Topic: Power Company Tip Leads to Bitcoin Mining Raid - page 2. (Read 8415 times)
Typical law-enforcement agencies...
Wow, are those guys federal police? They've all got assault rifles out like they're going to war or something?! God that's fucking scary. I'm glad I don't live in Virginia where apparantly the military is called in for marijuana suspicions!
I wish they'd lock all those mariwane druggies up and throw away the keys. I don't know why they can't just drink whiskey like the rest of us. Whiskey never causes all the problems those druggie perverts have. I don't know why they didn't just shoot em' while they had the chance! They brought enough guns to solve the problem. Shoot their friggin kids too. They'll just grow up to live on welfare and take drugs anyway. Now the rest of us GOD fearin', church goin' folks are gonna have to pay to keep that worthless pervert locked up. They should just ship em' all to the state o' Mariurado so we don't have to pay for em'.
This sounds like a joke but I know people that think this way. One of them is a true drunken wife beater that is actually brave enough to show up at church on Sunday morning escorting a wife with a black eye.
This sounds like a joke but I know people that think this way. One of them is a true drunken wife beater that is actually brave enough to show up at church on Sunday morning escorting a wife with a black eye.
I feel that way for crimes against children, violent crimes, or crimes committed with weapons of any kind if stated in an intelligent manner minus the "Skydaddy" addition.
Back on topic, you don't get much dumber than having been previously been busted for a grow operation knowing damn well your heat signature from an airborne thermal cam can be seen from 3000 meters as well as you electricity usage screaming you're at it again, even if it is something benign. Even dumber was having MJ present under those circumstances period.
This guy was stupid.
Stupidity cost him.
~BCX~
I think raiding the house with a large armed tactical squad wielding assault rifles may be over doing it a bit. That looks like the ground troops that were used on the raid of Osama bin Laden's compound. If they were afraid to knock on the door they should have just used a Pyros small tactical munition fired from a sentinel drone.
Pictures are not from this "arrest".
http://dailysurge.com/2014/05/fed-court-finds-search-seizure-guns-ok-without-warrant-evidence-crime/
http://chriswick.ca/jacksonville-police-staging-operation-operation-ceasefire/
Also , is there any other news source for this ?
Wow, are those guys federal police? They've all got assault rifles out like they're going to war or something?! God that's fucking scary. I'm glad I don't live in Virginia where apparantly the military is called in for marijuana suspicions!
Which picture are you're talking about? None of the ones posted on this thread so far was from the actual raid.Though I agree that the second picture reminds me of some sci-fi dystopian storm trooper getup.
I think it's close minded to think "excess" usage is automatically a grow op.
If the person had a record of growing marijuana before it's pretty natural to jump to that conclusion, regardless of how correct that assumption is.it's kinda like how excons got put into suspect list when related crimes occurred in the vicinity.
A person could be doing one of several things easily. all consisting of working out of their home.
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers
hah
obviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers
hahobviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
I think "excessive " would mean having a electricity usage far higher than normal(maybe magnitudes higher than thy's neighbours).I agree any of the activity listed would trigger that alert.I'm willing to bet that even if his excessive usage were due to the other activities listed he would still be raided based on his previously record .Especially if he kept those "hobbies" outside superficial scrutiny.
THerefore there wasn't probable cause that he was growing because he had possesion before.
If they caught him growing before ok but they didn't.
And really sherlock no shit "excessive" is more than "normal". Even I knew that.
Done arguing, go work for the prosecutors office they love guys like you.
Wow, are those guys federal police? They've all got assault rifles out like they're going to war or something?! God that's fucking scary. I'm glad I don't live in Virginia where apparantly the military is called in for marijuana suspicions!
Plenty of people get charged and convicted and clean their life up to. I know a few people that's been down both sides of the road, good and bad.
I think it's close minded to think "excess" usage is automatically a grow op.
If the person had a record of growing marijuana before it's pretty natural to jump to that conclusion, regardless of how correct that assumption is.it's kinda like how excons got put into suspect list when related crimes occurred in the vicinity.
A person could be doing one of several things easily. all consisting of working out of their home.
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers hah
obviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers
hahobviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
I think "excessive " would mean having a electricity usage far higher than normal(maybe magnitudes higher than thy's neighbours).I agree any of the activity listed would trigger that alert.I'm willing to bet that even if his excessive usage were due to the other activities listed he would still be raided based on his previously record .Especially if he kept those "hobbies" outside superficial scrutiny.
THerefore there wasn't probable cause that he was growing because he had possesion before.
If they caught him growing before ok but they didn't.
And really sherlock no shit "excessive" is more than "normal". Even I knew that.
Done arguing, go work for the prosecutors office they love guys like you.
I think it's close minded to think "excess" usage is automatically a grow op.
If the person had a record of growing marijuana before it's pretty natural to jump to that conclusion, regardless of how correct that assumption is.it's kinda like how excons got put into suspect list when related crimes occurred in the vicinity.
A person could be doing one of several things easily. all consisting of working out of their home.
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers hah
obviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers
hahobviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
I think "excessive " would mean having a electricity usage far higher than normal(maybe magnitudes higher than thy's neighbours).I agree any of the activity listed would trigger that alert.I'm willing to bet that even if his excessive usage were due to the other activities listed he would still be raided based on his previously record .Especially if he kept those "hobbies" outside superficial scrutiny.
THerefore there wasn't probable cause that he was growing because he had possesion before.
If they caught him growing before ok but they didn't.
And really sherlock no shit "excessive" is more than "normal". Even I knew that.
Little by little we are losing our personal freedoms every day. This is utterly ridiculous. Pretty soon governments will be watching everything through their TVs (if they aren't already doing that now)...
HIDE THE BUTTERFLY LABS MACHINES!!!!!!!! 
He wasn't busted for growing but for possession of a 1/2 pound which is a big difference.
THerefore there wasn't probable cause that he was growing because he had possesion before.
It's not uncommon for previous criminal to "progress" onto the a higher tier of action once they grew in confidence/experience(pretty much how most serious offenders evolve/devolve) .Its is still logical to assume that someone with a criminal record of possesing marijuana would want to attempt growing them as a next step and the sudden unexplainable rise in power usage could be indicative of that.
Charged with marijuana possession, and yet they confiscate everything bitcoin related.
As somebody already stated:it's not uncommon to law enforcement to seize the asset(cash, gold,gambling chips etc) that they suspected were involved with illegal activities and thing that may contain incriminating data/evidence like computers( it's easy to see how the mining rig comes to play).
This story isn't about a bitcoin mining bust and it never was.The OP should really change the title to be not so misleading.
I think it's close minded to think "excess" usage is automatically a grow op.
If the person had a record of growing marijuana before it's pretty natural to jump to that conclusion, regardless of how correct that assumption is.it's kinda like how excons got put into suspect list when related crimes occurred in the vicinity.
A person could be doing one of several things easily. all consisting of working out of their home.
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers hah
obviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
Even doing some of these things for a hobby would make a meter spin hard.
a good compressor will eat up electric (woodshop, autobody, mechanic etc etc)
a kiln will eat up electric (ceramics / glass making)
electric water heaters are notorious (chandlers and I have no idea what else) a lot of hot showers
hahobviously a bitcoin datacenter
someone could even have a real garden as well. (not the kind in the topic)
It would help to know what they consider "normal" or "excessive"
I think "excessive " would mean having a electricity usage far higher than normal(maybe magnitudes higher than thy's neighbours).I agree any of the activity listed would trigger that alert.I'm willing to bet that even if his excessive usage were due to the other activities listed he would still be raided based on his previously record .Especially if he kept those "hobbies" outside superficial scrutiny.
THerefore there wasn't probable cause that he was growing because he had possesion before.
If they caught him growing before ok but they didn't.
And really sherlock no shit "excessive" is more than "normal". Even I knew that.
Charged with marijuana possession, and yet they confiscate everything bitcoin related.
I'm really interested if he'll get that stuff back.
I'm waiting for the day when a large miner with no criminal history gets raided like this based purely on an "electric tip" and they literally find nothing wrong/illegal but someone ends up getting shot.
Charged with marijuana possession, and yet they confiscate everything bitcoin related.
Unless you already had a criminal record the police had no interest in you.
Or have no criminal record and have a hobby gardening too..
The article makes it sound like the guy was arrested because of bitcoin mining.
Which is not true
To be honest I was really surprised that this didn't happen to me in my peak of mining. The household electricity bill went up literally 20x, and sat at that rate for about 6 months.
Unless you already had a criminal record the police had no interest in you.
In my case I even had to phone the electricity company to change my plan and told them straight how much I'm going to consume per month.
To be honest I was really surprised that this didn't happen to me in my peak of mining. The household electricity bill went up literally 20x, and sat at that rate for about 6 months.
So why were the miners seized then? if this situation revolved solely around marijuana, and past marijuana offenses got him here, and the warrant was specifically for drugs and more specifically marijuana what purpose was there to confiscate anything having to do with bitcoins, mining equipment, and what they referred to as "Physical" bitcoins.
I don't know about the law there so I can only speculate:
1)Mining equipment:suspicious looking, unknown machinery (I doubt this cops would recognise a mining rig beforehand) that may be relevant to the illegal activity.Possibly they thought it was contained some data(if they mistaken it for some server/computer) on contacts.
2)Physical bitcoin: it it even looked like casascius coin it could be mistaken for token/chips that hold monetary value used in the illegal transaction, akin to how authorities seizes drug money and assets.
The article makes it sound like the guy was arrested because of bitcoin mining.
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