

I see a scenario unfolding in which Sporting will distance itself greatly from Porto and Benfica. Because I see that both Porto and Benfica are not stable. Before this game, I even saw Porto as being better than last season, but after this game I see that I was wrong. Porto was lucky to win in the first 3 games. I say lucky because in the 3 games in which Porto won, all 3 opponents received a red card. For example:

Porto 3 - 0 Gil Vicente (Gil Vicente received a red card)

Santa Clara 0 - 2 Porto (Santa Clara received a red card)

Porto 2 - Rio Ave (Santa Clara received a red card)

It seems that the opponents were given red cards so as not to change the result of the game. These red cards are very strange, and given Porto's defeat in this game, I am even more suspicious.

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Quote from: Wiwo on August 31, 2024, 04:46:55 PM

Well let us not jump into conclusions nit so soon, because the season just started and there is a long way to go since other clubs in the Portugal league are also putting there best foot forward in this season who will be giving sport CP a run off for the league title.

It is not a conclusion but a speculation. I have noticed that any team that started good in this Portuguese league do come first.

Quote from: Wiwo on August 31, 2024, 04:46:55 PM

This is football and anything can happen since teams like Benfica who are also leading in the match with higher goescores who may be making the season hard for the sporting team this season.

Benfica is nothing before Sporting CP this season. It started the season poor as it lost to Famalicao and almost lost to Moreirense.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on August 31, 2024, 04:35:09 PM

Sporting CP 2 - 0 FC Porto

It is getting clear from the beginning of the season that this season belongs to Sporting CP. Be expecting more lower odds for this club in the coming matches.

Viktor Gyökeres scored for Sporting CP at 72nd minutes while Geny Catamo scored the second goal during the 4th minutes of the 5 minutes of the extra time given. Undoubtedly Sporting CP is the best club in the league for now.

Well let us not jump into conclusions nit so soon, because the season just started and there is a long way to go since other clubs in the Portugal league are also putting there best foot forward in this season who will be giving sport CP a run off for the league title.

This is football and anything can happen since teams like Benfica who are also leading in the match with higher goescores who may be making the season hard for the sporting team this season.

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Sporting CP 2 - 0 FC Porto

It is getting clear from the beginning of the season that this season belongs to Sporting CP. Be expecting more lower odds for this club in the coming matches.

Viktor Gyökeres scored for Sporting CP at 72nd minutes while Geny Catamo scored the second goal during the 4th minutes of the 5 minutes of the extra time given. Undoubtedly Sporting CP is the best club in the league for now.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on August 30, 2024, 04:36:06 PM

When I checked the scores at about 90 minutes, I thought Moreirense would win the match. If the extra time was not up to 10 minute but 5 minutes or less, Benfica would have lost the match. This would have been the second match lost which is not a home match. No confidence should a good bettor has on Benfica. Especially in away matches, they may likely lose.

In this game Benfica definitely play better game but due to lack of motivation and finishing things were not favourable for them in last four games they are having second poor result with both time they were on road which is also concerned for them because they need to be perfect in this season while big challenges are coming in next few weeks with things will be more difficult to manage. Having extra time like this was blessing for them while they concede late goal and then bring themselves on level.

Quote from: joker_josue on August 31, 2024, 02:06:06 AM

This is the question that is increasingly being asked. The problem is not just the results. It is the fact that the team in general plays badly, without any motivation. If the team lost, but at least it showed quality in the game, it would be different. Now it doesn't even show that.

Rui Costa, the club's president, even left the stands as soon as Benfica conceded the goal. So things really started to get complicated. Something has to be done, there is less than a month to go until the Champions League starts, and if things don't improve, it will be complicated.

Without any doubt now situation is not good as early rounds, and they are having problematic start in away games but still I have believed Rui Costa needs to keep calm and give some more time to coach because sacking coach quickly is never been ideal for any club as we have too many examples things like these ruin the clubs season.

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Quote from: Slow death on August 30, 2024, 04:23:46 PM

I'm wondering how much longer it will be before they fire Benfica's coach, Roger Schmidt.

This is the question that is increasingly being asked. The problem is not just the results. It is the fact that the team in general plays badly, without any motivation. If the team lost, but at least it showed quality in the game, it would be different. Now it doesn't even show that.

Rui Costa, the club's president, even left the stands as soon as Benfica conceded the goal. So things really started to get complicated. Something has to be done, there is less than a month to go until the Champions League starts, and if things don't improve, it will be complicated.

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Quote from: Slow death on August 30, 2024, 04:23:46 PM

I'm wondering how much longer it will be before they fire Benfica's coach, Roger Schmidt.

When I checked the scores at about 90 minutes, I thought Moreirense would win the match. If the extra time was not up to 10 minute but 5 minutes or less, Benfica would have lost the match. This would have been the second match lost which is not a home match. No confidence should a good bettor has on Benfica. Especially in away matches, they may likely lose.

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In the next round, we will understand this. Since we will have the big game Sporting vs Porto.

Yes, that is true. But about the club that is going to win, I just do not know which team is going to win the match. Sporting CP have the highest goals while FC Porto did always score in the first half and just have fun in the second round. I guess FC Porto is waiting for a time like this as an opportunity but it will not be an easy match for both clubs. I am expecting many goals in the match and most likely he might score.

We haven't seen a better performance than Porto last season. However, it seems that this season they have managed to solve the problems within the squad. Porto played well in the first three matches and won. Porto scored 7 goals in three matches and did not concede a single goal.

However, Porto's opponent is Sporting. This group is very strong. Especially the players in Sporting's forward lineup are in great form this season as well. Sporting won the first three matches. And the interesting thing is that the team scored 14 goals in three matches. So it is difficult to get 3 points in this match against Porto. Personally, I consider Sporting as the favorite in this match.

Of course the attack in my opinion is what decide the game most of the times. Porto can have a marvelous defense and not concede a single goal so far yet for me the fact that Sporting has scored 14 goals in three games means they are on fire no matter who their opponents were in these first three games. I must say that I am not noticing a better attack or midfield play from Porto compared to last year and in last season Sporting got the better out of them that is why I also think that Sporting should be the favorite in this game because of their great scoring stats in the first three games of the season. This game will also serve as a great index of the power of the teams and if Porto manages to win this it means that their defense is better than Sporting attack which I highly doubt it.

you are right Sporting team should be considered as favorites in this match. We have seen good performances from this team in the last season as well. And the team is performing great this season too. We have seen the dominance of Sporting in the first three matches.

Porto is a renowned team in Liga Portugal. But in the last few seasons we haven't seen much good performances from Porto. Porto was behind Sporting by a big margin of 18 points last season. Porto management should have strengthened their squad this season. But Porto management may not be able to strengthen their squad. I expect Sporting to win against Porto.

This season Porto is strong, they beat Sporting in the first official game of the season and honestly when I see the bookmakers giving odds of @1.76 and giving odds of @4.30 to Porto, I see that they are underestimating Porto a lot, it seems like they are forgetting Porto's strength. In my opinion both teams are on the same level this season and I would not be surprised by a draw. It will not be easy for Sporting to beat Porto. Just look at what happened in the Portuguese Super Cup game when Sporting played against Porto. Although Sporting was winning, Porto managed to draw and win the game and in the 3 league games Porto won all and did not concede a goal, while Sporting managed to win the 3 games but conceded 2 goals in two games.

I'm wondering how much longer it will be before they fire Benfica's coach, Roger Schmidt.

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In the next round, we will understand this. Since we will have the big game Sporting vs Porto.

Yes, that is true. But about the club that is going to win, I just do not know which team is going to win the match. Sporting CP have the highest goals while FC Porto did always score in the first half and just have fun in the second round. I guess FC Porto is waiting for a time like this as an opportunity but it will not be an easy match for both clubs. I am expecting many goals in the match and most likely he might score.

We haven't seen a better performance than Porto last season. However, it seems that this season they have managed to solve the problems within the squad. Porto played well in the first three matches and won. Porto scored 7 goals in three matches and did not concede a single goal.

However, Porto's opponent is Sporting. This group is very strong. Especially the players in Sporting's forward lineup are in great form this season as well. Sporting won the first three matches. And the interesting thing is that the team scored 14 goals in three matches. So it is difficult to get 3 points in this match against Porto. Personally, I consider Sporting as the favorite in this match.

Of course the attack in my opinion is what decide the game most of the times. Porto can have a marvelous defense and not concede a single goal so far yet for me the fact that Sporting has scored 14 goals in three games means they are on fire no matter who their opponents were in these first three games. I must say that I am not noticing a better attack or midfield play from Porto compared to last year and in last season Sporting got the better out of them that is why I also think that Sporting should be the favorite in this game because of their great scoring stats in the first three games of the season. This game will also serve as a great index of the power of the teams and if Porto manages to win this it means that their defense is better than Sporting attack which I highly doubt it.

you are right Sporting team should be considered as favorites in this match. We have seen good performances from this team in the last season as well. And the team is performing great this season too. We have seen the dominance of Sporting in the first three matches.

Porto is a renowned team in Liga Portugal. But in the last few seasons we haven't seen much good performances from Porto. Porto was behind Sporting by a big margin of 18 points last season. Porto management should have strengthened their squad this season. But Porto management may not be able to strengthen their squad. I expect Sporting to win against Porto.

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Tomorrow as we will be heading for the fourth round in Liga Portugal we will be having one biggest competition between two top teams of the league as Sporting is going to host Porto both are currently having 9 points from their 3 games and sharing top spot with Famalicao which is surprise package for this season after beating Benfica in first round match at home.

Sporting is currently having one of the best attack in this league and Porto is having impressive work in defense as they are having 3 clean-sheets from their first 3 games which is amazing stuff even Sporting is favourite for this game but still it's going to be not easy game for both clubs as both are looking for early lead in this season and this match is going to be interesting because with the lost of one team we will be having good chance for other opponents to have jumped into top spots and keep things for giving their best in rest of the season.

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A little late, but here are the results from round two:

MATCH DAY 3 - RESULTS:
AVS 1-0

Vit. Guimarães
Braga 3-1

Moreirense

Estoril 0-0

Gil Vicente
Arouca 1-0

Nacional
Benfica 1-0

Estrela Amadora
Famalicão 1-0

Boavista
Porto 2-0

Rio Ave

Casa Pia 0-2 Santa Clara

Farense 0-5 Sporting

Here are the games for the next round, with a big game: Sporting vs Porto.

MATCH DAY 4:
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Moreirense vs

Benfica
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Santa Clara vs

AVS
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Boavista vs

Estoril
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Estrela Amadora vs

Casa Pia
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Sporting vs

Porto
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Nacional vs

Farense
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Rio Ave vs

Arouca
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Gil Vicente vs

Braga
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Vit. Guimarães vs

Famalicão
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In the next round, we will understand this. Since we will have the big game Sporting vs Porto.

Yes, that is true. But about the club that is going to win, I just do not know which team is going to win the match. Sporting CP have the highest goals while FC Porto did always score in the first half and just have fun in the second round. I guess FC Porto is waiting for a time like this as an opportunity but it will not be an easy match for both clubs. I am expecting many goals in the match and most likely he might score.

We haven't seen a better performance than Porto last season. However, it seems that this season they have managed to solve the problems within the squad. Porto played well in the first three matches and won. Porto scored 7 goals in three matches and did not concede a single goal.

However, Porto's opponent is Sporting. This group is very strong. Especially the players in Sporting's forward lineup are in great form this season as well. Sporting won the first three matches. And the interesting thing is that the team scored 14 goals in three matches. So it is difficult to get 3 points in this match against Porto. Personally, I consider Sporting as the favorite in this match.

Of course the attack in my opinion is what decide the game most of the times. Porto can have a marvelous defense and not concede a single goal so far yet for me the fact that Sporting has scored 14 goals in three games means they are on fire no matter who their opponents were in these first three games. I must say that I am not noticing a better attack or midfield play from Porto compared to last year and in last season Sporting got the better out of them that is why I also think that Sporting should be the favorite in this game because of their great scoring stats in the first three games of the season. This game will also serve as a great index of the power of the teams and if Porto manages to win this it means that their defense is better than Sporting attack which I highly doubt it.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 26, 2024, 01:18:03 PM

In the next round, we will understand this. Since we will have the big game Sporting vs Porto.

Yes, that is true. But about the club that is going to win, I just do not know which team is going to win the match. Sporting CP have the highest goals while FC Porto did always score in the first half and just have fun in the second round. I guess FC Porto is waiting for a time like this as an opportunity but it will not be an easy match for both clubs. I am expecting many goals in the match and most likely he might score.

We haven't seen a better performance than Porto last season. However, it seems that this season they have managed to solve the problems within the squad. Porto played well in the first three matches and won. Porto scored 7 goals in three matches and did not concede a single goal.

However, Porto's opponent is Sporting. This group is very strong. Especially the players in Sporting's forward lineup are in great form this season as well. Sporting won the first three matches. And the interesting thing is that the team scored 14 goals in three matches. So it is difficult to get 3 points in this match against Porto. Personally, I consider Sporting as the favorite in this match.

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Quote from: joker_josue on August 26, 2024, 01:18:03 PM

In the next round, we will understand this. Since we will have the big game Sporting vs Porto.

Yes, that is true. But about the club that is going to win, I just do not know which team is going to win the match. Sporting CP have the highest goals while FC Porto did always score in the first half and just have fun in the second round. I guess FC Porto is waiting for a time like this as an opportunity but it will not be an easy match for both clubs. I am expecting many goals in the match and most likely he might score.

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