Power Company Tip Leads to Bitcoin Mining Raid - page 5.

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on September 15, 2014, 09:46:24 AM

I wish they'd lock all those mariwane druggies up and throw away the keys. I don't know why they can't just drink whiskey like the rest of us. Whiskey never causes all the problems those druggie perverts have. I don't know why they didn't just shoot em' while they had the chance! They brought enough guns to solve the problem. Shoot their friggin kids too. They'll just grow up to live on welfare and take drugs anyway. Now the rest of us GOD fearin', church goin' folks are gonna have to pay to keep that worthless pervert locked up. They should just ship em' all to the state o' Mariurado so we don't have to pay for em'.

This sounds like a joke but I know people that think this way. One of them is a true drunken wife beater that is actually brave enough to show up at church on Sunday morning escorting a wife with a black eye.

I feel that way for crimes against children, violent crimes, or crimes committed with weapons of any kind if stated in an intelligent manner minus the "Skydaddy" addition.

Back on topic, you don't get much dumber than having been previously been busted for a grow operation knowing damn well your heat signature from an airborne thermal cam can be seen from 3000 meters as well as you electricity usage screaming you're at it again, even if it is something benign. Even dumber was having MJ present under those circumstances period.

This guy was stupid.

Stupidity cost him.

~BCX~

I think raiding the house with a large armed tactical squad wielding assault rifles may be over doing it a bit. That looks like the ground troops that were used on the raid of Osama bin Laden's compound. If they were afraid to knock on the door they should have just used a Pyros small tactical munition fired from a sentinel drone.

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Well, the marijuana farms can easily hide their operation, by faking a BTC mining operation.

What do they say... If there is smoke, there might be a fire.

A while back, it was more profitable to mine BTC than to grow marijuana. Grin

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Well you haven't seen shit. Now you are at risk even if you try to buy some BTC physically off LocalBitcoins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYM9denOmSk

Imagine you try to buy some BTC and then the police kills you from a heart attack. Just lol.

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I wish they'd lock all those mariwane druggies up and throw away the keys. I don't know why they can't just drink whiskey like the rest of us. Whiskey never causes all the problems those druggie perverts have. I don't know why they didn't just shoot em' while they had the chance! They brought enough guns to solve the problem. Shoot their friggin kids too. They'll just grow up to live on welfare and take drugs anyway. Now the rest of us GOD fearin', church goin' folks are gonna have to pay to keep that worthless pervert locked up. They should just ship em' all to the state o' Mariurado so we don't have to pay for em'.

This sounds like a joke but I know people that think this way. One of them is a true drunken wife beater that is actually brave enough to show up at church on Sunday morning escorting a wife with a black eye.

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Again, if anyone will simply Google this guy and/or read the previous link I posted you will see his house was raided because he was using eight times the normal upper limits of residence that size *** AND *** had previous convictions for operating a grow house.

The BTC mining equipment was incidental and *** WAS NOT *** the reason his house was raided as so many who are not reading the whole thread seem to think.

Actually this guy deserves a lot of crap because the last thing Bitcoin needs is an association between illegal drug cultivation and bitcoin. Also again, it doesn't matter what your personal opinions are about MJ, it is still very much illegal in Virginia.

This guy knowingly committed a felony and paid the price.

I don't have an issue with the raid.

~BCX~

~ this is clearly the end of safe bitcoin mining !!! VIVA THE REVOLUTION !!! BWAAAHAHAHAHA Cheesy

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Quote from: wasserman99 on September 14, 2014, 01:53:45 PM

Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 11:27:41 AM

Quote from: ruthless09 on September 14, 2014, 03:21:58 AM

Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

You need to remember the police did not simply break into the person's house. They came with a warrant. There is a huge difference between the two. A search warrant is given by a neutral judge who can see that there is probable cause that a crime has been committed.

I know all to well how a raid works, no need to explain. I may have jumped the gun a little bit(pun intended). My issue is police many times have raided a persons home that has done no crime based on a bad tip. People have gotten killed because of the poorly planned raids. For me that is a problem I don't know why people can accept that kind of action, What would everyone say if they guy got shot dead? You need to put yourself in the position of the cops and the miner. The cops could have easily spent time watching the house for obvious activity of marijuana growing but they didn't.

In order for the police to be able to present information from a "tip" the person giving the tip needs to be known to the police (they need to know their identity) and the person needs to be credible.

I am not 100% sure what exactly would be visible from the street when someone is growing drugs from inside a house, but I would think it would be very little if anything at all. I would think that the drug growers could easily do everything they needed to do behind closed doors, and just because they are growing drugs at the house does not mean they would be selling drugs out of the house.

The judge also disagreed that the police should have watched for more evidence as he signed the search warrant.

Use one of those :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2461412/Police-helicopter-s-thermal-imaging-camera-detected-home-cannabis-factory-heat-coming-lamps-grow-drugs-look-like-flat-GLOWING.html

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Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 11:27:41 AM

Quote from: ruthless09 on September 14, 2014, 03:21:58 AM

Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

You need to remember the police did not simply break into the person's house. They came with a warrant. There is a huge difference between the two. A search warrant is given by a neutral judge who can see that there is probable cause that a crime has been committed.

I know all to well how a raid works, no need to explain. I may have jumped the gun a little bit(pun intended). My issue is police many times have raided a persons home that has done no crime based on a bad tip. People have gotten killed because of the poorly planned raids. For me that is a problem I don't know why people can accept that kind of action, What would everyone say if they guy got shot dead? You need to put yourself in the position of the cops and the miner. The cops could have easily spent time watching the house for obvious activity of marijuana growing but they didn't.

In order for the police to be able to present information from a "tip" the person giving the tip needs to be known to the police (they need to know their identity) and the person needs to be credible.

I am not 100% sure what exactly would be visible from the street when someone is growing drugs from inside a house, but I would think it would be very little if anything at all. I would think that the drug growers could easily do everything they needed to do behind closed doors, and just because they are growing drugs at the house does not mean they would be selling drugs out of the house.

The judge also disagreed that the police should have watched for more evidence as he signed the search warrant.

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on September 14, 2014, 01:07:58 AM

http://billmoyers.com/2013/12/16/land-of-the-free-us-has-5-of-the-worlds-population-and-25-of-its-prisoners/

Yep, and 80% of them are black. It's Jim Crow 2.0

We can end the war on drugs with compassion.

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Quote from: niothor on September 14, 2014, 04:14:08 AM

Quote from: TheButterZone on September 14, 2014, 04:10:07 AM

Growing marijuana is a victimless crime, car theft is not.

Growing marijuana is illegal (there). Speeding is illegal.
None of the above is creating victims till something goes wrong.

The only way for growing marijuana to go wrong (to have victims) is for it to have civil rights violations inflicted upon the grower, their baby, and/or their non-aggressive dog.

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Quote from: ruthless09 on September 14, 2014, 03:21:58 AM

Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

You need to remember the police did not simply break into the person's house. They came with a warrant. There is a huge difference between the two. A search warrant is given by a neutral judge who can see that there is probable cause that a crime has been committed.

I know all to well how a raid works, no need to explain. I may have jumped the gun a little bit(pun intended). My issue is police many times have raided a persons home that has done no crime based on a bad tip. People have gotten killed because of the poorly planned raids. For me that is a problem I don't know why people can accept that kind of action, What would everyone say if they guy got shot dead? You need to put yourself in the position of the cops and the miner. The cops could have easily spent time watching the house for obvious activity of marijuana growing but they didn't.

Quote from: seriouscoin on September 14, 2014, 09:50:51 AM

Quote from: yatsey87 on September 14, 2014, 06:04:37 AM

Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

I agree they should've collected more evidence before going in, because is a large electricity bill really proof of guilt of anything? In this case, obviously it wasnt.

Some of you need to move out of your mamma's basement.

Having a search warrant doesnt require a "proof of guilt" but only probable cause.

What a bunch of idiots.

Whatever the home owner did, he must have a record for a probable cause.

And all people who have their house raided have a criminal history? No, the reality is these raids are to often used instead of good old fashion police work before hand. News flash sending swat into a home is dangerous and should only happen as a last resort option. If their was a grow op in there the size they were looking for they would have had enough time to investigate and gather evidence, grow up and use your brain.

So if I don't like how the raid was handled I live in my moms basement and I'm an idiot? No shit Sherlock tell me more. Going by that logic I'd say you never stopped breast feeding and that is why your so cranky.

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Quote from: TrailingComet on September 14, 2014, 10:49:43 AM

What a low, scummy douchebag act!
You don't betray people to the authorities like that, it's like fucking East germany

It's not uncommon for electric companies to tip of the police about any suspicious usage.

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Quote from: seriouscoin on September 14, 2014, 09:50:51 AM

Quote from: yatsey87 on September 14, 2014, 06:04:37 AM

Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

I agree they should've collected more evidence before going in, because is a large electricity bill really proof of guilt of anything? In this case, obviously it wasnt.

Some of you need to move out of your mamma's basement.

Having a search warrant doesnt require a "proof of guilt" but only probable cause.

What a bunch of idiots.

Whatever the home owner did, he must have a record for a probable cause.

Before that he should have not any drugs in his house and not have been involved in MJ in the past.
He is not the innocent guy and stop blaming the cops.

They come in with a mandate , they fund the drugs they arrested the guy.

It's the same when a cops pulls you over for speeding and finds drugs in your car.
Bitcoin is irrelevant.

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What a low, scummy douchebag act!
You don't betray people to the authorities like that, it's like fucking East germany

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Quote from: yatsey87 on September 14, 2014, 06:04:37 AM

Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

I agree they should've collected more evidence before going in, because is a large electricity bill really proof of guilt of anything? In this case, obviously it wasnt.

Some of you need to move out of your mamma's basement.

Having a search warrant doesnt require a "proof of guilt" but only probable cause.

What a bunch of idiots.

Whatever the home owner did, he must have a record for a probable cause.

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Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

I agree they should've collected more evidence before going in, because is a large electricity bill really proof of guilt of anything? In this case, obviously it wasnt.

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Quote from: TheButterZone on September 14, 2014, 04:10:07 AM

Growing marijuana is a victimless crime, car theft is not.

Growing marijuana is illegal (there). Speeding is illegal.
None of the above is creating victims till something goes wrong.

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Growing marijuana is a victimless crime, car theft is not.

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Quote from: counter on September 14, 2014, 02:47:35 AM

I'd be so pissed if they broke into my house with loaded weapons simply because the electric company gave them a "tip". Those rat bastards got their money for the bill but then ratted him out. It isn't their job to report electricity use to the police, their not cops, that guy should be suing them and the cops. Cops are to lazy to do any kind of investigation and just kick in doors from miscellaneous tips. What did they find computers and some weed, tax dollars well spent I'd say.

Did you bother for half a minute to actually read the thread.

Read what BCX has posted just above you:

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The reason the warrant was issued was him using eight times the normal usage of a residence *AND* because he had previous history of operating growing houses.

This isn't a case where some innocent person was raided due to simply using too much electricity. It was that fact combined with his previous criminal history.

Whatever your personal feelings are regarding MJ, growing it in Virginia is still very much illegal.

Mining Bitcoin wasn't the issue, it was the grow operation that got him in trouble.
~BCX~

I really don't understand why the some of the guys here on the forum try to pose always in victims of the system and cry how the government is raping their innocent asses every day.

The guy had a history if growing marijuana , he had drugs in his house , what more do you want.

So if a guy that has a criminal record for car theft has suddenly 10 cars in his yard the cops shouldn't investigate it?

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