Topic: Post your experience of being moderated here (Read 542 times)

I suggest you work on your own posts, because if you've already been banned and have had posts deleted, you're probably a garbage shitposter who's here for all the wrong reasons.  If English is a problem for you (which it seems like it is), I'd also suggest checking out whatever local board is most appropriate for you.  What you wrote had very poor grammar and sentence structure, and in addition it was repetitive.

No wonder you haven't earned any merits yet. 

My experience of being moderated are numerous but among few is being substantially ban for a week and also how my post were deleted severally. Though I almost stop participating in the forum chat but I have to summon courage and continue. I learnt to improve myself when ever I got moderate. I knew everyone here has an experience but however being moderated is not option to quit forum but an option to support forum through quality post. I suggest we all should improve the quality post, only then our post will be free from being moderated.

I have got moderated once though i got to know there scenario that makes post deleted. Such of kind may be plagiarism, assaulted post and may be unnecessary complement.

Thank you for your explanation. Consider I'm losing my hours too here right now because of just one word. So maybe it somehow important to me.

Wouldn't it make sense to automate the moderation process a bit?

I think it will take like less than 10 minutes of your time to create a query to see which are the users that post across the different threads short sentences of just one-two words and to focus the moderators attention just on them.
If there are people like me that usually stay on the same thread and yes, maybe I'm sinning with some short sentence, but maybe it can save you a lot of time letting me doing that if it's not that frequent?

If I produce usually let say 4000 characters posts and sometimes there are 1-2 words posts it's not a big deal after all, chances are I'm doing that in context of normal human communication.

Don't know whether it can make sense.

You must also understand that no moderator is in your head. If behind your "Great" we must understand "Great, this two-weeks problem is finally solved, I was happy to help you", you're not helping the moderation much.
In a perfect world, the moderator could have taken 10 minutes of his time to go back over the conversation and try to understand the context of that "Great" a little better.

Let's do some simple maths. And I give you a little secret, on average since July 2016, there are 16 405 reports per month across all Bitcointalk.
The Altcoins section is probably the section where there are the most reports (but I don't have the exact numbers), let's say 15% of reports come from the Altcoins section (Discussions, Ann, etc...).
4 moderators can act on these sections : Welsh, Mprep, Hilariousandco and Mr Big. There are also patrollers (for newbies) and admins who can moderate, but let's ignore them to simplify the calculations.

16405 *15% = 2460 reports in the Altcoins section
2460 / 4 mods = 615 reports per mod (For the record, if I have 20-30 reports a month in the french section to handle, it's a big month for me)
615 * 10min = 6150 min
6150 min / 60 = 102 hours
102h / 24h = 4.25 days

So these 4 mods should spend more than 4 full days per month (sometimes more, sometimes less) just for the Altcoins section. Knowing that the GMs handle other sections, and there are surely reports that take much more time to analyse. And unless I'm mistaken, but being a moderator on Bitcointalk is not a full time job, and we have a job, a life too.

So yes, in your case, the naughty mod had a report on your "Great" and after a few seconds of consideration, he only saw Great = 0 value, so he deleted it. But why a mod should take his time to decipher a "Great", when you didn't take the time to recontextualize your post, to provide a little substance to your post ? Your time is more precious than the time of the mod ? 

When i started reporting there was a lot of threads and posts like " great " and "very nice"
I havnt reported one your posts or in your thread , ages ago mostly it was some kind of bots and Accounts that pumping a thread with that.
Maybe just spread out your posting on that and i guess you will find the words for write back to the Users you help.
Personal i have not maked a bad experience of being moderated.

Maybe you are right. However many things have worked well for years and then was changed into something better.

I knew you'd tell it.

I agree with your opinion and you can do as you wish, but your opinion is forced on me through absurd rules (or even worse, its interpretations), so I can't do as I wish, that's the issue.

I have to be afraid to communicate normally because someone has decided it's better another way around. That's not cool, IMO.

The rules have worked fine "for the people" for years. Stop making a mountain out of a molehill.


If works perfectly fine without "end if" in python or in C-style single-statement form and it works perfectly fine without the fluffy-cuddly chatter on this forum. We don't need to start all threads with single-word "Hi" post, or end them with "thanks" or "best regards" posts.

Interesting insight.

The real solution is to create the rules that works for the people, not to create a subset that accepts absurd rules.

The construction [if]... [then]...[else]..[end if] make sense in the same manner as "Thank you"-"Np" construction in the human communication.
The construction "Thank you" - [?] doesn't make sense in the same manner as [if]...[then]...[else]...[nothing here even if it should be]. It just doesn't work.

The moderator has to do his work well distinguishing where is the spam and where is the natural human communication if he fails doing so he is just another meaningless bot, which is what we are supposed to be fighting with those rules.

The other way of thinking here is that I have to learn moderators moods (because I'm asked to comply with their interpretation not with the rule itself) and if I wasn't able to it's my fault.

I think you're falling for the OP's fallacy that only word count matters. If you just add fluff like your example - it would still be a low value post. It might be less likely to be reported or otherwise noticed by mods, and that's how many spammers are able to skate by, but that doesn't make it right. Adding substance to the post, i.e. explaining why the answer is "no", or why someone/something is "great", in a manner that is useful to other users - that might make it better. But the real solution is to not make such posts.

The other part of that fallacy is that "thanks" or "great" or whatever makes someone polite, and lack of such one-word replies makes someone rude... no, it doesn't. There is no such expectation here. Unfortunately this texting/chatting nonsense is infiltrating everything - from business e-mails to discussion forums and it will inevitably kill this site too. But until then why don't we stop looking at those deleted posts as some sort of crime and take it as a learning opportunity.

So this means that the responsibilities also lies with the ones who reports them only to get their number of correct reports count increase.
So many people have so many different motives here.

Both of those things happen. If you report a post, it will go on the to do list of the responsible staff member who then has to take action. Depending on what it it is, the post can get deleted, merged with a previous one, or left the way it is if the mod is unsure.

Welsh said himself that he doesn't just sit around and wait for other members to report something. He browses the sections he is responsible for and deleted whatever he feels breaks the rules: 

They don't see them. Or someone reports or they do some causal research deleting what they just don't like.

And apparently nobody checks what they are deleting and why.

At least that's what I've got from this conversation.