I think that everything should be made according to initial plans and distribution announce. This will make the best launch ever. I hate when rules are changing on the wing. I participated in early-birds investment round and I did foreseen all the risks associated with it, including the possible advantage of the second round investment.
+1 except I'm far away from foreseeing all risks associated with it 
Topic: [PoS+PoW] eXocoin [EXO]-gen 2.0- dev. from scratch! Give-Away | Open Beta - page 273. (Read 415634 times)
February 23, 2014, 12:24:15 PM
February 23, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
I agree with the idea to vote on this - the devs should come up with a few options they are happy with and then let the investors decide.
February 23, 2014, 12:14:53 PM
It would be interesting to put some options for voting, all the initial investors are paying, are entitled to vote. Could be a poll on the site, for those who invested to vote.
1 My suggestion is to take 5% of mail and increase to 20% for early investors. It would be fairer, 20,000,000 / ~ 180BTC = 111,111 exo
Other options:
2 Do not tamper with the mining and make just one more round of 15%
Or
3 Make just one more round of 25% maximum, taking maximum 10% of mining not to hinder the distribution.
I like options 1 and 2
1 My suggestion is to take 5% of mail and increase to 20% for early investors. It would be fairer, 20,000,000 / ~ 180BTC = 111,111 exo
Other options:
2 Do not tamper with the mining and make just one more round of 15%
Or
3 Make just one more round of 25% maximum, taking maximum 10% of mining not to hinder the distribution.
I like options 1 and 2
February 23, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
Regarding the whitepaper:
We can see some nice characteristics of the coin (and features of the client. not that important right now).
But it seems to me you want to make everybody happy. That makes me skeptic. Instead of having a "jack of all trades device" coin (eierlegende Wollmilchsau), I would prefer to have (mathematical) proofs of less features instead of the many assumptions, which appeared in this whitepaper.
If you can deliver, then everything is fine.
btw, why the need for a calculated eXocoin-network time? Didn't get that...
We can see some nice characteristics of the coin (and features of the client. not that important right now).
But it seems to me you want to make everybody happy. That makes me skeptic. Instead of having a "jack of all trades device" coin (eierlegende Wollmilchsau), I would prefer to have (mathematical) proofs of less features instead of the many assumptions, which appeared in this whitepaper.
If you can deliver, then everything is fine.
btw, why the need for a calculated eXocoin-network time? Didn't get that...
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The wider eXocoin spreads the higher is the chance that this project is going to be a success
Remember your words when changing the IPO. February 23, 2014, 12:07:22 PM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
+1Mining should definitely not be reduced if you want a fair coin. Otherwise, it's just NXT 2.0.
Completly agreed.Maybe you are right 。 But the eary-bird have a big risk and lower RIO。 I think the dev must protect their investor interests
February 23, 2014, 12:06:48 PM
I think that everything should be made according to initial plans and distribution announce. This will make the best launch ever. I hate when rules are changing on the wing. I participated in early-birds investment round and I did foreseen all the risks associated with it, including the possible advantage of the second round investment.
February 23, 2014, 12:03:41 PM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
+1Mining should definitely not be reduced if you want a fair coin. Otherwise, it's just NXT 2.0.
Completly agreed. 
February 23, 2014, 12:03:10 PM
Mining should definitely not be reduced if you want a fair coin. Otherwise, it's just NXT 2.0.
February 23, 2014, 11:59:16 AM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
I also agree that as time goes on, and if the coin becomes more feasible everyone will forget the massive amount of early bird-contributions that could have helped push this coin into existence.
With the production of this whitepaper the risk-level is dropping rapidly. Giving a much healthier environment to future investments. I think this is great as it will build the popularity of the coin. However if it was not for a massive early-adopter perk/bonus I would absolutely waited to buy coins at market. I'm not sure what is the most 'fair' but I think the massive amount of BTC put up before a whitepaper should be respected. I'm sure its got the dev's attention and I hope that the whole project takes on new life because of it.
eXocoin used NXT as an example of how not to distribute coins. To decrease mining and increase early bid is taking it one step closer to NXTs distribution model. Personally it would benefit me if we did exactly that, but a key point was to try a better and hopefully better distribution model.
Why make IPO for fair distribute. Why not make it 100% minable?
February 23, 2014, 11:55:11 AM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
I also agree that as time goes on, and if the coin becomes more feasible everyone will forget the massive amount of early bird-contributions that could have helped push this coin into existence.
With the production of this whitepaper the risk-level is dropping rapidly. Giving a much healthier environment to future investments. I think this is great as it will build the popularity of the coin. However if it was not for a massive early-adopter perk/bonus I would absolutely waited to buy coins at market. I'm not sure what is the most 'fair' but I think the massive amount of BTC put up before a whitepaper should be respected. I'm sure its got the dev's attention and I hope that the whole project takes on new life because of it.
eXocoin used NXT as an example of how not to distribute coins. To decrease mining and increase early bid is taking it one step closer to NXTs distribution model. Personally it would benefit me if we did exactly that, but a key point was to try a better and hopefully better distribution model.
I agree with you (as an early investor too), but we all seem to agree that we were so many to invest.
I'd say either leave the mining part untouched, or reduce it to 40% MINIMUM, forget about the third stage ipo, reduce the % given for the ones registering on the website, and redistribute it to the two IPOs, with a big preference for the first stage.
What do you guys think?
February 23, 2014, 11:48:10 AM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
I also agree that as time goes on, and if the coin becomes more feasible everyone will forget the massive amount of early bird-contributions that could have helped push this coin into existence.
With the production of this whitepaper the risk-level is dropping rapidly. Giving a much healthier environment to future investments. I think this is great as it will build the popularity of the coin. However if it was not for a massive early-adopter perk/bonus I would absolutely waited to buy coins at market. I'm not sure what is the most 'fair' but I think the massive amount of BTC put up before a whitepaper should be respected. I'm sure its got the dev's attention and I hope that the whole project takes on new life because of it.
eXocoin used NXT as an example of how not to distribute coins. To decrease mining and increase early bid is taking it one step closer to NXTs distribution model. Personally it would benefit me if we did exactly that, but a key point was to try a better and hopefully better distribution model.
February 23, 2014, 11:43:53 AM
This is without a doubt the best start for a new crypto in a long time. It is clear the devs are going to do their best to make this as fair and transparent as they possibly can, while involving the entire community in the process.
So far they have successfully managed to avoid the most common complaint of new cryptos, namely unfair IPO/launch/premine.
I love the green angle to the mining described in the whitepaper - once your work is done, there's no more need to waste power until the next block. Awesome!
I see really exciting things ahead... so glad I invested in this
Keep up the awesome work eXocoin!!
So far they have successfully managed to avoid the most common complaint of new cryptos, namely unfair IPO/launch/premine.
I love the green angle to the mining described in the whitepaper - once your work is done, there's no more need to waste power until the next block. Awesome!
I see really exciting things ahead... so glad I invested in this
Keep up the awesome work eXocoin!!
I feel a great potential too, it all seems pretty good, but I would recommend you to not get too excited, let's wait a bit and see.
Also, +1 for increasing a lot the initial IPO, we took an insane risk
Yes, it's true anything can happen, but at least this one doesn't seem doomed from the start!
February 23, 2014, 11:43:06 AM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
I also agree that as time goes on, and if the coin becomes more feasible everyone will forget the massive amount of early bird-contributions that could have helped push this coin into existence.
With the production of this whitepaper the risk-level is dropping rapidly. Giving a much healthier environment to future investments. I think this is great as it will build the popularity of the coin. However if it was not for a massive early-adopter perk/bonus I would absolutely waited to buy coins at market. I'm not sure what is the most 'fair' but I think the massive amount of BTC put up before a whitepaper should be respected. I'm sure its got the dev's attention and I hope that the whole project takes on new life because of it.
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February 23, 2014, 11:37:34 AM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
I also agree that as time goes on, and if the coin becomes more feasible everyone will forget the massive amount of early bird-contributions that could have helped push this coin into existence.
With the production of this whitepaper the risk-level is dropping rapidly. Giving a much healthier environment to future investments. I think this is great as it will build the popularity of the coin. However if it was not for a massive early-adopter perk/bonus I would absolutely waited to buy coins at market. I'm not sure what is the most 'fair' but I think the massive amount of BTC put up before a whitepaper should be respected. I'm sure its got the dev's attention and I hope that the whole project takes on new life because of it.
February 23, 2014, 11:36:24 AM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
+1 February 23, 2014, 11:35:47 AM
This is without a doubt the best start for a new crypto in a long time. It is clear the devs are going to do their best to make this as fair and transparent as they possibly can, while involving the entire community in the process.
So far they have successfully managed to avoid the most common complaint of new cryptos, namely unfair IPO/launch/premine.
I love the green angle to the mining described in the whitepaper - once your work is done, there's no more need to waste power until the next block. Awesome!
I see really exciting things ahead... so glad I invested in this
Keep up the awesome work eXocoin!!
So far they have successfully managed to avoid the most common complaint of new cryptos, namely unfair IPO/launch/premine.
I love the green angle to the mining described in the whitepaper - once your work is done, there's no more need to waste power until the next block. Awesome!
I see really exciting things ahead... so glad I invested in this
Keep up the awesome work eXocoin!!
I feel a great potential too, it all seems pretty good, but I would recommend you to not get too excited, let's wait a bit and see.
Also, +1 for increasing a lot the initial IPO, we took an insane risk
February 23, 2014, 11:32:17 AM
The "early bird" is incredibly diluted, eXo needs to combine second and third round at 10%. Early Bird should be at least 25%.
+1 February 23, 2014, 11:28:30 AM
This is without a doubt the best start for a new crypto in a long time. It is clear the devs are going to do their best to make this as fair and transparent as they possibly can, while involving the entire community in the process.
So far they have successfully managed to avoid the most common complaint of new cryptos, namely unfair IPO/launch/premine.
I love the green angle to the mining described in the whitepaper - once your work is done, there's no more need to waste power until the next block. Awesome!
I see really exciting things ahead... so glad I invested in this
Keep up the awesome work eXocoin!!
So far they have successfully managed to avoid the most common complaint of new cryptos, namely unfair IPO/launch/premine.
I love the green angle to the mining described in the whitepaper - once your work is done, there's no more need to waste power until the next block. Awesome!
I see really exciting things ahead... so glad I invested in this
Keep up the awesome work eXocoin!!
February 23, 2014, 11:28:18 AM
what do you guys think of the whitepaper?
Its 20 pages, I've read good portions and skimmed the rest. I'd say its a solid proposal for a interesting coin. But I'm easy to please because I'm not a coin developer so I don't know how feasible this all us. Though they claim to have working software already.
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