Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?
MaybeThis will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.
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This will also likely get deleted, one word comments are generally not tolerated.
Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?
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Well, if your comment had just one word 'great', it makes sense that it got deleted, doesn't it?
the rule that prohibits posting just one word
The way you keep repeating this seems to indicate that you will never accept any other explanation than the one you made up before starting this thread. There is no such rule. The list of rules is pinned at the top of this board, check it out: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
I see what you mean.
My post was moderated because of this:
" No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads."
Which has the following explanation:
"1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads."
I've also explained why I think it was not only not pointless but also important to post what I posted, in fact I also re-posted it again as you can see using the link in the OP.
If I keep repeating "just one word" it's to be more direct in expressing what I mean, maybe I have a wrong way to express myself.
What I truly keep repeating here is that if the rule doesn't let the normal people like me (that are not doing any harm, any paid signature campaign, any spamming, any bumping and so on) to comunicate comfortably it has to be changed or the people who apply the rule has to be more flexible.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe the rules are created by people for the people and if the rule is not perfect it can be improved and it's a good thing to discuss about.
About two years ago I complained with themos about the impossibility to login using Tor here and now I've discovered a solution was found to solve that issue.
I'm used to speak much more earlier about the issues so people are being aggressive towards me because they are not seeing any issue, but later on they realize there is an issue and change things.
Rarely my merit is being recognized though.
the rule that prohibits posting just one word
The way you keep repeating this seems to indicate that you will never accept any other explanation than the one you made up before starting this thread. There is no such rule. The list of rules is pinned at the top of this board, check it out: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657
Let me sum up what has been said so far in this thread. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
You had a one-word post ("great") deleted by the mods and you don't know why that happened. Several members stated that low-quality posts that don't improve the discussions are often deleted if reported. You then went on to state that you have had many of your posts deleted. In my opinion, you feel like you are being treated unfairly because many of your posts were deleted in the past.
One staff member took a look at your profile and determined that your claim of being "constantly moderated" doesn't hold water because you have only had 3 posts deleted, including the "great" post. You confirmed that to be true and went on to mention that a second account of yours has had 9 posts deleted in the last 2 years. 1 of those posts was another one-liner ("agreed"), and 7 posts were (in your own words) "similar to spam".
From those 9 posts that were deleted, you had 7 spam posts and 1 one-liner moderated. You never mentioned what the 9th post was about. Not counting the posts that were deleted for being one-liners and spam, there are 3 posts in total (on both of your accounts) that you haven't shown here that got deleted. Whether or not they were deleted unfairly can only be determined if we know what those posts are. From being constantly moderated and having many of your posts deleted, we are now down to 3 posts whose content and quality is not yet known.
Have I made any mistakes with the above post, or would you say it's a correct summary?
You had a one-word post ("great") deleted by the mods and you don't know why that happened. Several members stated that low-quality posts that don't improve the discussions are often deleted if reported. You then went on to state that you have had many of your posts deleted. In my opinion, you feel like you are being treated unfairly because many of your posts were deleted in the past.
One staff member took a look at your profile and determined that your claim of being "constantly moderated" doesn't hold water because you have only had 3 posts deleted, including the "great" post. You confirmed that to be true and went on to mention that a second account of yours has had 9 posts deleted in the last 2 years. 1 of those posts was another one-liner ("agreed"), and 7 posts were (in your own words) "similar to spam".
From those 9 posts that were deleted, you had 7 spam posts and 1 one-liner moderated. You never mentioned what the 9th post was about. Not counting the posts that were deleted for being one-liners and spam, there are 3 posts in total (on both of your accounts) that you haven't shown here that got deleted. Whether or not they were deleted unfairly can only be determined if we know what those posts are. From being constantly moderated and having many of your posts deleted, we are now down to 3 posts whose content and quality is not yet known.
Have I made any mistakes with the above post, or would you say it's a correct summary?
All you are summarising here is not relevant for the topic I've opened in this thread.
I think writing "Great!" to a community member in a thread that has not so many people following it adds much more value to the forum than insisting that the rule that prohibits posting just one word make sense and has to be executed religiously regardless any other thing.
Let me sum up what has been said so far in this thread. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
You had a one-word post ("great") deleted by the mods and you don't know why that happened. Several members stated that low-quality posts that don't improve the discussions are often deleted if reported. You then went on to state that you have had many of your posts deleted. In my opinion, you feel like you are being treated unfairly because many of your posts were deleted in the past.
One staff member took a look at your profile and determined that your claim of being "constantly moderated" doesn't hold water because you have only had 3 posts deleted, including the "great" post. You confirmed that to be true and went on to mention that a second account of yours has had 9 posts deleted in the last 2 years. 1 of those posts was another one-liner ("agreed"), and 7 posts were (in your own words) "similar to spam".
From those 9 posts that were deleted, you had 7 spam posts and 1 one-liner moderated. You never mentioned what the 9th post was about. Not counting the posts that were deleted for being one-liners and spam, there are 3 posts in total (on both of your accounts) that you haven't shown here that got deleted. Whether or not they were deleted unfairly can only be determined if we know what those posts are. From being constantly moderated and having many of your posts deleted, we are now down to 3 posts whose content and quality is not yet known.
Have I made any mistakes with the above post, or would you say it's a correct summary?
You had a one-word post ("great") deleted by the mods and you don't know why that happened. Several members stated that low-quality posts that don't improve the discussions are often deleted if reported. You then went on to state that you have had many of your posts deleted. In my opinion, you feel like you are being treated unfairly because many of your posts were deleted in the past.
One staff member took a look at your profile and determined that your claim of being "constantly moderated" doesn't hold water because you have only had 3 posts deleted, including the "great" post. You confirmed that to be true and went on to mention that a second account of yours has had 9 posts deleted in the last 2 years. 1 of those posts was another one-liner ("agreed"), and 7 posts were (in your own words) "similar to spam".
From those 9 posts that were deleted, you had 7 spam posts and 1 one-liner moderated. You never mentioned what the 9th post was about. Not counting the posts that were deleted for being one-liners and spam, there are 3 posts in total (on both of your accounts) that you haven't shown here that got deleted. Whether or not they were deleted unfairly can only be determined if we know what those posts are. From being constantly moderated and having many of your posts deleted, we are now down to 3 posts whose content and quality is not yet known.
Have I made any mistakes with the above post, or would you say it's a correct summary?
My experience with mods has had some pretty shitty moments. My mining thread is impossible to have any sort of discussion due to deletion of anyone who posts anything out of fear they're trying to inflate their post count. Additionally, I've had users outright disrupt honest projects with lies repeatedly for years, post personal information, make up events that never happened, etc. with next to no repercussions. Those in charge have even asked people to forgive users for harassing and breaking the rules here to troll me. I've also had for sale threads moved from their appropriate sections & countless on topic posts of mine deleted. I don't know if the mods are overworked, undermanaged, play favorites, or just don't care, but it seems like there are probably a lot of people on the internet who would love to have such a high paying job requiring such a low skill level and would probably do an honest job at it without rushing through and trying to handle reports without really looking into any of them.
Are you serious?
My issues are just nothing compared to what you are speaking about.
My experience with mods has had some pretty shitty moments. My mining thread is impossible to have any sort of discussion due to deletion of anyone who posts anything out of fear they're trying to inflate their post count. Additionally, I've had users outright disrupt honest projects with lies repeatedly for years, post personal information, make up events that never happened, etc. with next to no repercussions. Those in charge have even asked people to forgive users for harassing and breaking the rules here to troll me. I've also had for sale threads moved from their appropriate sections & countless on topic posts of mine deleted. I don't know if the mods are overworked, undermanaged, play favorites, or just don't care, but it seems like there are probably a lot of people on the internet who would love to have such a high paying job requiring such a low skill level and would probably do an honest job at it without rushing through and trying to handle reports without really looking into any of them.
If you have an alt-account whose posts are getting deleted, that's a completely different matter and an unrelated case to this one.
This thread is not about "Great!" post being deleted.Of course I can be lying about me being moderated with another nick, but I mentioned it because I was trying to understand why do I have an impression being constantly moderated while I have "only" 3 posts deleted so far.
The point of discussion here is the post "great" that got deleted, and everyone seems to agree that it was rightly so.
I'm quite used nobody agrees with my opinion.Edit:
I'm giving up replying to this thread, since people are beginning posting unrelated nonsenses that has nothing to do with what I was speaking about and also I can't reply the same thing ten times in row because nobody cares to read what I've already said.
Making money on your signatures is great, but I can't reply to any casual thing you post in "reply" to "me".
You are fighting to have a meaningful forum and are posting without even reading the others. And of course I should follow the absurd rule to not reply to people with one word.
I'll be posting here next time I'll be moderated if it happens, hope other people who feel bad about being moderated by people who don't really care about what's going in the thread they are moderating will post here as well.
Unfortunately this forum's rules are more and more set up in the way that it's impossible to communicate for the normal human beings. Thus fighting with the bots and people that are here for other reasons the moderators are pushing away people like me that has something to say.
The moderator who deleted your post did so within the rules, the single reply "Great" is an offtopic and does not add value to the thread and its consider spamming. Rules on posting became very strict since the Merit and Activity system was introduced to the forum to make sure shit posters don't go around accumulating Activity points doing nothing. If you wish to express your feelings through post make it a bit longer, maybe a 2 lines sentence cause most of the time 1 line post are considered off-topic or spam.You are a Sr. Member you should know Basic rules and how things work OP.
Well, that's the way things work here. That post wouldn't have been deleted in other forums, but usually too short posts that don't add anything meaningful are at risk of being reported and deleted.
In my case, I had some posts deleted after someone considered one of my posts low value and went through my post history on a reporting spree.
It has not happened again, I guess it is clear that I am a decent poster. Although I suppose I might get some post deleted in the future, as most people in the forum have.
In my case, I had some posts deleted after someone considered one of my posts low value and went through my post history on a reporting spree.
It has not happened again, I guess it is clear that I am a decent poster. Although I suppose I might get some post deleted in the future, as most people in the forum have.
I'm not sure the moderators have to interfere with the communication because of the length of the post, especially if they don't bother themselves to read all the rest of the conversation to see it was not just a casual comment.
I've personally got many of my posts moderated so far. Specifically I was doing a quality research creating a dedicated topic here and thus I was answering to the question of people in a very serious manner, dedicating hours and hours of work of research posting replies that later on were moderated for the reasons I don't know, which has made me stop working on the topic here and the forum has lost a lot of quality content.
However I'm not complaining, I'm just trying to create a tool for those like me that would like to know why they've been moderated.
I helped some fix an issue the thread was six or seven posts we got the issue fixed. so I post this
hello, i have just started to mine LTC with bitmain antminer L3 on viabtc.com
so i have told that i have to choose pps+ to get rewarded of doge, but on website it is written that i have to choose ppln..
i have a question if you are mining on viabtc what did you choose? thanks for answer
so i have told that i have to choose pps+ to get rewarded of doge, but on website it is written that i have to choose ppln..
i have a question if you are mining on viabtc what did you choose? thanks for answer
pps+
thanks
good luck as doge is amazing at the moment
As I helped the guy get squared away and was merely being civil.
mods deleted it. As being civil and encouraging new people seems to be frowned upon.
I have no signature for profit as I no longer believe in doing that. But that is simply the way of this forum it doe not care if you are polite or civil .
I looked at the modlog, and you only appear once. But the modlog only keeps info for a few weeks/months.
BPIP shows only 3 deleted posts.
BPIP shows only 3 deleted posts.
You are perfectly right.
I've got 3 posts deleted in about one year and a half with this account and 9 posts deleted in about two years with another account I had.
One of the above 3 posts was just "Great tool! Thank you" - which of course doesn't add anything to the content of this forum, since being rude or polite is the same here.
Another one is "Great!" we are discussing here.
The third one is not short and has some original thought in it, but the moderator hasn't probably understood it so he just deleted it, who knows maybe he was in a different mood and of course who cares how do the user feels about?
Among the mentioned 9 posts:
One is just "Agreed". Of course I can't agree with some consideration of the other user that is posting in my thread. It doesn't add any value if I agree and adjust my post accordingly. The most important thing is to keep moderators being robots here.
The other 7 were similar to spam as I was posting slightly modified text in different threads to inform people their coin were added to my list (which should've make them pleasure). But probably the moderator had better things to do than trying to understand whether my posts were bringing value here.
By bumping a thread as suggested above, it bumps the thread for many others who happen to be in that section.
I've already answered to this above. Bumping doesn't apply to coin announcements.So, my advice would be to send a personal message if you want to say something like "Great, let me know if you need any more help" or something along those lines.
I want people in community to be encouraged by my caring about the issues of one of the users to ask for more assistance.If I comunicate things privately it wouldn't make sense and I'd also appear rude to other users that are reading the thread.
It's as if I was asked "How are you" publicly and then would send an sms "Fine" because someone imposed me no-one-word rule.
This page might help you: https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.php
It allows you to bypass the captcha, and is quite handy when running into captcha issues when using Tor or any IP that has issues with the captcha service.
Nice suggestion, it was not available in those times at least when complained with themos I've got no answer. It allows you to bypass the captcha, and is quite handy when running into captcha issues when using Tor or any IP that has issues with the captcha service.
.... short replies like "thanks", "great", "good project sir" just bump the thread for hundreds of users, add it to watchlists, etc, and don't really carry any useful content.
I've already replied to this above, you are teaching me on how to bring useful content to the forum, right?
I'm expressing my opinion about the topic of your thread. You know, doing the thing this forum is for. If I wasn't sufficiently clear with my post: I think that by deleting 3 of your posts or even my invaluable "no" post, moderators are not going to impede the next Goethe or Nakamoto rising to their greatness.
Since some campaigns don't have character minimums, if mods didn't delete such short posts as the one you mentioned, everyone in a sig campaign that didn't count characters would be posting "Nice!" or "+1" a hundred times per day.
I think that all reputable bitcoin campaigns have a 100-200 minimum character requirement for posts. I can't remember seeing one in the previous years without such requirements. When it comes to altcoin campaigns, I really wouldn't know. I have another nick though I was doing an important work with, in fact it was receiving a lot of merits and people still wondering there why I'm not going on with that thread and I specifically stopped to posting there because of moderation (the posts that required hours and hours of research from my side were being deleted because someone was not happy to read the truth about how they crypto was launched, of course I was polite as ever publishing the info) and because it has become almost impossible to login using TOR (which of course is another matter).
If you have an alt-account whose posts are getting deleted, that's a completely different matter and an unrelated case to this one. The point of discussion here is the post "great" that got deleted, and everyone seems to agree that it was rightly so.No one can comment on the deleted posts from your alt account because we haven't seen them, we don't know where they were posted, and so no one can comment on the possible reasons of deletion. Even though you say that your posts were truthful, that doesn't make them on-topic and relevant to the discussion, and can cause them to be deleted. You might have also posted your posts in self-moderated threads and had them deleted by the thread starters and not the mods.
As an example:
If there is a thread that discusses a recent cooperation between two altcoin projects and the implications the deal can have for the value of the coins, a truthful post from your side how altcoin project A is a scam for reasons A, B, and C, can be seen as off-topic and be deleted.
The better option for you would be to start your own thread in the Scam Accusation or Reputation board and explain why you think the project is fraudulent. That would then be a potentially valuable and on-topic discussion.
"Great!" - can be just "the general chit chat" for someone who is "not a big fan of small talk", but when he is on the Communities service his personal preferences shouldn't matter that much.
Well, I might not be a big fan of small talk, or like the idea of general chit chat, but I wouldn't be enforcing the rules based on my personal opinion on it. It would be removed for being low quality or if it was concerning posts about general chit chat it would likely be removed for being off topic. for me it's just normal to be polite with people, of course I could've dropped the discussion without answering anything, but I feel I'd be rude in that context if I wouldn't answer anything to that person. It's like if someone asks me "How are you?" and I keep silent because the rule imposes me to not use just one word "Fine".
I agree that being polite is a good quality. Although, these sort of things can be done in personal messages if you really want to let them know you've seen the message or whatever. By bumping a thread as suggested above, it bumps the thread for many others who happen to be in that section. Not only that, sometimes users like to read the entire thread, which if these sort of posts were allowed they would quickly congest threads. So, my advice would be to send a personal message if you want to say something like "Great, let me know if you need any more help" or something along those lines.
because it has become almost impossible to login using TOR (which of course is another matter).
This page might help you: https://bitcointalk.org/captcha_code.phpIt allows you to bypass the captcha, and is quite handy when running into captcha issues when using Tor or any IP that has issues with the captcha service.
.... short replies like "thanks", "great", "good project sir" just bump the thread for hundreds of users, add it to watchlists, etc, and don't really carry any useful content.
I've already replied to this above, you are teaching me on how to bring useful content to the forum, right?
I think if the rule is equal for all just make in the way I can't post one word, if the moderator is there to contribute as a human being he has to understand the context before automatically applying the rule. If not he is just another bot here.
The problem is not the number of words, it's about what it brings to the forum. And regardless of how you personally feel about it, the answer in most cases is that short replies like "thanks", "great", "good project sir" just bump the thread for hundreds of users, add it to watchlists, etc, and don't really carry any useful content. There are different environments for chatting, like Discord or Telegram, where garbage just scrolls off the screen and no one ever reads it again. This forum is not like that, or at least we're trying to make it not like that, despite the best efforts of millennials to twitterize it.
I think that if there is rule that one word can't be posted the thing can be automated, there is no need to have moderators for that.
If there are moderators to look into it they should act as human beings, not as robots blindly applying the rules.
"Great!" - can be just "the general chit chat" for someone who is "not a big fan of small talk", but when he is on the Communities service his personal preferences shouldn't matter that much.
The Goethe's tragedy Faust (in case someone knows what's I'm speaking about) finishes with just one word "Saved!" and that word make the tragedy a great masterpiece without which it wouldn't probably be that.
The Bitcoin code finishes also with just on word, but without that word it wouldn't be usable either.
It was days we were trying to find a solution of an issue and I specifically asked the person we were trying to help whether he has solved. Once he's answered in a relatively positive way I answered him "Great!" because it was a logical conclusion of the discussion we were doing, for me it's just normal to be polite with people, of course I could've dropped the discussion without answering anything, but I feel I'd be rude in that context if I wouldn't answer anything to that person. It's like if someone asks me "How are you?" and I keep silent because the rule imposes me to not use just one word "Fine".
I think if the rule is equal for all just make in the way I can't post one word, if the moderator is there to contribute as a human being he has to understand the context before automatically applying the rule. If not he is just another bot here.
I'm being constantly moderated here though, not because of short replies or rude posts or anything specific, just for no reason. At least it's how I feel it.
If there are moderators to look into it they should act as human beings, not as robots blindly applying the rules.
"Great!" - can be just "the general chit chat" for someone who is "not a big fan of small talk", but when he is on the Communities service his personal preferences shouldn't matter that much.
The Goethe's tragedy Faust (in case someone knows what's I'm speaking about) finishes with just one word "Saved!" and that word make the tragedy a great masterpiece without which it wouldn't probably be that.
The Bitcoin code finishes also with just on word, but without that word it wouldn't be usable either.
It was days we were trying to find a solution of an issue and I specifically asked the person we were trying to help whether he has solved. Once he's answered in a relatively positive way I answered him "Great!" because it was a logical conclusion of the discussion we were doing, for me it's just normal to be polite with people, of course I could've dropped the discussion without answering anything, but I feel I'd be rude in that context if I wouldn't answer anything to that person. It's like if someone asks me "How are you?" and I keep silent because the rule imposes me to not use just one word "Fine".
I think if the rule is equal for all just make in the way I can't post one word, if the moderator is there to contribute as a human being he has to understand the context before automatically applying the rule. If not he is just another bot here.
I'm being constantly moderated here though, not because of short replies or rude posts or anything specific, just for no reason. At least it's how I feel it.
Imagine your months-old post still getting deleted from time to time. It really leaves me feeling down
And there was a time I got banned without realizing what I did wrong (reason was generic) only to find out weeks later that it was a thread I posted that was "flagged" for reflink spamming.
I'm being constantly moderated here though, not because of short replies or rude posts or anything specific, just for no reason. At least it's how I feel it.
What is your definition of "constantly moderated" ?
I looked at the modlog, and you only appear once. But the modlog only keeps info for a few weeks/months.
BPIP shows only 3 deleted posts.
I had time to waste and went to check your posts scrapped by LoyceV: https://loyce.club/archive/members/6/63838.html. I checked the last 100 posts (from November 2020 to today) and saw that 3 posts were deleted. They are numbers 231, 233 and 290.
But you are an old member from 2012, maybe you are talking about old deleted posts ? But since scrappers have been around (~2018-2019?), you can't really say that you are "constantly moderated". No ?
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